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Feb 15, 2016 12:36:41   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
They come to my town I can almost guarantee they will leave on out bound train.
Onelostdog wrote:
I wonder where I may get a ticket for that train ride living in a small rural town and all or I guess I can have patience and just wait for the ride to come to me. All I ask for is a window seat with a great view.

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Feb 15, 2016 12:46:39   #
Onelostdog Loc: Restless Oregon
 
jimahrens wrote:
They come to my town I can almost guarantee they will leave on out bound train.


As one great military man once said this and I find his words is something I stand behind 150%.
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Feb 15, 2016 12:53:04   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
I would ask those who try to control the world. What pleasure will you have in a pile of ashes???? Your greed and struggle for power will be the very rope that hangs you.
Onelostdog wrote:
As one great military man once said this and I find his words is something I stand behind 150%.

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Feb 15, 2016 13:06:58   #
Onelostdog Loc: Restless Oregon
 
jimahrens wrote:
I would ask those who try to control the world. What pleasure will you have in a pile of ashes???? Your greed and struggle for power will be the very rope that hangs you.


I find it humorous that the very liberal left who want so badly to take the country down are the very ones who could not survive after the defeat and just how stupid a liberal progressive commie is when they do not have the mental power to comprehend they are instigators of their own demise. That is the meaning of true idiots and insanity.

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Feb 15, 2016 13:22:11   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Onelostdog wrote:
I find it humorous that the very liberal left who want so badly to take the country down are the very ones who could not survive after the defeat and just how stupid a liberal progressive commie is when they do not have the mental power to comprehend they are instigators of their own demise. That is the meaning of true idiots and insanity.


2 Cor. 4:3-4 - but if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Hosea 4:6 – My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge?
A Proverb – Where there is no vision, the people perish.

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Feb 15, 2016 14:11:29   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
It boggles the mind History has proved it time and time again. Liberal are anchors on the ass of society.
Onelostdog wrote:
I find it humorous that the very liberal left who want so badly to take the country down are the very ones who could not survive after the defeat and just how stupid a liberal progressive commie is when they do not have the mental power to comprehend they are instigators of their own demise. That is the meaning of true idiots and insanity.

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Feb 15, 2016 14:17:12   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
jimahrens wrote:
It boggles the mind History has proved it time and time again. Liberal are anchors on the ass of society.


If we run out of bread; they are expecting to eat cake.

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Feb 16, 2016 08:29:34   #
Mom8052 Loc: Lost in the mountains of New Mexico
 
Onelostdog wrote:
I wonder where I may get a ticket for that train ride living in a small rural town and all or I guess I can have patience and just wait for the ride to come to me. All I ask for is a window seat with a great view.

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Me thinks it won't be pretty, if things keep going as they are going. Our FREEDOMS will have already up & went.!
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Feb 16, 2016 08:30:14   #
Mom8052 Loc: Lost in the mountains of New Mexico
 
Onelostdog wrote:
I find it humorous that the very liberal left who want so badly to take the country down are the very ones who could not survive after the defeat and just how stupid a liberal progressive commie is when they do not have the mental power to comprehend they are instigators of their own demise. That is the meaning of true idiots and insanity.


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Feb 16, 2016 10:55:21   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Mom8052 wrote:
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Me thinks it won't be pretty, if things keep going as they are going. Our FREEDOMS will have already up & went.!
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This hasn't happened suddenly:

Behind Communism : Frank L Britton : Free Download & Streaming ...
http://archive.org/details/BehindCommunism
by Frank L Britton. Probably published in 1952.

(down loaded from the internet)

When Behind Communism was first published, the official position of the U.S.S.R. was that Lenin was a Slavic Russian, not a Jew. However, subsequent to the book's publication, following the fall of the Iron Curtain in the mid- 80's, it was finally admitted that, indeed, the monstrous criminal, Vladimir Lenin, was a Jew!

