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Oct 8, 2015 16:25:35   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Watch closely - if Biden enters the race, Hillary will be indicted. If he doesn't, Hillary will not be. Should Hillary be indicted before Biden announces, know for sure he has decided, just not announced.

The Obama folks clearly favor Biden over her - it's there own little war on a woman - but without Biden in the race they'd figure she's the only chance the Dem's have.

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Oct 15, 2015 23:08:54   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
Dave wrote:
Watch closely - if Biden enters the race, Hillary will be indicted. If he doesn't, Hillary will not be. Should Hillary be indicted before Biden announces, know for sure he has decided, just not announced.

The Obama folks clearly favor Biden over her - it's there own little war on a woman - but without Biden in the race they'd figure she's the only chance the Dem's have.

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I'm sure that the GOPTP has already selected who it wants on its next investigative committee, the first of several to look into impeaching President Hilliary Clinton.

I wonder if the GOPTP will end up with the same kind of results; that is the Committee Chairman outing the real reason for so many committees on Benghazi and a former staffer admitting the same. Millions of dollars wasted by the "party for pork."

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Oct 16, 2015 08:48:38   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
alabuck wrote:
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I'm sure that the GOPTP has already selected who it wants on its next investigative committee, the first of several to look into impeaching President Hilliary Clinton.

I wonder if the GOPTP will end up with the same kind of results; that is the Committee Chairman outing the real reason for so many committees on Benghazi and a former staffer admitting the same. Millions of dollars wasted by the "party for pork."


I'm guessing that either you don't realize that investigation is how we, including the Obama Administration, learned about the private e-mail server - or worse, you are a denier who, like Sanders, suggests national security isn't all that important

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Oct 16, 2015 12:53:24   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
Dave wrote:
I'm guessing that either you don't realize that investigation is how we, including the Obama Administration, learned about the private e-mail server - or worse, you are a denier who, like Sanders, suggests national security isn't all that important


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You people "act" like the use of private email accounts is some new and sinister. Anything to drive Clintons poll numbers down is what has been admitted to as the " real reason" for the hearings. Sure, the use of private email accounts might be something that wasn't general knowledge to the general public or even most people in Congress; but, that doesn't alter the fact that the use of them hasn't been going along for quite some time.

I'm a retired federal employee. For over 20 years, I used BOTH my personal and government email accounts to do business for the government. It wasn't a secret. It was an accepted way to conduct business. Again, the GOPTP "acts" like it's something new and sinister; all in its attempts to make Clinton look bad.

How about these instances.
ALL THE OTHER TIMES A POLITICIAN AVOIDED OFFICIAL EMAIL
PROPUBLICA
JOURNALISM IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST.MARCH 14 2015 8:30 AM

A roundup from ProPublica.

By Leticia Miranda
former-u-s-secretary-of-state-hillary-clinton-speaks
Hillary Clinton at a speaking engagement in 2013. The former secretary of state has been criticized for using a private email account during her tenure.

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has been on the defensive ever since the New York Times first reported that she used a private email account for government business.

But Clinton is hardly first government official to breach the public’s trust in this way. Here is a quick review of other officials .

Colin Powell relied on personal emails while secretary of state, Politico, March 2015
Since news of Clinton’s use of private email for White House business broke, an aide to Colin Powell says he “might have occasionally used personal email addresses” to correspond with staff and officials during his tenure as Secretary of State.

Bush Advisers’ Approach on E-Mail Draws Fire, New York Times, April 2007
The Bush Administration admits that as many as 22 political advisers to the president, including Bush advisor Karl Rove, used their Republican National Committee email accounts for White House related business. At the time, the RNC automatically purged emails after 30 days. Later, a White House spokesperson reported that as many as 5 million emails could have been lost from the White House’s official server.

Jeb Bush Owned Personal Email Server He Used as Governor, NBC News, March 2015
A Mar. 4, 2015 report from NBC News finds that from 1999 to early 2007 Jeb Bush used his own private email server for official business as Florida Governor.

