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Jan 27, 2016 14:13:48   #
vernon
 
archie bunker wrote:
I'm not from Europe. I'm from Texas. So....I don't care.


louisiana here

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Jan 27, 2016 14:16:04   #
vernon
 
alabuck wrote:
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If you wouldn't like the treatment, why should African-Americans like it. Like with whites, it's the very small percentage of people that commit the crimes, but according to you, all must suffer "...and get over it."

BTW- In #6, the black was qualified in ALL aspects. That means he had the same amount of time in. Why would you assume he's a new hire? It wasn't a 'trick question.'


well are you saying my remarks are wrong or lies.

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Jan 27, 2016 14:25:43   #
vernon
 
alabuck wrote:
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Hence, you're part of the problem. You don't care.



wrong you are the problem for talking bullcrap and excuses.why not go forth and teach people how to be responsible and to take care of them selves and not be dependent on govt or other people to take car of them.
i recommend you see the movie"tobbaco road "it was starring william powell made in the 30s maybe it will give you some idea of whats going on.

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Jan 27, 2016 15:42:39   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
vernon wrote:
you believe what you want,but tell me why would i would drive 30 miles to go to mass.like i said you dont know what your talking about,i live in a parish that is at least 60% black.


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I believe you'd drive 30 miles to a more white church, if there were one available. I also don't think you openly express the views you express in here, in the church you attend.

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Jan 27, 2016 15:53:20   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
vernon wrote:
wrong you are the problem for talking bullcrap and excuses.why not go forth and teach people how to be responsible and to take care of them selves and not be dependent on govt or other people to take car of them.
i recommend you see the movie"tobbaco road "it was starring william powell made in the 30s maybe it will give you some idea of whats going on.


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Why don't YOU take your hate and jealousy and funnel it into teaching others to be self sufficient? From what you say, you'd be an expert on that. I'm sure the less fortunate would appreciate your teaching them how to get off welfare. I suppose you know where the jobs are that they can get to earn enough money to get out of poverty.

So, you're still living in the 1930's. Most of the rest of us live in the 21st century. BTW- I have watched "Tobacco Road." You should try reading the novel. There's a lot the movie left out.

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Jan 27, 2016 18:46:19   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
alabuck wrote:
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It wasn't meant to be abrasive. Sorry if you chose to take it that way.

So, your 14 year old kid is a metaphor. My example wasn't. It was taken from real life black experience.

I'll ask you some honest questions. How would you react if you were denied a job because of your race? How would you react if you were followed around a store by "Store Security" immediately upon entering? How would you like it if you were charged a much higher interest rate for a loan just because of your race? How would you liked it if you were pulled over by the police because you were a different color than the majority of people living in the neighborhood you were driving through? How would you like it if shortly after moving into a new neighborhood, suddenly most of your new neighbors had "For Sale" signs posted in their front yards? How would you like it if you were hired to do a job and discovered you were paid less than your white counterparts, yet you were equally qualified in every area of the job requirements?

Every one of my questions is taken from actual and verified events of discrimination against African-Americans. And, every event occurred no longer than 10 years ago.
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I can't confirm, or deny that any of these things have actually happened alabuck. Can you confirm them? I don't treat people that way, and have never seen it happen. If I did, I would call it out.

That being said, I haven't seen race relations in this country as bad as they are since the community agitator took office in my 52 years on this earth.

I also feel NO guilt, or responsibility for what has been done by generations before me because of MY skin color. You say that I am part of the problem when all I do is base my feelings about a person on who, and what they are not skin color. You have no idea how many white niggers I shun because of their behavior!! Some of them family members.

Take that how you want, I don't care! I strongly believe in personal responsibility. Part of that is fathers raising, and supporting their children. Look at the stats on that one.

I also think that the behavior of many, not all blacks using transgressions from generations past is a lame excuse.

BTW. I working really hard here to be nice, because you keep repeating left wing talking points with no documentation to back up your assertions.

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Jan 27, 2016 19:33:02   #
vernon
 
alabuck wrote:
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Why don't YOU take your hate and jealousy and funnel it into teaching others to be self sufficient? From what you say, you'd be an expert on that. I'm sure the less fortunate would appreciate your teaching them how to get off welfare. I suppose you know where the jobs are that they can get to earn enough money to get out of poverty.

So, you're still living in the 1930's. Most of the rest of us live in the 21st century. BTW- I have watched "Tobacco Road." You should try reading the novel. There's a lot the movie left out.
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i wont brag but you just dont know.;

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Jan 27, 2016 19:34:09   #
vernon
 
alabuck wrote:
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Why don't YOU take your hate and jealousy and funnel it into teaching others to be self sufficient? From what you say, you'd be an expert on that. I'm sure the less fortunate would appreciate your teaching them how to get off welfare. I suppose you know where the jobs are that they can get to earn enough money to get out of poverty.