THE PERSECUTION MYTH
With Shrill Insistence
We cannot undertake even this brief history of the modern Jew without taking note of a phenomenon which has confounded gentile societies for twenty centuries. This is the ability of the Jewish people
to collectively retain their identity despite centuries of exposure to Christian civilization. To any student of Judaism, or to the Jews themselves, this phenomenon is partly explained by the fact that Judaism is neither mainly a religion, nor mainly a racial matter, nor yet is it simply a matter of nationality. Rather it is all three; it is a kind of trinity. Judaism is best described as a nationality built on the twin pillars of race and religion.
All this is closely related to another aspect of Judaism, namely, the persecution myth. Since first appearing in history we find the Jews propagating the idea that they are an abused and persecuted people, and this idea is, and has always been, central in Jewish thinking. The myth of persecution is the adhesive and cement of Judaism; without it Jews would have long since ceased to exist, their racial-religious nationality notwithstanding. Jews do not always agree among themselves, and it is only in the presence of their enemies—real or imagined—that Jewish thinking crystalizes into unanimity. In this respect they differ not at all from other peoples: Adolph Hitler solidified German opinion around the idea that Germany was wronged at Versailles, that the German people
were abused and victimized by the Allies, and that only by holding together could they prevail against the overwhelming might of their enemies ...
For twenty-five centuries the Jewish mind has been conditioned by the same appeal. Through all Jewish thinking and all Jewish history the refrain of persecution has sounded with shrill insistence. Thus we find every accident of fortune being chronicled, enhanced, and passed on to succeeding generations as another example of gentile cruelty to the chosen race. And almost inevitably we find opposition to Jewish aspirations and ambitions being translated into these same terms of persecution, and all Jewish shortcomings being excused on the same basis.
Now it is a fact that the Jewish people have suffered numerous hardships in the course of their history, but this is true of other peoples too. The chief difference is that the Jews have kept score — they have made a tradition of persecution. A casual slaughter of Christians
is remembered by no one in 50 years, but a disability visited upon a
few Jews is preserved forever in Jewish histories. And they tell their
woes not only to themselves, but to a sympathetic world as well . . .
Throughout the Medieval period*, which lasted from 500 A.D. to 1300 A.D., the Jew merchant was dominant all over Europe (except Scandanavia, where he was never permitted to enter) and this dominance included control over the eastern trade routes to the Levant.
There was to be no relief from this situation until the Jews were evicted from Europe in the century directly preceding the Renaissance. In 1215 the Catholic Church, at the Fourth Lateren Council, broke the back of European Jewry with a set of restrictions designed to curb their commercial monopoly. These decrees restricted Jews to residence in their own communities, prohibited absolutely their hiring of Christian employees and prohibited them from engaging in many types of commercial activity.
Expelled
The Fourth Lateren Council restricted Jewish commercial advantage but it did not end the Jewish problem. Beginning in the latter part of the 13th century, one European country after another expelled it's NOTE: Encyclopedia Britannica is used as a reference source because of its ready availability
to the average reader. It is not an "anti-Semitic" publication. In fact, the Encyclopedia Britannica Corporation was purchased by the Julius Rosenwald interests in 1920, and since then all material pertaining to the Jewish question has been re-written to conform to the Jewish outlook.
The FUNK & WAGNALL JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA (see preceding page) is uniformly
referred to throughout this work as the "Jewish Encyclopedia." Consisting of 12 volumes, it is
available in all major libraries. It should not be confused with the 10 volume "Universal Jewish Encyclopedia," published by Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, Inc., New York, 1939.
Both, however, are authoritative Jewish publications, compiled by and for Jews.

Jewish population as the only final solution to the problem. First to take the step was England which banned them in 1290. Fifteen yeas later, in 1306, the French followed suit. In steady succession the various States of Europe emulated this example with Spain being one of the
last to enforce the ban in 1492. The situation in Spain is worth noting Says Encyclopedia Britannica1: ". . . The 14th century was the golden age of their history in Spain. In 1391 the preaching of a priest of
Seville, Fernando Martenez, led to the first general massacre of the Jews who were envied for their prosperity and hated because they were the king's tax collectors." Ferdinand and Isabella, after uniting Spain and driving out the Moors, turned their attention to the Jewish problem, with the result that they were evicted completely in 1492. In 1498 Portugal evicted its Jewish population also.
The Exploiters
A great deal has been said about the "persecution" of the Jews in Europe and elsewhere, and they have pretty well convinced the world (or at least Americans) that these hardships were inflicted on
an innocent people. But these rich Spanish Jews we see being evicted in 1492 were not down-trodden folk. They were the wealthy, the privileged the exploiters: they were the well-fed merchants and the gouging tax collectors . . .


