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Oct 12, 2013 23:32:22   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Yes, in this letter to President Obama (boy that hurt to type) Jim DeMint says all the things I have been thinking about what is going on in DC these days. I am sure that the letter will tell el Presidente something but not sure what.

http://blog.heritage.org/2013/10/10/jim-demint-letter-to-president-obama-about-obamacare/?utm_source=heritagefoundation&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=&utm_content=&utm_source=heritagefoundation&utm_medium=email&utm_content=headline&utm_campaign=saturday131012

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Oct 13, 2013 00:26:16   #
Quizzal Loc: TN
 
This letter only informs about a few cases (I understand that all of them cannot be listed). But, wouldn't it be nice if every single case in the US could be listed and sent to Obama?

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Oct 13, 2013 00:29:03   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Quizzal wrote:
This letter only informs about a few cases (I understand that all of them cannot be listed). But, wouldn't it be nice if every single case in the US could be listed and sent to Obama?


I don't think that list would fit in any doors of the White House. It is a huge number, much huger than the number of people who have tried to sign up for Obamacare.

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Oct 13, 2013 00:29:50   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Now isn't ObamaCare just wonderful as it takes healthcare out of the average workers hands and gives it to the so called needy who pay zero in taxes.



oldroy wrote:
Yes, in this letter to President Obama (boy that hurt to type) Jim DeMint says all the things I have been thinking about what is going on in DC these days. I am sure that the letter will tell el Presidente something but not sure what.

http://blog.heritage.org/2013/10/10/jim-demint-letter-to-president-obama-about-obamacare/?utm_source=heritagefoundation&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=&utm_content=&utm_source=heritagefoundation&utm_medium=email&utm_content=headline&utm_campaign=saturday131012
Yes, in this letter to President Obama (boy that h... (show quote)

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Oct 13, 2013 00:41:18   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
bmac32 wrote:
Now isn't ObamaCare just wonderful as it takes healthcare out of the average workers hands and gives it to the so called needy who pay zero in taxes.


There is a thought I have had for a long time now. Thanks for putting it down.

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Oct 13, 2013 00:47:57   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
All it is is a power grab, oh look Obama gave up phones and health insurance. He gives them food stamps, he gives then housing, vouchers for electric and all at tax parers expense.


oldroy wrote:
There is a thought I have had for a long time now. Thanks for putting it down.

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Oct 13, 2013 01:33:08   #
Quizzal Loc: TN
 
The i******s get everything handed to them. Common US workers and retiree gets everything taken away.

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Oct 13, 2013 02:23:50   #
eden
 
Sorry guys, an untidy little t***h. The so called "I******s"only come here because someone fed them with work in the past and they know, KNOW

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Oct 13, 2013 02:27:04   #
eden
 
that americans are unwilling to do the work they are willing to do.
There will not be a resolution to this dichotomy until some sort of Guest Worker Program is introduced as part of a comprehensive Immigration Reform bill.

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Oct 13, 2013 03:22:31   #
theshortone
 
oldroy wrote:
Yes, in this letter to President Obama (boy that hurt to type) Jim DeMint says all the things I have been thinking about what is going on in DC these days. I am sure that the letter will tell el Presidente something but not sure what.

http://blog.heritage.org/2013/10/10/jim-demint-letter-to-president-obama-about-obamacare/?utm_source=heritagefoundation&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=&utm_content=&utm_source=heritagefoundation&utm_medium=email&utm_content=headline&utm_campaign=saturday131012
Yes, in this letter to President Obama (boy that h... (show quote)


Here is another tidbit of info. We may have been warned a long time ago, but did not listen.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P3hY1eagq88

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Oct 13, 2013 06:12:36   #
dhelix33
 
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Oct 13, 2013 06:48:47   #
Peggy Kirk
 
oldroy wrote:
Yes, in this letter to President Obama (boy that hurt to type) Jim DeMint says all the things I have been thinking about what is going on in DC these days. I am sure that the letter will tell el Presidente something but not sure what.

http://blog.heritage.org/2013/10/10/jim-demint-letter-to-president-obama-about-obamacare/?utm_source=heritagefoundation&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=&utm_content=&utm_source=heritagefoundation&utm_medium=email&utm_content=headline&utm_campaign=saturday131012
Yes, in this letter to President Obama (boy that h... (show quote)


My company in Iowa is switching to Blue Cross/Blue Shield but the Iowa Exchange says it will not allow BCBS. What's that? Also, I am wondering, if anyone knows, if the businesses can wait one year, will the employees be taxed or fined for not carrying a qualifying insurance? Do you have to drop a company unqualified insurance and pick up a private qualified one until your company does adhere?

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Oct 13, 2013 07:12:01   #
1OldGeezer
 
eden wrote:
that americans are unwilling to do the work they are willing to do.
There will not be a resolution to this dichotomy until some sort of Guest Worker Program is introduced as part of a comprehensive Immigration Reform bill.


Eden, you may be partially right in your assertion about past immigration, legal immigrants did come here to work at jobs where the companies/farms couldn't find enough American workers. This started when there was essentially low American unemployment and the program has continued to this day, very poorly administered by the government.
When you mix the I*****L i*******ts into this discussion a
different situation is the result. The I*****l w****rs are often abused by the companies under the ever present threat of exposure if they ask for reasonable treatment/wages/living conditions. "We" are abusing these people.
The other part of your comment stated that this had to be part of a "comprehensive" bill, that is the part that I would disagree with.
Now, consider this, we need to enforce/administer the provisions of the existing laws regarding these LEGAL workers when a legitimate need for workers is proven by the individual companies and simultaneously enforce our other i*********n l*ws regarding Illegal "visitors" who come here to stay. We don't really need additional laws to reward these i*****l i*******ts with amnesty/a jump ahead of the persons who have applied to legally come to this country.
I would solve it this way,
1. Implement/enforce the E-verify system (fine companies who don't comply in the effort to identify the i*****l w****rs.) (If persons contemplating coming here illegally understood that they could not get a job because of E-verify use, this would very significantly cut down on the illegal border crossings, maybe even make the fences much less important).
2. The persons identified by this system, if they are working (which is likely because an employer identified them) then give them a work permit visa, (make them legal so the employer has no unreasonable hold on them and overall wages might come up and the jobs become more attractive to American workers just entering the work force).
3. Then allow them, if they wish, to apply for permanent status by using the existing i*********n l*ws; Thus, to be fair, they would have to get in line with the law abiding persons who chose to apply for citizenship before coming here.
We really don't need additional "comprehensive" laws which punish the law abiding immigrants, will simply encourage new waves of i*****l i*********n, and do not solve the basic problems of i*****l i*********n.
"Comprehensive" has simply become a political code word for amnesty for future v**ers.
1oldgeezer

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Oct 13, 2013 07:24:01   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
Quizzal wrote:
This letter only informs about a few cases (I understand that all of them cannot be listed). But, wouldn't it be nice if every single case in the US could be listed and sent to Obama?




Obama would not read the list. Even if he did he would not care at all about the people he is harming. He cares about hinself, wholly and completely.

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Oct 13, 2013 07:32:21   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
eden wrote:
that americans are unwilling to do the work they are willing to do.
There will not be a resolution to this dichotomy until some sort of Guest Worker Program is introduced as part of a comprehensive Immigration Reform bill.





Americans who receive food stamps, welfare, ADC, WIC, Unemployment, Obama phones, Housing subsidies, medicaid, some income from drug dealing and thievery are not so stupid as to give all that up for a job that actually requires work.

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