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An example of Common Core curriculum that sickens me
Oct 31, 2013 17:56:09   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Ah yes, it is Hallowe'en and time for scary things. This example of a Common Core curriculum tells me that there is very little in too much Common Core learning that is learning and I don't see at all what in this one could help prepare a kid for college.

http://townhall.com/columnists/terrencemoore/2013/10/31/trick-or-treat-the-common-core-is-knocking-at-your-door-n1733700

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Oct 31, 2013 19:31:16   #
snowline
 
oldroy wrote:
Ah yes, it is Hallowe'en and time for scary things. This example of a Common Core curriculum tells me that there is very little in too much Common Core learning that is learning and I don't see at all what in this one could help prepare a kid for college.

http://townhall.com/columnists/terrencemoore/2013/10/31/trick-or-treat-the-common-core-is-knocking-at-your-door-n1733700


Not a thing. The only thing that will prepare a child for what will come his/her way is a concerned adult, regardless of political persuasion. Leave the class room to the teacher or teach them yourself.

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Nov 1, 2013 09:59:12   #
RussD
 
typical right wing hysteria

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Nov 1, 2013 12:54:10   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
RussD wrote:
typical right wing hysteria


Have you checked up on Moore to any extent? I didn't think you had but I did and sure enough he teaches at one of those right leaning schools that has a pretty good record among people of the right. Hell, they even teach the Constitution from the strict constructionist view, there. Maybe you should do some research before you use more of that typical Alinsky method.

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Dec 19, 2013 20:42:50   #
DaTater Loc: Colorado
 
I have many concerns regarding the public education system, and the quality of that education in America. If you don't think it doesn't affect you in your daily life, think again.

Sticking to the Common Core directive, first, I see that the Federal government has to stay out of state and local functions altogether. Education has always been a state function of government, and even then, the states' have a better track record of letting the local school boards run their schools.

Oh, silly me....the teachers' unions have strong-armed their wills to institute their agenda upon the school boards where more money is spent on public education on stupid administrative expenses and less towards their students' educations. This has been happening for decades. That's the $$ aspect; less of school boards' budgets spent on teaching materials, like textbooks, workbooks, chalk, chalkboards (those last two deemed as unhealthful now due to OSHA and the EPA on the Federal level), and the like; more of those budgets are spent toward lawyers, union demands, costs of regulatory inspections besides those of an educational nature.

During these decades of money NOT going to the students' education has resulted in some teachers unable to go back to basic concepts themselves. And I see it snowballing today. There isn't a day that passes where I do NOT come across misspellings and sentence fragments in newspapers, the marquee at the bottom of TV news programs, working documents in my own line of work, and so on. Here's a good challenge: see how many cashiers would be able to make change if that smart grain of sand running that cash register somehow became stupid all of a sudden. Yes, we have a couple of generations suffering from digital dementia. This is just a symptom of union mandated education.

Now the Federal government thinks it can fix the problem. They'll "fix" it alright. Having extorted itself to 45 states in that the Feds will withhold funds to those states who do not adopt this "Common Core" miracle drug, it will as always, force political indoctrination to the young minds in America.

Take a look at the sample workbook lesson for 5th graders, to be published by Pearson. Look particularly at the lesson, "Hold the F**g High," and the last two questions for the Possessive Nouns exercised. The wording has me steamed! :x :!: If that doesn't come off as political indoctrination to you, then you're part of the problem of the government taking over. I hope that is not the case for the mast majority of those reads this.

I see this as just a small taste of what may wind up soiling our kids' minds and eyes. I am afraid there are much, much more of these subtle questions or statements in lessons where they can be sneaked in logically, and in every grade level. Come to think of it, I would h**e to read a high school senior thesis under Common Core. George Orwell himself would have a heart attack if he were alive today.

I do hold out hope, though. There are many parents out there who do not want this Common Core curriculum forced down their kids' throats and they become government programmed robots. This needs to happen at every school board meeting across the land.

5th Grade Common Core Lesson
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Dec 20, 2013 00:45:29   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
DaTater wrote:
I have many concerns regarding the public education system, and the quality of that education in America. If you don't think it doesn't affect you in your daily life, think again.