So, you're still living in the 1930's. Most of the rest of us live in the 21st century. BTW- I have watched "Tobacco Road." You should try reading the novel. There's a lot the movie left out.
---------- br Why don't YOU take your hate and jea... (show quote)

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Jan 27, 2016 19:35:17   #
vernon
 
there you go assuming because you dam sure dont know what your talking about as usual.

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Jan 27, 2016 21:26:29   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
vernon wrote:
you said if you were hired,you 9ut it that way so i think i gave the correct answered.and all you want to do is attack me but just tell mewhat answer is a lie or even wrong.and you dont call me out anymore that glucon and he is a racist and a liar.i dont think i put down anyone not even you but if you want to get nasty im sure i can to.like your an over stuffed know it all bully that is as weak minded as any i have ever read on opp.and i dont think anyone into political correctness should
should be reading from the scriptures to anyone but them selves.
you said if you were hired,you 9ut it that way so ... (show quote)

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I take it you've never heard of 'hiring from within,' huh? Time in service? That kind of stuff? I never said the guy was being hired from the outside.

Glucon's no more a liar and a racist than the man in the moon. He may some far-fetched ideas, but a liar and a racist, he's not. Sorry, but that distinct dishonor is yours, for this instant. Remember, there are over 800 pages of what you've said to and about other people, in the archives of this website. Plus, they're very easy to access. So, anyone, who wants to, can read for themselves just what kind of liar and racist you are by reading what you've written in the past. Try as you might, you can't erase the facts about your past writings. They speak volumes about you and your attitudes towards.

Nasty? I haven't even gotten close to "nasty." "Nasty" is still on the back burner. But, if you'd like, I'll move it up to the front burner.

And, yes, you ARE a liar. I identified you as one a few exchanges back. Maybe you'd like to go and re-read that particular exchange to refresh your "selective forgetfulness."

As to your comment, "and i dont think anyone into political correctness should
should be reading from the scriptures to anyone but them selves." Please, show me, in Scripture, where showing love and kindness to one's neighbors and strangers and the destitute, isn't "politically correct" and is wrong to do. Where is it condemned?

As a follow-up to "political correctness" being wrong, I realize that there are some differences between the Catholic and Protestant Bibles. Catholic and Protestant Bibles, both, include 27 books in the New Testament. Protestant Bibles have only 39 books in the Old Testament, however, while Catholic Bibles have 46. The seven books included in Catholic Bibles are: Tobit, Judith, 1 and 2 Maccabees, Wisdom, Sirach, and Baruch. Catholic Bibles also include sections in the Books of Esther and Daniel which are not found in Protestant Bibles. These additional books are called the "Deuterocanonical" books. The Catholic Church considers these books to be inspired by the Holy Spirit. Am I wrong in my belief regarding this, Vern?

In spite of these differences, both share the Gosple of Matthew, from which I quoted. Given your unabashed propensity for demeaning minorities, and since you back-handeadly claim to be a Christian, a reminder of what God's Word says about treating the less fortunate, would be in order. Also, as Christians, it is our duty to call out those fellow believers who stray from following the Word. That, too, is Biblical.

Now, I'm not a Catholic. I'm a Protestant. But, I was married to a Catholic for over 20 years; we attended mass just about every week (either on Saturday evening or on Sunday mornings) and raised our children as Catholics. So, I guess my experiences and knowledge on the Bible(s) and theology would count for something.

Lastly, as you choose to believe that those on welfare enjoy being on welfare, let me challenge you to go into the "projects" closest to your home. Get just 10 people to answer their doors. Of those who open their door to you, ask them if they enjoy living where they are and if not, why then, are they still living there. Unless they shoot you first, thinking you're looking for some way to evict them, you'll be very surprised how much their answers will contradict your beliefs.

Of course, I realize that you'd never partake in such a drastic adventure as that. But, unless you're willing to actually spend time, seeing what others go through, just to get by, day after day, you'll never change your misguided attitude.

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Jan 27, 2016 21:27:33   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
vernon wrote:
i wont brag but you just dont know.;


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Don't know what, Vern? Please, enlighten me.

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Jan 27, 2016 22:25:46   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
alabuck wrote:
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I take it you've never heard of 'hiring from within,' huh? Time in service? That kind of stuff? I never said the guy was being hired from the outside.

Glucon's no more a liar and a racist than the man in the moon. He may some far-fetched ideas, but a liar and a racist, he's not. Sorry, but that distinct dishonor is yours, for this instant. Remember, there are over 800 pages of what you've said to and about other people, in the archives of this website. Plus, they're very easy to access. So, anyone, who wants to, can read for themselves just what kind of liar and racist you are by reading what you've written in the past. Try as you might, you can't erase the facts about your past writings. They speak volumes about you and your attitudes towards.

Nasty? I haven't even gotten close to "nasty." "Nasty" is still on the back burner. But, if you'd like, I'll move it up to the front burner.

