Dave Loc: Upstate New York

The battle about budgets, continuing resolution and debt ceiling increase are a sad testimony to just how warped Obama and his supporters have become.

OK, let's go ahead and fund Obamacare - even though it was advertised as needing no funds, that it would actually decrease the deficit.

OK, let's go ahead with a continuing resolution to continue running the government into deficits twice the worse we've ever seen before Obama with no strings attached.

OK, let's go ahead with raising yet again the debt limit, and again with no strings attached.

When do Democrats offer anything to deal with this cancerous situation? Where does Obama and any of his supporters offer anything resembling serious discussion of getting our fiscal house in order? How can they ignore the debacle they are foisting off to the young?

In order to support this President, in order to avoid being called a r****t, are we all expected to take this leap off the fiscal cliff, to say to our young we've had a good ride at your expense but we've proved we're not r****t, just selfish fools?

UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA

They have most folks believing the deficit is shrinking and is on track to being the lowest in a long time. Media articles like this one only helps their argument:

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-08-08/the-shrinking-federal-deficit-hurts-a-gop-argument

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

Unc - they have to be expecting thier readers to be too dumb to understand two major elements of the "shrinking" deficit. One, this "shrunk" deficit is almost twice the previous high deficit if one discounts Obama's record. Two, this is despite the highest revenue the federal government has ever seen at any time in the past.

faithistheword

"What's the difference?!" That's the democrat mantra now. I saw a Toyota SUV today, at the drive-through, with a bumper sticker--"I'm ready to v**e for Hillary!" Doesn't come much dumber than that, but I'd guess they're ALL like that. We can't even keep up with the interest payments on the debt, but barry and his crew want to increase it, while telling his followers that it won't increase the debt, if he increases the debt! AND THEY BELIEVE IT!!!

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

What is really dumb is trying to reason with people who you think are dumb. Perhaps you should rethink what is your are trying to say

I takes a rather smart person to do that & I think you missed.

UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA

Yepperee and he'll be credited the shrink by all the media and folks who watch/read it.

jeff smith

I wish that I could operate my household budget like our government runs the national budget. Damn I would have everything I ever dreamed of having plus a whole lot more. But it doesn't work that way, I'd be arrested and be put into prison. To bad we can't do that to the politicians, who keep raising the debut ceiling instead of paying down our debut.

vernon

dave i wish you could give the republicans that advise .why do the republicans allow all these crapy people call them name and not respond ,they are low lifes and have no business in government.

faithistheword

Maybe the shortcoming is yours? It makes sense to me.

Peggy Kirk

The problem is that a great many of us do not know what is right. We have come to distrust everything that is said right or wrong. Forgive me. What some of us do, mainly me, is go with the gut.

This administration is hiding a great deal of something. They are slipping into Agenda 21, NWO or worse. I have searched hard for answers and am getting some really unsettling information. The UN controls our State Parks? Controlled weather? HAARP wars? It could be all they are doing is no more than an act. That would make sense then. Nothing would have to mean anything. I know this sounds like a foolish comment but I don't want to sound too smart. NSA is listening.

Peggy Kirk

I thought NO. We have spent multitudes on it's creation. How many government hours have been wasted? Also, what else will they connive to debate about if we give up on Obama care? That word isn't even spelled right. Obamacare!

Lets trim it and move on, we can fix it later. It is just a distraction rather than making our government account for the real issues we need to address. Like, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. We, as a nation need to readdress it and force our government to give us all the up to date details about where we stand with it and what our choices are. We can't stand our ground if we are ill-informed.

Peggy Kirk

I meant we need to readdress the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and where we stand with the Government and the UN. Then we can navigate to correct our government and all its actions. There have been some changes such as the bill that Kerry just signed that too many people do not know about. There are petitions from the government for people to sell their farmlands, for the Indians,,, Yeah, right. Then I have read that the UN is holding the rights to our State Parks. What is that? We need to get on this... forget Obamacare.

RONALD

Is it the bill of rights that says we have the right to take up arms against the government if it get's out of control?WELL IT"S WAY OUT OF CONTROL, so what now????

Voice of Reason Loc: Earth

Most people, especially the low-info v**ers, believe wh**ever the media tells them. As long as we have a left-wing media that refuses to objectively report the t***h nothing will change.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

The system has set up safe guards just for that situation.
If you were to be active in speaking out such actions you could be treated as a terrorist. If that happened you may just end up missing.

Take a look at how police forces are being armed.
Any gathering of protesters may well end up being like what happen in Boston. You will be treated just as those terrorist were.

From the first setting up of the USA, property rights have been foremost. Human rights were added to the dismay of many of the landed parties.

The wishes of the Tea Party is to undue rights of the people granted in the Bill of Rights. Not all but some.

The weakening of the middle class is what the objective is.
That most of us here may end up worse off than many in Third World Countries seems all right with them.

I find it ironic that so many are so willing to help bring about their own down fall.

If we wish to avoid a total take over of our rights & retain or get back our rights we have to act as one. If the middle dies we will suffer.

America was a Great Place. A Melting Pot. A strong middle class. The middle class is dieing & most of us on this site are in the line of fire.

Some of us may get richer, but most will slide down the slope & be worse off.

Is it the sliding down that worries you, that fuels the fear in you? So much so that you hang on to the American Dream that is fading away. Hoping that the Fat Cats will carry you to your dream.Well dream on because they worry only of them self.

I have lived my life with out wanting a lot. I could get by. How many of you want to end up having less?

It need not be a painful change that has to be made.
Mostly people have to say I have enough. If most have enough, things could be fine.

Just a few with most of the wealth & the rest poor dose not make a strong nation. It is the health & well being of the people around us that makes us strong.