Sticking to the Common Core directive, first, I see that the Federal government has to stay out of state and local functions altogether. Education has always been a state function of government, and even then, the states' have a better track record of letting the local school boards run their schools.

Oh, silly me....the teachers' unions have strong-armed their wills to institute their agenda upon the school boards where more money is spent on public education on stupid administrative expenses and less towards their students' educations. This has been happening for decades. That's the $$ aspect; less of school boards' budgets spent on teaching materials, like textbooks, workbooks, chalk, chalkboards (those last two deemed as unhealthful now due to OSHA and the EPA on the Federal level), and the like; more of those budgets are spent toward lawyers, union demands, costs of regulatory inspections besides those of an educational nature.

During these decades of money NOT going to the students' education has resulted in some teachers unable to go back to basic concepts themselves. And I see it snowballing today. There isn't a day that passes where I do NOT come across misspellings and sentence fragments in newspapers, the marquee at the bottom of TV news programs, working documents in my own line of work, and so on. Here's a good challenge: see how many cashiers would be able to make change if that smart grain of sand running that cash register somehow became stupid all of a sudden. Yes, we have a couple of generations suffering from digital dementia. This is just a symptom of union mandated education.

Now the Federal government thinks it can fix the problem. They'll "fix" it alright. Having extorted itself to 45 states in that the Feds will withhold funds to those states who do not adopt this "Common Core" miracle drug, it will as always, force political indoctrination to the young minds in America.

Take a look at the sample workbook lesson for 5th graders, to be published by Pearson. Look particularly at the lesson, "Hold the F**g High," and the last two questions for the Possessive Nouns exercised. The wording has me steamed! :x :!: If that doesn't come off as political indoctrination to you, then you're part of the problem of the government taking over. I hope that is not the case for the mast majority of those reads this.

I see this as just a small taste of what may wind up soiling our kids' minds and eyes. I am afraid there are much, much more of these subtle questions or statements in lessons where they can be sneaked in logically, and in every grade level. Come to think of it, I would h**e to read a high school senior thesis under Common Core. George Orwell himself would have a heart attack if he were alive today.

I do hold out hope, though. There are many parents out there who do not want this Common Core curriculum forced down their kids' throats and they become government programmed robots. This needs to happen at every school board meeting across the land.
I have many concerns regarding the public educatio... (show quote)


Since you are new here I must explain to you that I was a high school history and government teacher for 28 years. I was never forced by anybody from Washington, DC to teach anything and I never allowed anyone else other than school board people to tell me what and how I was to teach. It was 27 years ago that I was thrown out of my job for telling the Superintendent how to do his job, he said. I was really happy it happened because it was very soon after that that various silly rules started coming into being. An example would be that I had been a very successful girls track and field coach for over 17 years. In that time I never worried about touching my athletes like had to be done very soon after I got out. I often walked on the track with one of them with my arm around her shoulders talking about her event/s. Never did one of them take affront but today any of them is likely to sue a man for something like that.

In the classroom I didn't worry about touching a kid when he/she asked me a question and I went to answer. Can't do that anymore, either.

There has been a wild change in how and what is taught and if anyone knows it, I am sure one who knows. Common Core is just a part of federal government take over of education for the very reasons you said.

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Dec 20, 2013 18:50:31   #
DaTater Loc: Colorado
 
oldroy wrote:
Since you are new here I must explain to you that I was a high school history and government teacher for 28 years. I was never forced by anybody from Washington, DC to teach anything and I never allowed anyone else other than school board people to tell me what and how I was to teach. It was 27 years ago that I was thrown out of my job for telling the Superintendent how to do his job, he said. I was really happy it happened because it was very soon after that that various silly rules started coming into being. An example would be that I had been a very successful girls track and field coach for over 17 years. In that time I never worried about touching my athletes like had to be done very soon after I got out. I often walked on the track with one of them with my arm around her shoulders talking about her event/s. Never did one of them take affront but today any of them is likely to sue a man for something like that.

In the classroom I didn't worry about touching a kid when he/she asked me a question and I went to answer. Can't do that anymore, either.

