memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)

http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/we-are-above-the-law-of-the-land/

Yeah, this one is more rhetorical. However, it would appear that there are those who believe that they are.

I seldom like to mix religion with politics, but when discussing this particular topic, it is inevitable. Please bear in mind that the particular religion discussed in this topic views itself as a total governance system. It describes economics, religion, politics, indeed every facet of a person's day to day life.

Participants would be well advised to have studied this religion to some extent before commenting. Mere opinion will likely make you look foolish.

MasterAdrian Loc: Amsterdam, NL

Taking the bait (and probably be labeled a fool by the poster...):

1. WND is a right-wing anti-islam, anti-muslim organization. WND considers itself to be the voice of conservative America, while it mostly if not only reports on matters that involve extreme viewpoints and ignores the fact that not all muslims are as extremist as shown by WND.

2. having said that, the ko'ran is not a book word simple statements on or about a religion, the ko'ran is a book that is the basis of a social structure of care, compassion and community affairs.

I am NOT muslim, but have studied the ko'ran (for as much as possible), and contrare to the bible the ko'ran lets see people how a community should be functioning, socially!

Ahwell, probably the words of a fool........................

memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)

No, but I may label you "ignorant". It is clear that you haven't studied the Bible, otherwise you would not have said that next to last statement.

The fact is, that you know nothing of the koran. I too have read the koran. It does, as you say, define an entire system of governance. It is government, law, religion, economics all rolled into one. It also commands practitioners to bring jihad to the infidel (non-practitioners). It sanctions rape. It allows sanctions sodomy of children, going so far as to likening a young boy as to a fine pearl. Not only does it sanction murder, but it commands that you behead infidels how will not convert, or to make them s***es. There is little good to be found in Islam. It truly is a religion of h**e.

The Bible, on the other hand, gives historical accounting of the people of Israel, and the consequences of their failure to follow God's will. It also is the testimony of Christ who came to bring understanding of the Law of Moses and Aaron and the Prophets. Not just understanding, but completion of the law as well. His sacrifice and resurrection sealed the New Covenant he made with his followers, and those who follow them in following His teachings. I provided more evidence of this in another post discussing the two Commandments He gave. I'll let you find that and read it for yourself. The only other command He gave was to go into the world and make disciples of all men. His was a message of love and caring for your fellow man. If we all simply followed His teachings, and truly applied them to our lives, there would be no need for any further law as we would all be taking care of each others needs. There would be no poor.

I did warn that this topic requires knowledge of the subject matter. Do a little research...if for no other reason than to attempt to disprove me...then get back with me. Perhaps then I will decide if I think you truly ignorant. I won't call you a fool, because the Bible says not to call your brother (your fellow man) a fool. If you are behaving foolishly, I may say that you are behaving foolishly, but I'll never call you a fool.

MasterAdrian Loc: Amsterdam, NL

Thanks for the labeling.....
I regard people who label other people arrogant, but that aside......

Also thank you for qualifying my knowledge about both the Ko'ran as well as the Bible, very interesting for someone who claims to be having in depth knowledge of both.

Mind you btw, you are nothing more then other people here, just a subscriber and participation of and in discussions, do not pose as someone who knows everything, as that would you look like a fool!

Have good day, and be happy with yourself!

memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)

Oh, I am very happy with myself. Let us not forget that you are the first one (between the two of us) to start the whole labeling issue, and ridiculing other peoples opinions. You are as much a classical progressive liberal as TheChardo is. So I expect nothing less from you...and nothing more, sadly. As for knowledge, you are the one who attempted this conversation with poor knowledge. I have a copy of the koran. Just because I happen to be a Christian doesn't mean that I'm not interested in what other faiths have to say. How can I talk to a Muslim if I don't know his frame of reference. The one thing I've learned from the Muslims that I have talked with is that they seldom have read the koran at all, let alone in its entirety. They simply are told what it says, and told not to question their teachers. So, knowing about the Koran is very useful. Now if you have nothing useful to contribute, then please continue, otherwise, I have nothing more to say to you.