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Apr 14, 2016 23:50:31   #
PeterS
 
You would think an omnipotent god would know what the people he created would do before he created them. After all isn't that what omnipotence means? Of course maybe this god isn't all powerful. Could it be he has his limitations?

I do think this is one of my favorite memes...


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Apr 15, 2016 02:05:21   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
PeterS wrote:
You would think an omnipotent god would know what the people he created would do before he created them. After all isn't that what omnipotence means? Of course maybe this god isn't all powerful. Could it be he has his limitations?

I do think this is one of my favorite memes...



The only way He could have avoided it would be to create a bunch of obedient robots. Free will has it's price. God did not make anyone reject Him. They did so because of their free choice. It's their fault. Not God's. Your argument is no different than claiming that no one should have children because they will misbehave, and eventually die. Why would someone have a kid if they knew it was gonna die? Same argument.

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Apr 15, 2016 04:39:09   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
PeterS wrote:
You would think an omnipotent god would know what the people he created would do before he created them. After all isn't that what omnipotence means? Of course maybe this god isn't all powerful. Could it be he has his limitations?

I do think this is one of my favorite memes...



He must have limitations he created you.

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Apr 15, 2016 08:06:08   #
Workinman Loc: Bayou Pigeon
 
PeterS wrote:
You would think an omnipotent god would know what the people he created would do before he created them. After all isn't that what omnipotence means? Of course maybe this god isn't all powerful. Could it be he has his limitations?

I do think this is one of my favorite memes...





This explains you and your non-belief...seems it's becoming more true with every post you and ilk post...

2 Timothy 3:1-5English Standard Version (ESV)

Godlessness in the Last Days

3 But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. 2 For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, 4 treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.

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May 8, 2016 13:25:55   #
PeterS
 
Little Ball of H**e wrote:
The only way He could have avoided it would be to create a bunch of obedient robots. Free will has it's price. God did not make anyone reject Him. They did so because of their free choice. It's their fault. Not God's. Your argument is no different than claiming that no one should have children because they will misbehave, and eventually die. Why would someone have a kid if they knew it was gonna die? Same argument.


What difference does freewill make when god knows how it was going to end before he even let it begin? And no, this isn't about death because based on the bible we all have eternal life only destined for different places. If I knew I was going to have a child that was destined to hell I wouldn't have him--it wouldn't be fair to him nor those he t***sgressed against. Would you have a child if you knew he was going to burn in hell forever and ever? Why???

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May 8, 2016 13:37:06   #
PeterS
 
Workinman wrote:
This explains you and your non-belief...seems it's becoming more true with every post you and ilk post...

2 Timothy 3:1-5English Standard Version (ESV)

Godlessness in the Last Days

3 But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. 2 For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, 4 treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.
This explains you and your non-belief...seems it's... (show quote)
How does that explain anything? The premise of this thread is omnipotence and gods ability to know the end before it begins. And the above describes Donald Trump beautifully and conservatives love him so exactly what problem do you see? Hell, Trump has openly sinned by committing adultery plus has a daughter out of wedlock and he says that he's never done anything that he needs to ask forgiveness from god for. Hell, if I believed in god I would at least admit my t***sgressions, so as long as you people worship at the feet of a maggot like Trump you hardly have anything to complain about do you!

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May 8, 2016 16:33:17   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
PeterS wrote:
How does that explain anything? The premise of this thread is omnipotence and gods ability to know the end before it begins. And the above describes Donald Trump beautifully and conservatives love him so exactly what problem do you see? Hell, Trump has openly sinned by committing adultery plus has a daughter out of wedlock and he says that he's never done anything that he needs to ask forgiveness from god for. Hell, if I believed in god I would at least admit my t***sgressions, so as long as you people worship at the feet of a maggot like Trump you hardly have anything to complain about do you!
How does that explain anything? The premise of thi... (show quote)


I never said I liked Trump. He is the lesser of two evils. And why does it matter that God knows the future? It still comes down to a matter of choice. YOU chose to reject God. And I would say that you DO believe in God. Otherwise, you wouldn't be making a big stink about it.

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