So it was in Portugal; in that country we find that the deportation
of the Jews . . . "deprived Portugal of its middle class and its most
scientific traders and financiers." "' Undeniably this class of traders and
financiers was put to hardship by this banishment, but it does not follow
that they were victims of discrimination in the accepted sense, nor
were they underprivileged in any way. Rather we see a wealthy merchant
group being ousted from its seat of vested privilege by a thoroughly
outraged, and a thoroughly exploited Christian society . . .
The situation in England was similar. The Jews had come to England
in the wake of the Norman conquest and had quickly gained a position
of wealth and prosperity. Says Valentine's Jewish Encyclopedia
of this period*: "Their numbers and prosperity increased, Aaron of
Lincoln being the wealthiest man in England in his time ... his financial
transactions covering the whole country and concerning many of the
leading nobles and churchmen . . . On his death his property passed to
the crown and a special branch of the exchequer had to be created to
deal with it."

England
E n g l a n d , ironically enough, was the last country to be invaded by the Jews and the first toevict them. After the Fourth Lateren Council the Jews had become increasingly difficult to deal with and there were a number of anti-Jewish
riots. Perplexed by the problem posed by this alien minority which seemed well on its way to corralling the kingdom's wealth, and failing its assimilation, Edward I confiscated all Jewish wealth and evicted them permanently in 1290.Not until 1655 was a Jew legally permitted to re-enter England. Britain thus established the precedent for the later eviction which soon followed on the continent.
France
In France too the Jews were dominant in trade and finance and had been since before Charlemagne's time. Under Philip the Fair (1285-1314) one of the last, and certainly one of the greatest of the Capetian line, France had become the greatest power in Europe. It was Philip's need for money which led him to seize Jewish wealth and drive them from the country. He had already before 1306 taken desperate measures to raise money, which was in short supply, by forbidding the
export of gold and silver from France. The same need for money brought him into conflict with the Templars, whose wealth he also seized. But it was the Jews who controlled the greatest supply of floating wealth. In 1306 Philip solved his financial problem — and France's Jewish problem—by expropriating their wealth and evicting them. Thus ended the centuries-long commercial dominance of the Jew in France. Later a few were permitted to return and these were in turn
ejected in 1394.Home of Aaron of Lincoln, dating from the 13thcentury. In his day, Aaron was richer than any prince or nobleman in England. Edward I, conqueror of Wales and one of England's great monarchs, evicted the Jews because they were monopolizing England's wealth.
RETURN TO THE EAST
The Evictions
Space does not permit a detailed discussion of the other evictions which followed, and which resulted in the banishment of the Jews from virtually every country in Western Europe in the succeeding centuries, but here in chronological order is a list of the evictions:
ENGLAND: Jews expelled in 1290 by Edward I. Not permitted to
re-enter till 1655.FRANCE: Expelled in 1306 by Philip the Fair. A few were permitted to return, but were again evicted in 1394. Jewish settlements remained in Bordeaux, Avignon, Marseilles, (from where they were evicted in 1682) and in the northern province of Alsace.
SAXONY: Expelled in 1349.HUNGARY: By 1092 the Jews were in control of Hungary's tax
collections. In 1360 they were expelled but later returned. In 1582they were again expelled from the Christian part of Hungary.
BELGIUM: Expelled in 1370. A few settled there again in 1450, but no large numbers came till 1700.SLOVAKIA: Ousted from Prague in 1380. Many settled thereagain after 1562. In 1744 Marie Theresa expelled them again.
AUSTRIA: Expelled in 1420 by Albrecht V.
NETHERLANDS: Expelled from Utrecht in 1444.
SPAIN: Expelled in 1492.
LITHUANIA: Expelled in 1495 by Grand Duke Alexander. Theylater returned.
PORTUGAL: Expelled in 1498.
PRUSSIA: Expelled in 1510.
ITALY: Expelled from Kingdom of Naples and Sardinia in 1540.
BAVARIA: Banned permanently in 1551.
Jews were not permitted to enter Sweden until 1782. None were
permitted to enter Denmark before the 17th-century and they were not
allowed in Norway after 1814. Today only a handful reside in all
Scandinavia.
Back to Poland
By 1500 all of Western Europe except northern Italy, parts of
Germany, and the Papal possessions around Avignon, had been rid of the Jewish invasion. For a while, at least, Europe was free of the Jews; not until 1650 did they return in any numbers. Says Encyclopedia Britannica: "The great mass of the Jewish people were thus to be….

