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Oct 10, 2013 11:44:15   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
I am doing something I don't often do and that is to quote a request by a very right leaning blog for support. None of this is anything I don't believe in but is worded better than I could do it.

We get these actions from a White House that claims it will never negotiate if any of the debate is about Obamascare. We have even heard that the NPS people have been told to make these actions hurt as bad as possible. I guess most people don't know that the federal government owns about 30% of the land in the nation. Yep, they have been gobbling it up lately and now we can see why.



Do It My Way Or I'll Show You Who's The Boss.

It's both ironic and pathetic that Barack Obama is calling patriotic Americans like you and me "extortionists," "anarchists," and "arsonists" when any reasonable person can clearly see that the only person who is behaving like an extortionist is Barack Obama.

In recent days, the Obama Regime has:

Closed open-air monuments, memorials and parks to veterans and patriotic Americans, but then opened the National Mall (which was supposedly closed) to i*****l a***ns to stage a massive Amnesty rally.

Thrown tax-paying Americans out of their privately owned homes because those homes apparently stood on government land. Nevada CBS affiliate KTNV reported: "Joyce Spencer is 77-years-old and her husband Ralph is 80. ... The Spencers never expected to be forced out of their Lake Mead home, which they've owned since the 70s, but on Thursday, a park ranger said they had 24 hours to get out."

Informed civilian chaplains that they could face prison if they dared to celebrate Mass on military installations during this phantom shutdown. According to John Schlageter, the General Counsel for the Archdiocese of Military Services, civilian chaplains were informed that "During the shutdown, it is illegal for them to minister on base and they risk being arrested if they attempt to do so." What's next? Will doctors face jail time for rendering services that are not approved under ObamaCare?

Ordered the National Park Service to close privately run marinas, restaurants and inns throughout the country that are on government land. In some cases, the National Park service was ordered to post guards to keep people from using these privately owned establishments during the government shutdown. By the way, the federal government owns about 30 percent of the total land-mass of the United States.

Closed the Atlantic Ocean. You read that right. In what can only be described as dictatorial and delusional hubris, Barack Obama's National Park Service informed charter boat captains in Florida, who must have access to the ocean to make a living, that the Florida Bay was closed due to the shutdown, and that closure of public beaches was just one of many examples.

It's time for our elected officials to answer a very important question: Do we live in the United States of America or the once defunct Soviet Union?

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Oct 10, 2013 13:00:14   #
GERARD A. SANCHEZ Loc: Las Vegas, Nv. 89123
 
oldroy wrote:
I am doing something I don't often do and that is to quote a request by a very right leaning blog for support. None of this is anything I don't believe in but is worded better than I could do it.

We get these actions from a White House that claims it will never negotiate if any of the debate is about Obamascare. We have even heard that the NPS people have been told to make these actions hurt as bad as possible. I guess most people don't know that the federal government owns about 30% of the land in the nation. Yep, they have been gobbling it up lately and now we can see why.



Do It My Way Or I'll Show You Who's The Boss.

It's both ironic and pathetic that Barack Obama is calling patriotic Americans like you and me "extortionists," "anarchists," and "arsonists" when any reasonable person can clearly see that the only person who is behaving like an extortionist is Barack Obama.

In recent days, the Obama Regime has:

Closed open-air monuments, memorials and parks to veterans and patriotic Americans, but then opened the National Mall (which was supposedly closed) to i*****l a***ns to stage a massive Amnesty rally.

Thrown tax-paying Americans out of their privately owned homes because those homes apparently stood on government land. Nevada CBS affiliate KTNV reported: "Joyce Spencer is 77-years-old and her husband Ralph is 80. ... The Spencers never expected to be forced out of their Lake Mead home, which they've owned since the 70s, but on Thursday, a park ranger said they had 24 hours to get out."

Informed civilian chaplains that they could face prison if they dared to celebrate Mass on military installations during this phantom shutdown. According to John Schlageter, the General Counsel for the Archdiocese of Military Services, civilian chaplains were informed that "During the shutdown, it is illegal for them to minister on base and they risk being arrested if they attempt to do so." What's next? Will doctors face jail time for rendering services that are not approved under ObamaCare?