Two ex-Walker aides charged with illegal campaigning, Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, January 2012
Two former aides to Gov. Scott Walker, while he was Executive of Milwaukee County, used a private Internet network to conduct campaign work. They are later charged with illegally campaigning on government time.

Trove of Palin E-Mails Draws Press to Alaska, New York Times, June 2011
In 2011, Sarah Palin releases more than 24,000 pages of emails sent from a private account while she was Alaska’s governor, responding to public records requests made in 2008. The emails reveal less-than scandalous details of her life,including her early attempts to meet John McCain, a draft ghostwritten letter to the editor in response to criticism against her and plans to see a controversial Christian pastor in Juno, Alaska.

Christie administration may have violated public records law, (Bergen County) Record, January 2014
The Record releases a cache of emails sent from personal accounts between top Chris Christie aides that reveals their plan to create a traffic jam over the George Washington Bridge possibly as retribution against the mayor of Fort Lee who refused to endorse Christie in the 2013 New Jersey gubernatorial election.

After Pledge of Sunlight, Gov. Cuomo Officials Keep Their Email in the Shadows, ProPublica, May 2014
ProPublica finds that top advisers to New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo conduct government business through personal email accounts including Howard Glaser. ProPublica recently obtained emails from Glaser in which he touted his "significant, critical, and current input" on a deal that weakened rules to prevent misdeeds in the mortgage market.

The misuse of using two email accounts is wrong. But, given all,the time that's transpired since Clinton's two email accounts became public, you guys have had ample time to construct your next attack ads.

Your post is just another example of 'the pot calling the kettle black' political rhetoric.

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Oct 16, 2015 13:22:57   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
alabuck wrote:
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You people "act" like the use of private email accounts is some new and sinister. Anything to drive Clintons poll numbers down is what has been admitted to as the " real reason" for the hearings. Sure, the use of private email accounts might be something that wasn't general knowledge to the general public or even most people in Congress; but, that doesn't alter the fact that the use of them hasn't been going along for quite some time.

I'm a retired federal employee. For over 20 years, I used BOTH my personal and government email accounts to do business for the government. It wasn't a secret. It was an accepted way to conduct business. Again, the GOPTP "acts" like it's something new and sinister; all in its attempts to make Clinton look bad.

How about these instances.
ALL THE OTHER TIMES A POLITICIAN AVOIDED OFFICIAL EMAIL
PROPUBLICA
JOURNALISM IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST.MARCH 14 2015 8:30 AM

A roundup from ProPublica.

By Leticia Miranda
former-u-s-secretary-of-state-hillary-clinton-speaks
Hillary Clinton at a speaking engagement in 2013. The former secretary of state has been criticized for using a private email account during her tenure.

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has been on the defensive ever since the New York Times first reported that she used a private email account for government business.

But Clinton is hardly first government official to breach the public’s trust in this way. Here is a quick review of other officials .

Colin Powell relied on personal emails while secretary of state, Politico, March 2015
Since news of Clinton’s use of private email for White House business broke, an aide to Colin Powell says he “might have occasionally used personal email addresses” to correspond with staff and officials during his tenure as Secretary of State.

Bush Advisers’ Approach on E-Mail Draws Fire, New York Times, April 2007
The Bush Administration admits that as many as 22 political advisers to the president, including Bush advisor Karl Rove, used their Republican National Committee email accounts for White House related business. At the time, the RNC automatically purged emails after 30 days. Later, a White House spokesperson reported that as many as 5 million emails could have been lost from the White House’s official server.

Jeb Bush Owned Personal Email Server He Used as Governor, NBC News, March 2015
A Mar. 4, 2015 report from NBC News finds that from 1999 to early 2007 Jeb Bush used his own private email server for official business as Florida Governor.

Two ex-Walker aides charged with illegal campaigning, Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, January 2012
Two former aides to Gov. Scott Walker, while he was Executive of Milwaukee County, used a private Internet network to conduct campaign work. They are later charged with illegally campaigning on government time.

