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Nov 6, 2015 17:09:06   #
SamDawkins
 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ben-carson-pyramids-for-grain-not-pharaohs-1.3307627


Ben Carson, U.S. p**********l hopeful, lied about acceptance to West Point
Republican candidate claims he received scholarship, but he never even applied to military academy
Thomson Reuters Posted: Nov 06, 2015 12:29 PM ET Last Updated: Nov 06, 2015 1:19 PM ET

Ben Carson detailed a scholarship offer from a prestigious military school in his account of a meeting with General William Westmoreland in 1969, when Carson was a high school student.
Ben Carson detailed a scholarship offer from a prestigious military school in his account of a meeting with General William Westmoreland in 1969, when Carson was a high school student. (Brennan Linsley/Associated Press)

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Republican p**********l candidate Ben Carson's campaign on Friday acknowledged he never applied nor was accepted to the U.S. Military Academy at West Point – a tale he included in his autobiography and that he has repeated since then, POLITICO reported on Friday.

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APTOPIX West Point Graduation
Graduating cadets line up after marching into Michie Stadium during a graduation and commissioning ceremony on May 23, 2015, at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point. (Mike Groll/Associated Press)

The details of a scholarship were included in Carson's account of a meeting with General William Westmoreland in 1969 when Carson was a high school student in the ROTC program, which provides preliminary military training for students interested in becoming officers.

"He was introduced to folks from West Point by his ROTC supervisors," campaign manager Barry Bennett told POLITICO in an email. "They told him they could help him get an appointment based on his grades and performance in ROTC. He considered it but in the end did not seek admission."

That differs from the text of Carson's 1990 autobiography, Gifted Hands, in which he wrote that he dined with Westmoreland and that "Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point."

Trump quickly tweets attack

Rival Donald Trump, with whom Carson is neck-and-neck for the top spot in the Republican p**********l primary polls, quickly took to Twitter to attack the retired neurosurgeon.

Ben Carson
'He considered it but in the end did not seek admission,' Carson's campaign admitted of his actual experience with West Point. (Jessica Christian/Jackson Citizen Patriot/Associated Press)

"WOW, one of many lies by Ben Carson! Big story," Trump wrote and included a link to the article in which Carson's campaign acknowledged the fabrication. The revelation came only hours after Carson attacked the media for what he called a "bunch of lies" as he faced questions on Friday about his accounts of his violent past.

Carson, who is popular with evangelical v**ers, often speaks on the campaign trail about his flashes of violence during his youth, casting the lessons he learned from that period as evidence he has the strength of character to be president.

In his autobiography, Carson wrote that as a teen, he tried to stab a friend named Bob in the stomach with a knife but was stopped by the boy's belt buckle.

On Thursday on the campaign trail, when pressed by reporters about the incident and also in an interview with Fox News, Carson said that Bob's name, along with some other names in the autobiography, were pseudonyms that he used to protect the privacy of the people he was writing about. He described Bob in the book as a friend and classmate. In the Fox News interview and on CNN, Carson said the boy was a "close relative."

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Nov 6, 2015 17:14:36   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
SamDawkins wrote:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ben-carson-pyramids-for-grain-not-pharaohs-1.3307627


Ben Carson, U.S. p**********l hopeful, lied about acceptance to West Point
Republican candidate claims he received scholarship, but he never even applied to military academy
Thomson Reuters Posted: Nov 06, 2015 12:29 PM ET Last Updated: Nov 06, 2015 1:19 PM ET

Ben Carson detailed a scholarship offer from a prestigious military school in his account of a meeting with General William Westmoreland in 1969, when Carson was a high school student.
Ben Carson detailed a scholarship offer from a prestigious military school in his account of a meeting with General William Westmoreland in 1969, when Carson was a high school student. (Brennan Linsley/Associated Press)

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Republican p**********l candidate Ben Carson's campaign on Friday acknowledged he never applied nor was accepted to the U.S. Military Academy at West Point – a tale he included in his autobiography and that he has repeated since then, POLITICO reported on Friday.

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APTOPIX West Point Graduation
Graduating cadets line up after marching into Michie Stadium during a graduation and commissioning ceremony on May 23, 2015, at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point. (Mike Groll/Associated Press)

The details of a scholarship were included in Carson's account of a meeting with General William Westmoreland in 1969 when Carson was a high school student in the ROTC program, which provides preliminary military training for students interested in becoming officers.