Ordered the National Park Service to close privately run marinas, restaurants and inns throughout the country that are on government land. In some cases, the National Park service was ordered to post guards to keep people from using these privately owned establishments during the government shutdown. By the way, the federal government owns about 30 percent of the total land-mass of the United States.

Closed the Atlantic Ocean. You read that right. In what can only be described as dictatorial and delusional hubris, Barack Obama's National Park Service informed charter boat captains in Florida, who must have access to the ocean to make a living, that the Florida Bay was closed due to the shutdown, and that closure of public beaches was just one of many examples.

It's time for our elected officials to answer a very important question: Do we live in the United States of America or the once defunct Soviet Union?
I am doing something I don't often do and that is ... (show quote)


Every year Republicans zealots in U.S. Congress blackmail the Democrat President over longer-term increase in the debt ceiling, and the Federal deficit continued increasing without tax revenue, now is 16.7 trillion.

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Oct 10, 2013 13:14:37   #
eastedie Loc: Florida
 
Obama will soon declare federal martial law and take away states rights according to the European Times who cites information from a leaker in the Pentagon.

Here is the website regarding what was leaked and Obama’s plans:

http://www.eutimes.net/2013/10/pentagon-warns-to-expect-radical-change-in-US-government-soon

Obama will invoke his powers based on “50 USC Chapter 13 – I**********n”

America is about to “t***sform” as Obama promised in his 2008 and 2012 e******ns when he stated – “I will basically t***sform America”.

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Oct 10, 2013 14:18:29   #
hobie
 
"Obamacare" aka: "Affordable Health Care Act" was v**ed into LAW by the "REPUBLICANS". Now they wish to say "we didn't really mean it, and we're going to hold the country HOSTAGE until you renegotiate".
John Stewart points out the ludicrousness of the GOP actions much better than I can.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart-shreds-gop-over-obamacare-utter-insanity-its-a-fcking-law/

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Oct 10, 2013 15:30:04   #
GERARD A. SANCHEZ Loc: Las Vegas, Nv. 89123
 
hobie wrote:
"Obamacare" aka: "Affordable Health Care Act" was v**ed into LAW by the "REPUBLICANS". Now they wish to say "we didn't really mean it, and we're going to hold the country HOSTAGE until you renegotiate".
John Stewart points out the ludicrousness of the GOP actions much better than I can.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart-shreds-gop-over-obamacare-utter-insanity-its-a-fcking-law/


The Republicans zealots in the U.S. Congress supported with the money of the Special Interes, the Medical Industry, etc. blackmailed President Obama and shutdown the U.S. Government because OBAMACARE that passed the U.S. Congress in 2010, and the U.S. Supreme Court declared constitutional.

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Oct 10, 2013 16:28:14   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
GERARD A. SANCHEZ wrote:
Every year Republicans zealots in U.S. Congress blackmail the Democrat President over longer-term increase in the debt ceiling, and the Federal deficit continued increasing without tax revenue, now is 16.7 trillion.


Sorry, Gerard, but I don't think you have a very good grasp on what some of those terms mean and what is involved. Yes the debt has climbed about $7 trillion since Obama came to office and he does brag that he cut the deficit in half, but if you look at it you find that he has cut the deficit from his second year in half. Of course, that deficit was around $700 billion and he has cut it to about $4 billion. That is the annual amount and he has been raising the debt by at least $1 trillion each year.

I must call to your attention the fact that the Supreme Court v**e was 5 - 4. Chief Justice said he v**ed with the progressives because he viewed the law as a tax law and that he had to v**e no if you looked at as anything else. This thing will get back there, maybe not soon enough, but the next time it will be because of the Origination Clause of the Constitution and it will die at that time. You do know what the Originiation violation was, don't you?