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Feb 16, 2016 11:17:13   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
Onelostdog wrote:
Received this from a friend this morning and though it worth passing on. So much truth it is sickening what this latest form of government is doing to the country not to mention a lot of the country's liberal communist and islam loving peoples.

"All of a Sudden----MUSLIMS ARE TRYING TO CONQUER AMERICA

Wake up America, the hour is very late, Look at the kings action, not his words……

"All of a Sudden

Before Obama there was virtually no outlandish presence of Islam in America.

• All of a sudden, Islam is taught in schools. Christianity and the bible are banned in schools.

• All of a sudden we must allow prayer rugs everywhere and allow for Islamic prayer in schools,airports and businesses.

• All of a sudden we must stop serving pork in prisons.

• All of a sudden we are inundated with law suits by Muslims who are offended by American culture.

• All of a sudden we must allow burkas to be worn everywhere even though you have no idea who is covered up under them.

• All of a sudden Muslims are suing employers and refusing to do their jobs if they personally deem it conflicts with Sharia Law.

• All of a sudden Muslim training compounds are popping up throughout the USA.

• All of a sudden the Attorney General of the United States vows to prosecute anyone who engages in “anti-Muslim speech”.

• All of a sudden, Jihadists who engage in terrorism and openly admit they acted in the name of Islam and ISIS, are emphatically declared they are NOT Islamic by our leaders and/or their actions are determined NOT to be terrorism, but other nebulous terms like ‘workplace violence’.

• All of a sudden, White Men are declared to be the greatest terror threat to the country by our leaders, even while ISIS and Al Qaeda promise attacks inside the USA.

• All of a sudden, it becomes Policy that Secular Middle East dictators that were benign or friendly to the West, must be replaced by Islamists and the Muslim Brotherhood.

• All of a sudden our troops are withdrawn from Iraq and the middle east, giving rise to ISIS.

• All of a sudden, America has reduced it’s nuclear stockpiles to 1950 levels, as Obama’s stated goal of a nuke-free America by the time he leaves office continues uninterrupted.

• All of a sudden, a deal with Iran must be made at any cost, with a pathway to nuclear weapons and HUNDREDS of BILLIONS of dollars handed over to fund their programs.

• All of a sudden America APOLOGIZES to Muslim states and sponsors of terror worldwide for acts of aggression, war and sabotage THEY perpetrate against our soldiers.

• All of a sudden, the American Navy is diminished to 1917 pre-World War I levels of only 300 ships. The Army is at pre-1940 levels. The Air Force scraps 500 planes and planned to retire the use of the A-10 Thunderbolt close air support fighter. A further draw down of another 40,000 military personnel is in progress.

• All of a sudden half of our aircraft carriers are recalled for maintenance by Obama rendering the Atlantic unguarded, NONE are in the Middle East.

• All of a sudden Obama has to empty Guantanamo Bay of captured Jihadists and let them loose in Jihad-friendly Islamic states. He demands to close the facility.

• All of a sudden America will negotiate with terrorists and trade FIVE Taliban commanders for a deserter and Jihad sympathizer.

• All of a sudden there is no money for American poor, disabled veterans, jobless Americans, hungry Americans, or displaced Americans but there is endless money for Obama’s “Syrian refugee” resettlement programs.

• All of a sudden Obama fills the Federal Government with Muslims in key positions.

• All of sudden there is an ammunition shortage in the USA.

• All of a sudden, the most important thing for Obama to do after a mass shooting by two Jihadists, is disarm American Citizens.

Given all of the above, ask yourself this question; why is it suddenly so important for Obama to disarm Americans? Especially in the aftermath of the San Bernardino Jihad attack?

My answer: Because a disarmed country is ripe for takeover by the Muslim Army that Obama is importing into the United States.

Remember this?