"He was introduced to folks from West Point by his ROTC supervisors," campaign manager Barry Bennett told POLITICO in an email. "They told him they could help him get an appointment based on his grades and performance in ROTC. He considered it but in the end did not seek admission."

That differs from the text of Carson's 1990 autobiography, Gifted Hands, in which he wrote that he dined with Westmoreland and that "Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point."

Trump quickly tweets attack

Rival Donald Trump, with whom Carson is neck-and-neck for the top spot in the Republican p**********l primary polls, quickly took to Twitter to attack the retired neurosurgeon.

Ben Carson
'He considered it but in the end did not seek admission,' Carson's campaign admitted of his actual experience with West Point. (Jessica Christian/Jackson Citizen Patriot/Associated Press)

"WOW, one of many lies by Ben Carson! Big story," Trump wrote and included a link to the article in which Carson's campaign acknowledged the fabrication. The revelation came only hours after Carson attacked the media for what he called a "bunch of lies" as he faced questions on Friday about his accounts of his violent past.

Carson, who is popular with evangelical v**ers, often speaks on the campaign trail about his flashes of violence during his youth, casting the lessons he learned from that period as evidence he has the strength of character to be president.

In his autobiography, Carson wrote that as a teen, he tried to stab a friend named Bob in the stomach with a knife but was stopped by the boy's belt buckle.

On Thursday on the campaign trail, when pressed by reporters about the incident and also in an interview with Fox News, Carson said that Bob's name, along with some other names in the autobiography, were pseudonyms that he used to protect the privacy of the people he was writing about. He described Bob in the book as a friend and classmate. In the Fox News interview and on CNN, Carson said the boy was a "close relative."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ben-carson-pyramids-f... (show quote)


SamDawkins-looks like you were s**mmed by politico re the West Point story. Dr. Carson has verified the other incidents. I will take his word over the media's especially Politico. Good Luck America !!!

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Nov 6, 2015 17:21:15   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
SamDawkins wrote:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ben-carson-pyramids-for-grain-not-pharaohs-1.3307627


Ben Carson, U.S. p**********l hopeful, lied about acceptance to West Point
Republican candidate claims he received scholarship, but he never even applied to military academy
Thomson Reuters Posted: Nov 06, 2015 12:29 PM ET Last Updated: Nov 06, 2015 1:19 PM ET

Ben Carson detailed a scholarship offer from a prestigious military school in his account of a meeting with General William Westmoreland in 1969, when Carson was a high school student.
Ben Carson detailed a scholarship offer from a prestigious military school in his account of a meeting with General William Westmoreland in 1969, when Carson was a high school student. (Brennan Linsley/Associated Press)

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Republican p**********l candidate Ben Carson's campaign on Friday acknowledged he never applied nor was accepted to the U.S. Military Academy at West Point – a tale he included in his autobiography and that he has repeated since then, POLITICO reported on Friday.

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Ben Carson heads into Republican debate as Iowa front-runner
APTOPIX West Point Graduation
Graduating cadets line up after marching into Michie Stadium during a graduation and commissioning ceremony on May 23, 2015, at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point. (Mike Groll/Associated Press)

The details of a scholarship were included in Carson's account of a meeting with General William Westmoreland in 1969 when Carson was a high school student in the ROTC program, which provides preliminary military training for students interested in becoming officers.

"He was introduced to folks from West Point by his ROTC supervisors," campaign manager Barry Bennett told POLITICO in an email. "They told him they could help him get an appointment based on his grades and performance in ROTC. He considered it but in the end did not seek admission."

That differs from the text of Carson's 1990 autobiography, Gifted Hands, in which he wrote that he dined with Westmoreland and that "Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point."

Trump quickly tweets attack

Rival Donald Trump, with whom Carson is neck-and-neck for the top spot in the Republican p**********l primary polls, quickly took to Twitter to attack the retired neurosurgeon.

Ben Carson
'He considered it but in the end did not seek admission,' Carson's campaign admitted of his actual experience with West Point. (Jessica Christian/Jackson Citizen Patriot/Associated Press)

"WOW, one of many lies by Ben Carson! Big story," Trump wrote and included a link to the article in which Carson's campaign acknowledged the fabrication. The revelation came only hours after Carson attacked the media for what he called a "bunch of lies" as he faced questions on Friday about his accounts of his violent past.