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Oct 10, 2013 16:30:58   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
hobie wrote:
"Obamacare" aka: "Affordable Health Care Act" was v**ed into LAW by the "REPUBLICANS". Now they wish to say "we didn't really mean it, and we're going to hold the country HOSTAGE until you renegotiate".
John Stewart points out the ludicrousness of the GOP actions much better than I can.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart-shreds-gop-over-obamacare-utter-insanity-its-a-fcking-law/


Poor old hobie. You take something from Comedy Central and call it news. Only someone who doesn't know his butt from page 9 would say anything like Republicans passed that law. I bet you didn't know that not one single Republican v**e was Aye on that one. All those yes v**es were handed in by Democrats.

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Oct 10, 2013 17:46:58   #
GERARD A. SANCHEZ Loc: Las Vegas, Nv. 89123
 
oldroy wrote:
Sorry, Gerard, but I don't think you have a very good grasp on what some of those terms mean and what is involved. Yes the debt has climbed about $7 trillion since Obama came to office and he does brag that he cut the deficit in half, but if you look at it you find that he has cut the deficit from his second year in half. Of course, that deficit was around $700 billion and he has cut it to about $4 billion. That is the annual amount and he has been raising the debt by at least $1 trillion each year.

I must call to your attention the fact that the Supreme Court v**e was 5 - 4. Chief Justice said he v**ed with the progressives because he viewed the law as a tax law and that he had to v**e no if you looked at as anything else. This thing will get back there, maybe not soon enough, but the next time it will be because of the Origination Clause of the Constitution and it will die at that time. You do know what the Originiation violation was, don't you?
Sorry, Gerard, but I don't think you have a very g... (show quote)


Mathematics is exact science, the only thing I know is that the Federal deficit in 1980 under President Carter was 69 billions, with President Reagan increased to 3 trillion, with President Bush Sr. increased to 5 trillion, them President Clinton balanced the Federal budget 4 years and left a surplus 1.3 trillion dollars, them President Bush Jr. came in 2000 and giveaway the 1.3 billion surplus dollars that he said was the people money and lowered the taxes, declared the war in the middle east without money and increased the Federal deficit to 8 trillions dollars and left office with the catastrophe in WALL St. that President Obama has to bailout and the Federal deficit now is 16.7 trillion dollars with the war still going on. CAN YOU BLAME PRESIDENT OBAMA FOR THE DEFICIT NOW ?.

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Oct 10, 2013 17:49:36   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
GERARD A. SANCHEZ wrote:
Mathematics is exact science, the only thing I know is that the Federal deficit in 1980 under President Carter was 69 billions, with President Reagan increased to 3 trillion, with President Bush Sr. increased to 5 trillion, them President Clinton balanced the Federal budget 4 years and left a surplus 1.3 trillion dollars, them President Bush Jr. came in 2000 and giveaway the 1.3 billion surplus dollars that he said was the people money and lowered the taxes, declared the war in the middle east without money and increased the Federal deficit to 8 trillions dollars and left office with the catastrophe in WALL St. that President Obama has to bailout and the Federal deficit now is 16.7 trillion dollars with the war still going on. CAN YOU BLAME PRESIDENT OBAMA FOR THE DEFICIT NOW ?.
Mathematics is exact science, the only thing I kno... (show quote)


You really don't understand the difference between deficit and debt, do you?

I don't know where you got your numbers but some of them were the debt numbers and some deficit. I hope someone from the left explains some of this to you since I can't.

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Oct 10, 2013 21:13:16   #
GERARD A. SANCHEZ Loc: Las Vegas, Nv. 89123
 
oldroy wrote:
You really don't understand the difference between deficit and debt, do you?

I don't know where you got your numbers but some of them were the debt numbers and some deficit. I hope someone from the left explains some of this to you since I can't.


Don't be so smart Mr. Oldroy, I am talking Federal deficits since 1981 after the I.R.S. Tax reform passed in the U.S. Congress and signed by President Reagan, I don't care the U.S. Government debt because with 16.7 trillion dollar deficit now the U.S.A. is going to hell no matter the shutdown now. If you believe in GOD start praying now.