And, yes, you ARE a liar. I identified you as one a few exchanges back. Maybe you'd like to go and re-read that particular exchange to refresh your "selective forgetfulness."

As to your comment, "and i dont think anyone into political correctness should
should be reading from the scriptures to anyone but them selves." Please, show me, in Scripture, where showing love and kindness to one's neighbors and strangers and the destitute, isn't "politically correct" and is wrong to do. Where is it condemned?

As a follow-up to "political correctness" being wrong, I realize that there are some differences between the Catholic and Protestant Bibles. Catholic and Protestant Bibles, both, include 27 books in the New Testament. Protestant Bibles have only 39 books in the Old Testament, however, while Catholic Bibles have 46. The seven books included in Catholic Bibles are: Tobit, Judith, 1 and 2 Maccabees, Wisdom, Sirach, and Baruch. Catholic Bibles also include sections in the Books of Esther and Daniel which are not found in Protestant Bibles. These additional books are called the "Deuterocanonical" books. The Catholic Church considers these books to be inspired by the Holy Spirit. Am I wrong in my belief regarding this, Vern?

In spite of these differences, both share the Gosple of Matthew, from which I quoted. Given your unabashed propensity for demeaning minorities, and since you back-handeadly claim to be a Christian, a reminder of what God's Word says about treating the less fortunate, would be in order. Also, as Christians, it is our duty to call out those fellow believers who stray from following the Word. That, too, is Biblical.

Now, I'm not a Catholic. I'm a Protestant. But, I was married to a Catholic for over 20 years; we attended mass just about every week (either on Saturday evening or on Sunday mornings) and raised our children as Catholics. So, I guess my experiences and knowledge on the Bible(s) and theology would count for something.

Lastly, as you choose to believe that those on welfare enjoy being on welfare, let me challenge you to go into the "projects" closest to your home. Get just 10 people to answer their doors. Of those who open their door to you, ask them if they enjoy living where they are and if not, why then, are they still living there. Unless they shoot you first, thinking you're looking for some way to evict them, you'll be very surprised how much their answers will contradict your beliefs.

Of course, I realize that you'd never partake in such a drastic adventure as that. But, unless you're willing to actually spend time, seeing what others go through, just to get by, day after day, you'll never change your misguided attitude.
---------- br br I take it you've never heard of ... (show quote)


You are Glaucon. I've seen this before here. Look up Rumitoid. Yep.

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Jan 27, 2016 22:47:58   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
archie bunker wrote:
I can't confirm, or deny that any of these things have actually happened alabuck. Can you confirm them? I don't treat people that way, and have never seen it happen. If I did, I would call it out.

That being said, I haven't seen race relations in this country as bad as they are since the community agitator took office in my 52 years on this earth.

I also feel NO guilt, or responsibility for what has been done by generations before me because of MY skin color. You say that I am part of the problem when all I do is base my feelings about a person on who, and what they are not skin color. You have no idea how many white niggers I shun because of their behavior!! Some of them family members.

Take that how you want, I don't care! I strongly believe in personal responsibility. Part of that is fathers raising, and supporting their children. Look at the stats on that one.

I also think that the behavior of many, not all blacks using transgressions from generations past is a lame excuse.

BTW. I working really hard here to be nice, because you keep repeating left wing talking points with no documentation to back up your assertions.
I can't confirm, or deny that any of these things ... (show quote)


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You can't confirm or deny because you aren't taking the time and effort to. Remember, you don't care.

I admire your efforts to restrain yourself. However, don't hold back on my account. I think you've forgotten, too, this is the "Leaning Left" forum. It's designed for those of us who are "left-wing." So, I'd expect you'd already know that we'll be using "left-wing talking points" to buttress our comments. It's the same procedure you guys practice in the Conservative forums. As to documentation, everything I reference can be verified via the Internet. All you need do is research it. After all, I use the Internet to verify the "right-wing talking points" you guys use. Using the Internet, its so easy to prove that the "right-wing talking points" are full of crap.

TAG! Your turn!

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Jan 27, 2016 22:49:09   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
archie bunker wrote:
You are Glaucon. I've seen this before here. Look up Rumitoid. Yep.


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Nope! Wrong again! You must be so proud!

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Jan 27, 2016 22:54:57   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
alabuck wrote:
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You can't confirm or deny because you aren't taking the time and effort to. Remember, you don't care.

I admire your efforts to restrain yourself. However, don't hold back on my account. I think you've forgotten, too, this is the "Leaning Left" forum. It's designed for those of us who are "left-wing." So, I'd expect you'd already know that we'll be using "left-wing talking points" to buttress our comments. It's the same procedure you guys practice in the Conservative forums. As to documentation, everything I reference can be verified via the Internet. All you need do is research it. After all, I use the Internet to verify the "right-wing talking points" you guys use. Using the Internet, its so easy to prove that the "right-wing talking points" are full of crap.

TAG! Your turn!
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I don't use talking points. I use my brain, and rational, common sense. Period.
Good day to you sir!

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