Carson, who is popular with evangelical v**ers, often speaks on the campaign trail about his flashes of violence during his youth, casting the lessons he learned from that period as evidence he has the strength of character to be president.

In his autobiography, Carson wrote that as a teen, he tried to stab a friend named Bob in the stomach with a knife but was stopped by the boy's belt buckle.

On Thursday on the campaign trail, when pressed by reporters about the incident and also in an interview with Fox News, Carson said that Bob's name, along with some other names in the autobiography, were pseudonyms that he used to protect the privacy of the people he was writing about. He described Bob in the book as a friend and classmate. In the Fox News interview and on CNN, Carson said the boy was a "close relative."
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"WE" know, "WE" know, comrade sam. ANYTHING conservative or Republican to "Alinskyites" is a lie, stupid, fabricated, a tale and untrue; and all the crap generated by the liberal progressive agenda seems to somehow miss or overlook all the "red-diaper babies" who are currently infesting our free-market Western civilization. Hummmmm. Why do you suppose that is, comrade???

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Nov 6, 2015 18:14:35   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
SamDawkins wrote:
Ben Carson, U.S. p**********l hopeful, lied about acceptance to West Point
Republican candidate claims he received scholarship, but he never even applied to military academy

Ben Carson detailed a scholarship offer from a prestigious military school in his account of a meeting with General William Westmoreland in 1969, when Carson was a high school student.
Ben Carson detailed a scholarship offer from a prestigious military school in his account of a meeting with General William Westmoreland in 1969, when Carson was a high school student. (Brennan Linsley/Associated Press)
Ben Carson, U.S. p**********l hopeful, lied about ... (show quote)
If you feel it is necessary to continue exposing your idiocy, Sam, we won't hold it against you. In fact, I encourage it. It means we don't have to work so hard to get you brainwashed progs out from under the rocks. And, the Politico hit piece is a beautiful example of how that works.

Politico committed egregious journalistic malfeasance when it reported on Dr. Carson's invitation to attend West Point.

Westmoreland merely offered Carson a scholarship, he explained the application, vetting, and recommendation processes, but Carson turned it down He wanted to pursue a career in medicine. All of this crap aimed at Carson is typical l*****t hit pieces made up of bald faced lies. It is another unconscionable attempt by progressive hacks to destroy a good man's character. And you, you gullible fool, bought it hook, line and sinker.

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Nov 6, 2015 18:27:34   #
SamDawkins
 
Ricko wrote:
SamDawkins-looks like you were s**mmed by politico re the West Point story. Dr. Carson has verified the other incidents. I will take his word over the media's especially Politico. Good Luck America !!!



For those trying to defend this lie ,please stop. It wasn't even a good lie.
Every Cadet that enters West Point is there on scholarship.Its part of the tough admissions process.Carson exposed an ignorance of this process even by referring to scholarship.There is no tuition if you are admitted.Those defending him also seem to ignore the fact that Westmoreland was in Washington,DC. on the date Carson says he was in Detroit. since he plays such a significant part in Carson's story,and the date is absolute, there is no way for him to get out of that lie.Finally,and this is most important, the process is defined and tough.There has to be either a Congressional nomination ( your Senator or House member)or a nomination from the Vice president of the United States. Without a nomination,there is no chance of even applying.So it's impossible for someone to have offered him a place a West Point,even if Westmoreland was there( and he wasn't).
He lied, He very obviously lied. It's a really bad lie.

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Nov 6, 2015 18:29:15   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
If you feel it is necessary to continue exposing your idiocy, Sam, we won't hold it against you. In fact, I encourage it. It means we don't have to work so hard to get you brainwashed progs out from under the rocks. And, the Politico hit piece is a beautiful example of how that works.

Politico committed egregious journalistic malfeasance when it reported on Dr. Carson's invitation to attend West Point.

Westmoreland merely offered Carson a scholarship, he explained the application, vetting, and recommendation processes, but Carson turned it down He wanted to pursue a career in medicine. All of this crap aimed at Carson is typical l*****t hit pieces made up of bald faced lies. It is another unconscionable attempt by progressive hacks to destroy a good man's character. And you, you gullible fool, bought it hook, line and sinker.
If you feel it is necessary to continue exposing y... (show quote)


You were listening to Rush Limbaugh and his Clinton-esk explanation. Its funny but Carson actually admitted that he falsified that info in the book. He used the word "fabricated".