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Oct 10, 2013 22:16:17   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
GERARD A. SANCHEZ wrote:
Don't be so smart Mr. Oldroy, I am talking Federal deficits since 1981 after the I.R.S. Tax reform passed in the U.S. Congress and signed by President Reagan, I don't care the U.S. Government debt because with 16.7 trillion dollar deficit now the U.S.A. is going to hell no matter the shutdown now. If you believe in GOD start praying now.


We aren't hearing the Glorious Leader tell us that if he is not given more than $1 trillion additional money the government will remain shutdown and the Republicans will continue to be blamed, are we? He has already increased the debt over $7 trillion in 5 years and although he has promised to bring the troops out of Afghanistan in 2014 he still needs that much money in his expense account. You are doing a very good prog job of trying to show that it is all Bush's fault that he is still spending like a drunken sailor and Obama has never been in the Navy or any other military service.

You do need to get control of the numbers you grow around and then show me what Obama has done, up to now, to indicate a willingness to negotiate and not demand so many things.

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Oct 10, 2013 23:15:00   #
GERARD A. SANCHEZ Loc: Las Vegas, Nv. 89123
 
oldroy wrote:
We aren't hearing the Glorious Leader tell us that if he is not given more than $1 trillion additional money the government will remain shutdown and the Republicans will continue to be blamed, are we? He has already increased the debt over $7 trillion in 5 years and although he has promised to bring the troops out of Afghanistan in 2014 he still needs that much money in his expense account. You are doing a very good prog job of trying to show that it is all Bush's fault that he is still spending like a drunken sailor and Obama has never been in the Navy or any other military service.

You do need to get control of the numbers you grow around and then show me what Obama has done, up to now, to indicate a willingness to negotiate and not demand so many things.
We aren't hearing the Glorious Leader tell us that... (show quote)


Mr. Oldroy: I repeat, President Obama isn't GOD or a MESSIAH, no matter who is the President of the U.S. the Federal deficit will continue increasing, the Federal debts continue growing, the Federal Reserve Bank continue printing f**e dollars paper, until CHINA stop taking paper dollars without buying power and our economy collapse.

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Oct 11, 2013 08:54:43   #
katz Loc: washington
 
GERARD A. SANCHEZ wrote:
Mathematics is exact science, the only thing I know is that the Federal deficit in 1980 under President Carter was 69 billions, with President Reagan increased to 3 trillion, with President Bush Sr. increased to 5 trillion, them President Clinton balanced the Federal budget 4 years and left a surplus 1.3 trillion dollars, them President Bush Jr. came in 2000 and giveaway the 1.3 billion surplus dollars that he said was the people money and lowered the taxes, declared the war in the middle east without money and increased the Federal deficit to 8 trillions dollars and left office with the catastrophe in WALL St. that President Obama has to bailout and the Federal deficit now is 16.7 trillion dollars with the war still going on. CAN YOU BLAME PRESIDENT OBAMA FOR THE DEFICIT NOW ?.
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Hell ya!!!!!!!!

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Oct 11, 2013 09:14:05   #
vernon
 
GERARD A. SANCHEZ wrote:
Every year Republicans zealots in U.S. Congress blackmail the Democrat President over longer-term increase in the debt ceiling, and the Federal deficit continued increasing without tax revenue, now is 16.7 trillion.


thats a stupid statement ,that shows your ignorance about debt and paying the bills.all you welfare creeps just want to take more and more .i know a girl who is making 13$an hour and when the govt gets through with taking what they want she gets about 325 wk to live on ,i say its time for your welfare and food stamps get cut and you go to work

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Oct 11, 2013 10:51:00   #
GERARD A. SANCHEZ Loc: Las Vegas, Nv. 89123
 
katz wrote:
Hell ya!!!!!!!!


KATZ I feel sorry for you, Mr. John Kerry the U.S. Secretary of State said to the students in Germany that in U.S. we have the right to be stupid because the 1st amendment of U.S. constitution.

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