There has been a wild change in how and what is taught and if anyone knows it, I am sure one who knows. Common Core is just a part of federal government take over of education for the very reasons you said.
Since you are new here I must explain to you that ... (show quote)


oldroy,

Thanks for your contribution as a teacher, and lucky you, you got to be an actual teacher. Also, thank you for your encouragement you bestowed to me.

I graduated high school in 1977 from a rural school. So yes, I joking admitted to my classmates while earning my recently conferred Bachelor's degree, my word processor then was a manual Royal typewriter, a dictionary, a thesaurus, a Harcourt-Brace writing handbook (6th or 7th edition), lots of correction tape and my brain. Research was put on 3X5 index cards. I actually knew how to use a slide rule and learned it before I was allowed to use my scientific calculator. I went through reams of scratch paper for any given math class, and even for my Calculus I class when I was working on my Associate's degree. I find myself still doing that in my line of work; it scares the younger folks when they see that :lol:.

I admit I was ranting. Having read an article from the Heritage Foundation where a school district in GA, I think, state that the teachers there are to teach the Common Core curricula verbatim. One the other hand, there are far more school districts that, having to swallow the bitter Common Core curriculum, are allowing teachers teach, so long as the standards are met.

From my previous research for my composition class recently, Common Core will result largely in lowering sk**ls by two grade levels, since each student will have to discuss how he or she reached their conclusions to get the correct answers. It will not be enough to say "because it is the way it is and always has been." Wow, that would drive me crazy :!:

Again, thank you for the kudos and agreeing with the main point I was making.

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Dec 20, 2013 22:13:53   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
DaTater wrote:
oldroy,

Thanks for your contribution as a teacher, and lucky you, you got to be an actual teacher. Also, thank you for your encouragement you bestowed to me.

I graduated high school in 1977 from a rural school. So yes, I joking admitted to my classmates while earning my recently conferred Bachelor's degree, my word processor then was a manual Royal typewriter, a dictionary, a thesaurus, a Harcourt-Brace writing handbook (6th or 7th edition), lots of correction tape and my brain. Research was put on 3X5 index cards. I actually knew how to use a slide rule and learned it before I was allowed to use my scientific calculator. I went through reams of scratch paper for any given math class, and even for my Calculus I class when I was working on my Associate's degree. I find myself still doing that in my line of work; it scares the younger folks when they see that :lol:.

I admit I was ranting. Having read an article from the Heritage Foundation where a school district in GA, I think, state that the teachers there are to teach the Common Core curricula verbatim. One the other hand, there are far more school districts that, having to swallow the bitter Common Core curriculum, are allowing teachers teach, so long as the standards are met.

From my previous research for my composition class recently, Common Core will result largely in lowering sk**ls by two grade levels, since each student will have to discuss how he or she reached their conclusions to get the correct answers. It will not be enough to say "because it is the way it is and always has been." Wow, that would drive me crazy :!:

Again, thank you for the kudos and agreeing with the main point I was making.
oldroy, br br Thanks for your contribution as a t... (show quote)


The NEA and the KNEA never offered to help me get my job back when I was thrown out because the Superintendent accused me of trying to tell him how to do his job. Of course, I had quit both of them in 1976 because of their hanky panky with Carter which resulted in the creation of the Department of Education. I demanded my money that was given to him to campaign with and guess there weren't many members who did that. I quit them immediately after I got my $4.65 as my share of the illegal money they gave him. I was a very principled teacher and many of my colleagues didn't like me for that.

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Dec 20, 2013 22:40:16   #
DaTater Loc: Colorado
 
oldroy wrote:
The NEA and the KNEA never offered to help me get my job back when I was thrown out because the Superintendent accused me of trying to tell him how to do his job. Of course, I had quit both of them in 1976 because of their hanky panky with Carter which resulted in the creation of the Department of Education. I demanded my money that was given to him to campaign with and guess there weren't many members who did that. I quit them immediately after I got my $4.65 as my share of the illegal money they gave him. I was a very principled teacher and many of my colleagues didn't like me for that.
The NEA and the KNEA never offered to help me get ... (show quote)


Sadly, it is the principled and the professional in any endeavor that get the raw deals. Seemingly, a lot of people can't handle the t***h.

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