Trove of Palin E-Mails Draws Press to Alaska, New York Times, June 2011
In 2011, Sarah Palin releases more than 24,000 pages of emails sent from a private account while she was Alaska’s governor, responding to public records requests made in 2008. The emails reveal less-than scandalous details of her life,including her early attempts to meet John McCain, a draft ghostwritten letter to the editor in response to criticism against her and plans to see a controversial Christian pastor in Juno, Alaska.

Christie administration may have violated public records law, (Bergen County) Record, January 2014
The Record releases a cache of emails sent from personal accounts between top Chris Christie aides that reveals their plan to create a traffic jam over the George Washington Bridge possibly as retribution against the mayor of Fort Lee who refused to endorse Christie in the 2013 New Jersey gubernatorial election.

After Pledge of Sunlight, Gov. Cuomo Officials Keep Their Email in the Shadows, ProPublica, May 2014
ProPublica finds that top advisers to New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo conduct government business through personal email accounts including Howard Glaser. ProPublica recently obtained emails from Glaser in which he touted his "significant, critical, and current input" on a deal that weakened rules to prevent misdeeds in the mortgage market.

The misuse of using two email accounts is wrong. But, given all,the time that's transpired since Clinton's two email accounts became public, you guys have had ample time to construct your next attack ads.

Your post is just another example of 'the pot calling the kettle black' political rhetoric.
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I read your first line and realized there was no need to read further - first, to you something has to be illegal to be wrong, and second you conflate being a mail carrier with being the Sec of State for the sole super power. Can't be any more confused than that - and there is no way to carry on an intelligent conversation with reality so warped.

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Oct 16, 2015 23:27:29   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
Dave wrote:
I read your first line and realized there was no need to read further - first, to you something has to be illegal to be wrong, and second you conflate being a mail carrier with being the Sec of State for the sole super power. Can't be any more confused than that - and there is no way to carry on an intelligent conversation with reality so warped.


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In other words, unless I agree with you, you're not going to read my response. All that shows is that I f there's anyone with a warped reality, it's you. You've totally misrepresented and conflagated my post. I posted where REPUBLICANS are just as guilty of using multiple email accounts; not just Hilliary Clinton.

What's wrong, Dave? You're real good at degrading Democratics, but can't stand hearing that your boys were doing it FAR LONGER than HRC. You can't respond with facts so you try to twist my post. Go cry me a river. You can only WISH Hilliary were the first to use multiple email accounts.

Also, where do you get "mail-carrier?" I never said I was a mail-carrier. Don't you ever get tired jumping to conclusions like you do? Of course, I've never seen your conclusions to be correct, either.

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Oct 17, 2015 10:02:57   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
alabuck wrote:
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In other words, unless I agree with you, you're not going to read my response. All that shows is that I f there's anyone with a warped reality, it's you. You've totally misrepresented and conflagated my post. I posted where REPUBLICANS are just as guilty of using multiple email accounts; not just Hilliary Clinton.

What's wrong, Dave? You're real good at degrading Democratics, but can't stand hearing that your boys were doing it FAR LONGER than HRC. You can't respond with facts so you try to twist my post. Go cry me a river. You can only WISH Hilliary were the first to use multiple email accounts.

Also, where do you get "mail-carrier?" I never said I was a mail-carrier. Don't you ever get tired jumping to conclusions like you do? Of course, I've never seen your conclusions to be correct, either.
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When I read something that makes no sense from the beginning I don't care to waste time getting to the end. When I get accused of being a Republican for telling the truth about a Democrat, I realize I'm dealing with a partisan who cannot realize one can speak honestly about a clear failing of a Democrat and yet not be a Republican. You may find this hard to believe, but there really are people who are independent.

As to "my people" - I have no knowledge of independents even holding such high offices as Sec of State,

As to justifying wrong by suggesting others do it, only a fool would pursue that line of thinking.