Perhaps the ‘civilians’ he was referencing in his mind, are the millions he has imported into this country? Sharia Law requires Muslims ‘police themselves’ and enact laws that punish anyone who ‘slanders Islam’. Recall that AG Loretta Lynch has stated to make it a FEDERAL CRIME and prosecute anyone who engages in anti-Muslim speech. That is the imposition of defacto Sharia Law, no matter how they attempt to spin it.

Obama can’t do these things legally, so he issues decrees he deems ‘legal’ and empowers his Alphabet agencies to carry out his orders. Diminishing guns in the hands of American citizens is one way America can be subjugated to Islam.

By his fruits you will know him. Obama’s actions speak far beyond his words.

Obama won’t even say the words “Islamic Terrorist”

Does anyone bother to ask WHY?

WHY do we turn a blind eye to the fact that we have an Islamist sympathizer and traitor as leader?
Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow.
The important thing is not to stop questioning. -Albert Einstein
Received this from a friend this morning and thoug... (show quote)


That was the best stated opinion about the sad state of affairs in this country! Bravo!! I believe that all of the above is correct and straight to the point.
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Feb 16, 2016 11:20:05   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
lindajoy wrote:
His own brother who he claims no affiliation to is an active member of the brotherhood...

Look at his chosen muslims he's place into Capital hill..

Give me a break!!


We should all look at the tapestry, behind Obama, when he speaks. I believe that is an indication of his faith.

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Feb 16, 2016 11:23:28   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
jimahrens wrote:
It's not why or how he was elected .The real issue is? Why has he not been impeached.


He has not been impeach because the Democrats would not allow it. Right now it would be an lesson in futility.

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Feb 16, 2016 11:29:50   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
Think this is bad imagine him as a Supreme Court Justice.
Louie27 wrote:
He has not been impeach because the Democrats would not allow it. Right now it would be an lesson in futility.

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Feb 16, 2016 11:49:44   #
jeff smith
 
Onelostdog wrote:
Received this from a friend this morning and though it worth passing on. So much truth it is sickening what this latest form of government is doing to the country not to mention a lot of the country's liberal communist and islam loving peoples.

"All of a Sudden----MUSLIMS ARE TRYING TO CONQUER AMERICA

Wake up America, the hour is very late, Look at the kings action, not his words……

"All of a Sudden

Before Obama there was virtually no outlandish presence of Islam in America.

• All of a sudden, Islam is taught in schools. Christianity and the bible are banned in schools.

• All of a sudden we must allow prayer rugs everywhere and allow for Islamic prayer in schools,airports and businesses.

• All of a sudden we must stop serving pork in prisons.

• All of a sudden we are inundated with law suits by Muslims who are offended by American culture.

• All of a sudden we must allow burkas to be worn everywhere even though you have no idea who is covered up under them.

• All of a sudden Muslims are suing employers and refusing to do their jobs if they personally deem it conflicts with Sharia Law.

• All of a sudden Muslim training compounds are popping up throughout the USA.

• All of a sudden the Attorney General of the United States vows to prosecute anyone who engages in “anti-Muslim speech”.

• All of a sudden, Jihadists who engage in terrorism and openly admit they acted in the name of Islam and ISIS, are emphatically declared they are NOT Islamic by our leaders and/or their actions are determined NOT to be terrorism, but other nebulous terms like ‘workplace violence’.

• All of a sudden, White Men are declared to be the greatest terror threat to the country by our leaders, even while ISIS and Al Qaeda promise attacks inside the USA.

• All of a sudden, it becomes Policy that Secular Middle East dictators that were benign or friendly to the West, must be replaced by Islamists and the Muslim Brotherhood.

• All of a sudden our troops are withdrawn from Iraq and the middle east, giving rise to ISIS.

• All of a sudden, America has reduced it’s nuclear stockpiles to 1950 levels, as Obama’s stated goal of a nuke-free America by the time he leaves office continues uninterrupted.

• All of a sudden, a deal with Iran must be made at any cost, with a pathway to nuclear weapons and HUNDREDS of BILLIONS of dollars handed over to fund their programs.

• All of a sudden America APOLOGIZES to Muslim states and sponsors of terror worldwide for acts of aggression, war and sabotage THEY perpetrate against our soldiers.

