lone_ghost Loc: Wisconsin

What exactly is liberalism. No diatribes, no rhetoric, Just simple fact. Liberals want to eliminate God as a fundamental aspect of human nature. I am not going to give you a whole bunch of websites to verify this, just open your eyes. Liberals believe that every one should be equal and it does not matter if they put forth any effort to be so, they still are entitled to everything that those who do work have earned. Liberals believe that abhorrent behavior is excusable, morality has no meaning, ethics are subjective to the individual. Liberals believe that they can create a utopian society where every one is just as they are. However, they have forgotten human nature. We are independent, the only way they can control us would be through authoritarianism. What seems like a good idea now will turn into a nightmare later. It is inevitable.

virgil Loc: petal.ms

we could outlaw liberalism but that would be against our fore fathers design. But, sooner (I hope) than later they will as will the rest of American find out that our constitution allows for both without keep the god part away from schools, meetings and government business. ALL OF OUR RELIGIONS ARE THE FOUNDATIONS OF OUR COUNTRIES MORALS. Without which we come to what we are today.

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

liberalism could be tolerated in this country but the c*******m that has taken over the democrat party should not be tolerated

4vbs2

REALLY???? If you are so good at reading minds, perhaps you can tell us what Assad is thinking? Or how the stock market will go today? That is the problem with extreme "Conservatives". They think that they know all of the answers. Why not drop the labels and deal with the issues?

weneedrubio

Even the Pope has said that "sin is going against your conscience and you can get to Heaven without believing in God." Can't get much more liberal then that. Now even the church is no good for answering life's questions.

weneedrubio

Liberalism requires equqlity regardless of input, that's c*******m. Just look at our schools and what the liberal movement has done to them. Read Obamacare, e******y of care regardless of input is what it is all about too.

Ve'hoe

"In The Future of Liberalism (2009), Alan Wolfe writes that the true heirs to the liberalism of John Locke, Adam Smith, and Thomas Jefferson are not today’s classical liberals (libertarians), but rather the other kind of liberals, those who would use government power to assure autonomy and e******y for all. Such “modern liberalism,” for Wolfe, is simply an updating of the original: In the eighteenth century, political power crushed autonomy and e******y, requiring a free market as the antidote; now private corporate power under capitalism does the same, but this time the remedy is active government." Sheldon Richmond.


"But now I must part ways with Wolfe because he has an utterly self-defeating idea of how to secure everyone’s mastery over his or her own one’s destiny: the welfare state. Judging by the history and nature of the state, we must conclude that Wolfe’s program would lead not to liberation but rather to subjugation of the individual. Wolfe has things turned topsy-turvy: To advocate today what Smith advocated yesterday—a free market unregulated by government—is to foster greater, rather than lesser, dependency and less, rather than more, e******y. . . . [I]n the highly organized and concentrated forms taken by capitalism in the contemporary world, removing government from the marketplace does not allow large numbers of people to become entrepreneurs in ways that enable them to set the terms by which their lives will be led; it instead allows firms to reduce their obligations to their employees and thereby make them more dependent on the vagaries of the market."

That pretty much describes what we have now,,,, and it isn't working...our capitalism has wiped out the mom/pop entrepreneurs,,, and our corporate capitalism has become more like corporate piracy...aided a great deal by our v**ed in corrupt leadership.....

vernon

i think political parties should be outlawed.they do nothing for the country ,they they just perpuate their own their own existance

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

as long as people have choice there will be political parties what you are advocating is that people should have no choice

Loki Loc: Georgia

It has been said that the Founders were Liberals. They were, but now in today's sense of the word. Their Liberalism was that of John Locke, the 17th Century philosopher credited with establishing this as a viable system of beliefs. Liberalism, in it's original packaging, was a great deal like modern day Libertarianism, in that the Liberalism of the Founders, and of Locke, advocated large amounts of personal freedom, but recognized the need for large amounts of personal responsibility as it's concomitant. The Liberalism of the Founders included a belief in a Lassez Faire or free market economy, rather than the discredited (to everyone but modern day "liberals") Keynesian model requiring massive governmental interference.

Modern day Liberalism, unlike that of the Founders, is an abdication of personal responsibility, and freedom to the clutches of some faceless, omniscient "Authority," (hereinafter known as government), that, despite all evidence to the contrary, in the Liberal dream world, is somehow always benevolent. Just let "Authority" run everything, and there will be a chicken in every pot, 2 cars in every garage, and ice cream for Sunday dinner, all paid for with someone else's money. Exactly who that someone is, is never really explained.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Dayum banjo why do I agree with you? :lol: :thumbup:

Loki Loc: Georgia

Hopefully because I'm right.

vernon

Alex how is that taking away from choice.i believe it would increase choice because increase particitation.these parties just nominate the people that are for party not country.

Ve'hoe

Assad is thinking: HAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA,,,, deeeeeeep breath)..HAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I should have gone to Havuud! HAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHA

vernon

4vbs you talk about extreme , how can you v**e for a demorat it is the most extreme party in the history of the us