I "conflagated" nothing and no one else could do that

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Oct 17, 2015 10:35:05   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
Dave wrote:
When I read something that makes no sense from the beginning I don't care to waste time getting to the end. When I get accused of being a Republican for telling the truth about a Democrat, I realize I'm dealing with a partisan who cannot realize one can speak honestly about a clear failing of a Democrat and yet not be a Republican. You may find this hard to believe, but there really are people who are independent.

As to "my people" - I have no knowledge of independents even holding such high offices as Sec of State,

As to justifying wrong by suggesting others do it, only a fool would pursue that line of thinking.

I "conflagated" nothing and no one else could do that
When I read something that makes no sense from the... (show quote)


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And your name-calling is another tactic of your GOPTP brothers. To call yourself and independent is lying to everybody and yourself. It's easy to see who's side your on. Please don't insult our intelligence by pretending to be something you're obviously not.

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Oct 17, 2015 10:58:29   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
alabuck wrote:
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And your name-calling is another tactic of your GOPTP brothers. To call yourself and independent is lying to everybody and yourself. It's easy to see who's side your on. Please don't insult our intelligence by pretending to be something you're obviously not.


I see you are bothered by being called a partisan after having accused me, falsely, of being a partisan.

I can also see you inability to even realize the possibility of someone being an independent - further evidence of your partisanship.

If one can understand such things, they'd be able to distinguish between a person being conservative (of which I have often and freely admitted to) and being a Republican (of which some are conservative some of the time). As you lack that ability I can see why you think I'm lying - but at the same time by this failure to distinguish you are insulting your own intelligence.

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Oct 17, 2015 11:14:58   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
Dave wrote:
I see you are bothered by being called a partisan after having accused me, falsely, of being a partisan.

I can also see you inability to even realize the possibility of someone being an independent - further evidence of your partisanship.

If one can understand such things, they'd be able to distinguish between a person being conservative (of which I have often and freely admitted to) and being a Republican (of which some are conservative some of the time). As you lack that ability I can see why you think I'm lying - but at the same time by this failure to distinguish you are insulting your own intelligence.
I see you are bothered by being called a partisan ... (show quote)


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Sorry Dave, but a conservative by any other name is still a Republican. You can argue your semantics all you want, but it still doesn't change your spots or stripes. And, your insults still give you away.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck. (Duck=conservative=GOPTP=Dave) :thumbup:

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Oct 17, 2015 11:40:47   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
alabuck wrote:
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Sorry Dave, but a conservative by any other name is still a Republican. You can argue your semantics all you want, but it still doesn't change your spots or stripes. And, your insults still give you away.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck. (Duck=conservative=GOPTP=Dave) :thumbup:


My, you've carved out an interesting niche for yourself - you not only get to decide who is and is not a member of a political party, but you get to decide what you say isn't an insult but what others say echoing you is an insult.

Meanwhile, here's few simple questions for you to consider

Is there any other Sec of State who set up their own e-mail server and used it exclusively for conducting federal business?

Is there any legitimate concern that said server might provide a national security risk that was not vetted by government officials responsible for such activity?

Is there any concern about a presidential candidate that, having set up such a system, said that she turned over all work related e-mails - only to be found that was not the truth?

Is there any concern about a presidential candidate that said there was no classified information on any of those e-mails - only to be found that not being the truth and then made the ridiculous modified position that none were marked classified at the time of transmission?

Can you honestly say that if such a candidate were a Republican, or a Libertarian, or an Independent you would find this not the least bit troubling?

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Oct 17, 2015 15:54:59   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
Dave wrote:
My, you've carved out an interesting niche for yourself - you not only get to decide who is and is not a member of a political party, but you get to decide what you say isn't an insult but what others say echoing you is an insult.

Meanwhile, here's few simple questions for you to consider

Is there any other Sec of State who set up their own e-mail server and used it exclusively for conducting federal business?