• All of a sudden, the American Navy is diminished to 1917 pre-World War I levels of only 300 ships. The Army is at pre-1940 levels. The Air Force scraps 500 planes and planned to retire the use of the A-10 Thunderbolt close air support fighter. A further draw down of another 40,000 military personnel is in progress.

• All of a sudden half of our aircraft carriers are recalled for maintenance by Obama rendering the Atlantic unguarded, NONE are in the Middle East.

• All of a sudden Obama has to empty Guantanamo Bay of captured Jihadists and let them loose in Jihad-friendly Islamic states. He demands to close the facility.

• All of a sudden America will negotiate with terrorists and trade FIVE Taliban commanders for a deserter and Jihad sympathizer.

• All of a sudden there is no money for American poor, disabled veterans, jobless Americans, hungry Americans, or displaced Americans but there is endless money for Obama’s “Syrian refugee” resettlement programs.

• All of a sudden Obama fills the Federal Government with Muslims in key positions.

• All of sudden there is an ammunition shortage in the USA.

• All of a sudden, the most important thing for Obama to do after a mass shooting by two Jihadists, is disarm American Citizens.

Given all of the above, ask yourself this question; why is it suddenly so important for Obama to disarm Americans? Especially in the aftermath of the San Bernardino Jihad attack?

My answer: Because a disarmed country is ripe for takeover by the Muslim Army that Obama is importing into the United States.

Remember this?

Perhaps the ‘civilians’ he was referencing in his mind, are the millions he has imported into this country? Sharia Law requires Muslims ‘police themselves’ and enact laws that punish anyone who ‘slanders Islam’. Recall that AG Loretta Lynch has stated to make it a FEDERAL CRIME and prosecute anyone who engages in anti-Muslim speech. That is the imposition of defacto Sharia Law, no matter how they attempt to spin it.

Obama can’t do these things legally, so he issues decrees he deems ‘legal’ and empowers his Alphabet agencies to carry out his orders. Diminishing guns in the hands of American citizens is one way America can be subjugated to Islam.

By his fruits you will know him. Obama’s actions speak far beyond his words.

Obama won’t even say the words “Islamic Terrorist”

Does anyone bother to ask WHY?

WHY do we turn a blind eye to the fact that we have an Islamist sympathizer and traitor as leader?
Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow.
The important thing is not to stop questioning. -Albert Einstein
Received this from a friend this morning and thoug... (show quote)


islam is a religion of peace. when and only when ALL other religions are a faint memory! islam was and always will be based on terrorisum. it all started with mohamid, whos nick name should of been mo-hammer-head, his way to bring about islam was to pretend to have a vision from a messenger of God, and tell the people living in the area that this is the way we are to live. if you wont do things the way I say then you will die! after killing enough people the others started to pretend to believe him. after so many generations they just believe it to be true. now they want to take over the entire world to be like them. to bad their doing a "Savoy Brown" riding that "Hell Bound Train" all because many years ago some little nobody wanted Control, had a major Brain fart to be a tyrant and have things his way. sorry there muslims you read and are suppose to memorize your Qu ran, yet you don't want to believe the prophets. they told us about Christ and what would happen to Him, many, many years before He came. but you want to deny Him. you know where that leaves you. is that why you all seem so sad, and, down and out, all the time? what sacrafices do you make? other than killing non muslims! when you can. you say you believe in the Law handed down from God to Moses and the prophets. yet do you obey them? not that I am aware of. so how can you be saved, even by your own religiosity. You have NOTHING coming but DAMNATION! just like every human we are all worthy of condemnation, for we ALL live in sin! from taking a pen from work and leaving it at home, stealing, or all the way to murder or the worst, Blasphemy. this is why Christ, died on the cross. Why hath thou forsaceth me? God can NOT except sin into His Kingdom, so for that moment of time Christ was rejected as sin. It is finished, Christ gave up his spirit condemned with the sins of every one through out time, brought them to the gates or the thrown of Hell and left them there the ascended back to leave the tomb to appear to the desiples and hundreds more before ascending into the Heavens to be seated at the right hand of God almighty, Christ was the final sacrifice to wash away all sins and to redeem us to the Father of creation! read and learn

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