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Nov 6, 2015 18:32:48   #
SamDawkins
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
If you feel it is necessary to continue exposing your idiocy, Sam, we won't hold it against you. In fact, I encourage it. It means we don't have to work so hard to get you brainwashed progs out from under the rocks. And, the Politico hit piece is a beautiful example of how that works.

Politico committed egregious journalistic malfeasance when it reported on Dr. Carson's invitation to attend West Point.

Westmoreland merely offered Carson a scholarship, he explained the application, vetting, and recommendation processes, but Carson turned it down He wanted to pursue a career in medicine. All of this crap aimed at Carson is typical l*****t hit pieces made up of bald faced lies. It is another unconscionable attempt by progressive hacks to destroy a good man's character. And you, you gullible fool, bought it hook, line and sinker.
If you feel it is necessary to continue exposing y... (show quote)


See my response to Ricko.

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Nov 6, 2015 18:39:49   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
SamDawkins wrote:
See my response to Ricko.


A great summary of this "big one". I also heard the same Rush Limbaugh BS today where he accused politico of journalistic malfeasance. LOL!!!! I would not parrot Limbaugh. This must be another of those 0.01 percent's of the time he is wrong.

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Nov 6, 2015 18:42:28   #
SamDawkins
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
A great summary of this "big one". I also heard the same Rush Limbaugh BS today where he accused politico of journalistic malfeasance. LOL!!!! I would not parrot Limbaugh. This must be another of those 0.01 percent's of the time he is wrong.


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Nov 6, 2015 18:45:46   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
SamDawkins wrote:
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This won't be the last one. And this guy just keeps on a smiling.

Seriously though, if he is this comfortable with both lying and admitting the lie, I'd imagine he has even bigger skeletons in his closet.

It really never fails, the self proclaimed "religious" are the ones who should raise the biggest red f**gs. I can't wait for the Huckaby closet to open. Lordy.

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Nov 6, 2015 19:11:59   #
SamDawkins
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
This won't be the last one. And this guy just keeps on a smiling.

Seriously though, if he is this comfortable with both lying and admitting the lie, I'd imagine he has even bigger skeletons in his closet.

It really never fails, the self proclaimed "religious" are the ones who should raise the biggest red f**gs. I can't wait for the Huckaby closet to open. Lordy.



You're k**lin me smalls
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Huckabee is scary kind of religious. Heck he even supports s***ery.

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Nov 6, 2015 19:25:53   #
SamDawkins
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
If you feel it is necessary to continue exposing your idiocy, Sam, we won't hold it against you. In fact, I encourage it. It means we don't have to work so hard to get you brainwashed progs out from under the rocks. And, the Politico hit piece is a beautiful example of how that works.

Politico committed egregious journalistic malfeasance when it reported on Dr. Carson's invitation to attend West Point.

Westmoreland merely offered Carson a scholarship, he explained the application, vetting, and recommendation processes, but Carson turned it down He wanted to pursue a career in medicine. All of this crap aimed at Carson is typical l*****t hit pieces made up of bald faced lies. It is another unconscionable attempt by progressive hacks to destroy a good man's character. And you, you gullible fool, bought it hook, line and sinker.
If you feel it is necessary to continue exposing y... (show quote)


However, his defenders tried to rescue Dr. Carson's story by saying that sometime between May 23rd and 26th, 1969, he met with General William Westmoreland.

However, records produced by the US Army show that General Westmoreland was not in Detroit on May 23rd, 24th, 26th, and 27th, but was in Washington keeping a low profile and conducting meetings along with making a trip to Massachusetts and Vermont.

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Nov 6, 2015 19:27:14   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
SamDawkins wrote:
For those trying to defend this lie ,please stop. It wasn't even a good lie.
Every Cadet that enters West Point is there on scholarship.Its part of the tough admissions process.Carson exposed an ignorance of this process even by referring to scholarship.There is no tuition if you are admitted.Those defending him also seem to ignore the fact that Westmoreland was in Washington,DC. on the date Carson says he was in Detroit. since he plays such a significant part in Carson's story,and the date is absolute, there is no way for him to get out of that lie.Finally,and this is most important, the process is defined and tough.There has to be either a Congressional nomination ( your Senator or House member)or a nomination from the Vice president of the United States. Without a nomination,there is no chance of even applying.So it's impossible for someone to have offered him a place a West Point,even if Westmoreland was there( and he wasn't).
He lied, He very obviously lied. It's a really bad lie.
For those trying to defend this lie ,please stop. ... (show quote)



Sam,

I was about to post the same information.. Good for you, nice that information gets passed to OPP. Even though it will have the right wingers swinging in the wind trying to change it as they wish to believe..