Is there any legitimate concern that said server might provide a national security risk that was not vetted by government officials responsible for such activity?

Is there any concern about a presidential candidate that, having set up such a system, said that she turned over all work related e-mails - only to be found that was not the truth?

Is there any concern about a presidential candidate that said there was no classified information on any of those e-mails - only to be found that not being the truth and then made the ridiculous modified position that none were marked classified at the time of transmission?

Can you honestly say that if such a candidate were a Republican, or a Libertarian, or an Independent you would find this not the least bit troubling?
My, you've carved out an interesting niche for you... (show quote)


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First, your question is in error because HRC did not use her private serve for government business, only. It was also for personal use; like Colin Powell admits to doing. Nice try, but I'll not bite.

You're questioning HRC's credibility because she used two email servers as SoS, yet you don't ascribe the same thoughts to her Republcan predecessors. That they aren't running for POTUS is really irrevelant to your question as I doubt you'd be seeing their actions as bad. Here's what Colin Powell had to say about his use of two servers: "I had a secure State Department machine for secure material and I had a laptop that I could use for email. I would email relatives, friends, but I would also email in the department,” Powell explained on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

Why don't you question Powell's decisions for his using two emails? How about asking Condi Rice about her emails? You make no mention of their usage but crawl HRC like she's a traitor in the first degree. If you can't see your partisanship in that, I must think your being intentionally dense.

Secondly, since this isn't something new, the fact that no secrets were found to be revealed should show that the practice was accepted.

Third, fifth and fifth, can you track every email you've ever sent or received? Errors in memory can occur with tens of thousands of emails to keep up with. How's your memory along that line? Unless it can be discovered that HRC knowingly lied, we'll just have to live with her version of events. You know, "innocent until proven guilty."

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Oct 17, 2015 22:54:00   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
alabuck wrote:
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First, your question is in error because HRC did not use her private serve for government business, only. It was also for personal use; like Colin Powell admits to doing. Nice try, but I'll not bite.

You're questioning HRC's credibility because she used two email servers as SoS, yet you don't ascribe the same thoughts to her Republcan predecessors. That they aren't running for POTUS is really irrevelant to your question as I doubt you'd be seeing their actions as bad. Here's what Colin Powell had to say about his use of two servers: "I had a secure State Department machine for secure material and I had a laptop that I could use for email. I would email relatives, friends, but I would also email in the department,” Powell explained on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

Why don't you question Powell's decisions for his using two emails? How about asking Condi Rice about her emails? You make no mention of their usage but crawl HRC like she's a traitor in the first degree. If you can't see your partisanship in that, I must think your being intentionally dense.

Secondly, since this isn't something new, the fact that no secrets were found to be revealed should show that the practice was accepted.

Third, fifth and fifth, can you track every email you've ever sent or received? Errors in memory can occur with tens of thousands of emails to keep up with. How's your memory along that line? Unless it can be discovered that HRC knowingly lied, we'll just have to live with her version of events. You know, "innocent until proven guilty."
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You are clearly in denial - you make a claim even she didn't - she admits to using her private server and claims she turned over the work related to the Dept of State.

When one denies even the facts that she admits to in defense of her one is clearly so blinded as to render themselves incapable of intellectually honest discussion.

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Oct 18, 2015 12:14:17   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
Dave wrote:
You are clearly in denial - you make a claim even she didn't - she admits to using her private server and claims she turned over the work related to the Dept of State.

When one denies even the facts that she admits to in defense of her one is clearly so blinded as to render themselves incapable of intellectually honest discussion.


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Sir, your reading comprehension is very sub-par. Re-read my post. I said "...they DID NOT use their private emails for government business, ONLY." "Only" denotes an exclusivity. "Did not" denotes that the action was not done. Is Engish not your first language; or do you have a reading disorder?

BOTH HRC AND POWELL, PUBLICALLY STATED that used their personal emails for work AND personal emails. Geez. Now I know that in addition to being partisan, you're myopic and in dire need of glasses.