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Nov 6, 2015 19:33:17   #
SamDawkins
 
permafrost wrote:
Sam,

I was about to post the same information.. Good for you, nice that information gets passed to OPP. Even though it will have the right wingers swinging in the wind trying to change it as they wish to believe..

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:




You are very welcome. Apparently great minds think alike ? LOL

:lol: And Nice to meet you. :thumbup:

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Nov 6, 2015 22:02:07   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
SamDawkins wrote:
For those trying to defend this lie ,please stop. It wasn't even a good lie.
Every Cadet that enters West Point is there on scholarship.Its part of the tough admissions process.Carson exposed an ignorance of this process even by referring to scholarship.There is no tuition if you are admitted.Those defending him also seem to ignore the fact that Westmoreland was in Washington,DC. on the date Carson says he was in Detroit. since he plays such a significant part in Carson's story,and the date is absolute, there is no way for him to get out of that lie.Finally,and this is most important, the process is defined and tough.There has to be either a Congressional nomination ( your Senator or House member)or a nomination from the Vice president of the United States. Without a nomination,there is no chance of even applying.So it's impossible for someone to have offered him a place a West Point,even if Westmoreland was there( and he wasn't).
He lied, He very obviously lied. It's a really bad lie.
For those trying to defend this lie ,please stop. ... (show quote)
Sorry, bubba, as incoherent as your rant is, I don't see where Carson lied. Cutting away all the bullsh!t, you are supporting an attack on one of the great medical minds in American history--Director of Pediatric Neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins. You are participating in an assault on a decent man of integrity. The l*****ts hacks did the same thing to Clarence Thomas, Michael Steele, Alan West, Herman Cain and every other black conservative. They attacked Mia Love and now they launched on Jenean Hampton, Lt Gov elect of Kentucky.

F*cking pathetic how low the left will go.


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Five Serious Questions About Politico’s Hit On Ben Carson’s West Point story

Politico published a major hit on Republican p**********l candidate Ben Carson Friday claiming his campaign “admits fabricating” part of Carson’s West Point story, but their story leaves some unanswered questions.

“Ben Carson’s campaign on Friday admitted, in a response to an inquiry from POLITICO, that a central point in his inspirational personal story was fabricated: his application and acceptance into the U.S. Military Academy at West Point,” Kyle Cheney writes in the lede.

Here are five questions Cheney does not answer in the piece.

1. When, if ever, has Carson claimed he actually applied and was admitted to West Point?

The lede says Carson has claimed to have both applied and been admitted to West Point, and Cheney reports West Point has no record of him applying or being admitted. But quotes drawn from two of Carson’s books, as well as statements from his campaign, do not support Cheney’s claim.

2. Did Cheney leave out something that the campaign told Politico?

The lede and headline claim the campaign “admits” a central point of his story was made up. But the statements from the campaign Cheney includes only concede Carson may have mixed up the date on which he had the initial conversation with Gen. William Westmoreland. Is this admission left out of the story, or did the campaign not actually make this concession?

3. Does Politico dispute Carson’s account of a later conversation with Westmoreland in which the offer happened?

Cheney disputes the date of the event, but not the later conversation Carson says led to the offer of a full-ride to West Point. Did Cheney try to track down that conversation? The story doesn’t say.

4. Has Politico determined what Carson meant by “later?”

Carson is quoted in his book as saying he was introduced to Westmoreland, had dinner with him, and “Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point.” Later could mean a lot of different things. Did Cheney verify whether later meant that day, that week, that month or some other time?

5. Has Politico somehow verified what Westmoreland promised Carson in that conversation?

Carson’s story, as quoted in Cheney’s piece, is that Westmoreland “opened doors” and offered him a “full scholarship” to West Point, and that he considered the offer but ultimately “did not seek admission.” Has Politico somehow verified whether Westmoreland, who is now deceased, made the offer?

Carson spokesman Ben Watts attacked the story, telling The Daily Caller News Foundation, “The Politico story is an outright lie. Dr. Carson as the leading ROTC student in Detroit was told by his commanders that he could get an appointment to the academy. He never said he was admitted or even applied.”

Politico’s Cheney also did not respond immediately to a request for comment.
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