She said she turned over 55,000 pages of emails. Thus far, the partisan committee looking into them hasn't said they discovered anything that broke the law. Nor, has the FBI said they've found any 'smoking guns.' Again, innocent until proven guilty, unless you're a candidate that Dave dislikes; then, it's guilty until proven innocent.

Unless you're an active member of the Committee investigating HRC, and until they release findings proving her guilt, the fact that you've already found her lacking proves my claim that you're very partisan. I'm no where near D.C. at present and am not privy to the inner workings of the committee looking into HRC. Seemingly, you have info not even the Committee has released. Why don't you share it so the rest of us can see it for ourselves. Who knows, I might change my opinion of her, too.

Until then, 'you got nuttin' but a very vocal animosity toward her, based only on what you've heard from the media. Of course, that's all you conservatives need to decide someone is bad for the country and especially your political points of view. And, especially if the info comes from Fox Entertainment News.

Like Bernie Sanders said at the Democratic debate, "I'm tired of hearing about her damn emails." All this is is a partisian which-hunt and you're just a sidelines fanatic shouting from the stands for someone to, "pound her into the dirt."

Unless and until you, Dave, can provide me/us with some facts that can prove HRC's guilty of anything criminal, then please, don't waste our time with any more hypotheticals about HRC and "...her damn emails." If you don't like her, fine, I get that. But, after watching both Republican debates and the one Democratic debate, HRC, in my mind, is the best candidate based on her experience and knowledge of the issues.

I also think Jim Webb would make a fine Sec of Defense and Bernie Sanders a good VP. I think Kasich would do a good job in a Clinton administration in a Cabinet position, as would Ben Carson be a good Surgeon General. Even Chris Christie would be a good pick for a Cabinet position.

Lastly, I really wish Joe Biden had already tossed his hat into the ring. To do so now, I think, would do the Democratic candidates, already running, a disservice and COULD turn the Democratic primary into a clown-circus, just like the GOPTP.

BTW- Just so you know, I'm a registered Republican. Unfortunately, I feel the GOP left me back in the 80's. People like Rush Limbaugh and his ilk, the "unofficial spokespersons for the GOPTP," who only know how to insult, tell lies and twist the truth, caused me to question the GOP's political direction. They no longer cared about the people. All they cared about was demonizing the opponent to the point they were seen, literally, as the devil; not just someone with a different political point of view. The GOP quit being civil and became uncivil, uncompromising and dis-unifying.

As a country, we don't need or desire that brand of politics. And, now, the GOPTP only cares about the top 10% while expecting the middle class to carry the load for the rest of the country. I also dislike how the GOPTP uses religion (Christianity) and patriotism as weapons against its opponents.

Whatever happened to, "From him that much was given, much is expected." Is that not in the Bible? I don't think God created the poor and needy just to give us people to blame our woes on. People, by their own greedy actions created the poor and needy. Now, God is watching us to see how we take care of what we created. Somehow, I don't think we're doing very well. People are very protective of their possessions. But, how many armored cars follow a hearse to a funeral? Christ said for us to give away everything we own and to follow Him. As the richest country on Earth, how well are we following His command? With the GOPTP saying that the poor and immigrants are bankrupting the country, and that we need to cut social programs and deport 11 million people, how does that mesh with Jesus' words? I don't see it.

The GOPTP has been able to get its followers to think in a "us vs them" mentality. Gone are the days of what's best for the majority. Now, the special interest groups openly buy and sell politicians like candy. Perhaps we should force politicians to wear badges, like NASCAR drivers, advertising who the politicians are owned by and who they owe political favors to.

I won't deny I sound very partisian. But it's out of a sad change, in a once good party, that I now have these feelings. Special interest groups have taken over the GOPTP, just like the Dems. Unfortunately, to me at least, the GOPTP has become far more hypocritical in its words and actions. All one need do is look at recent history, beginning with the Clinton administration, with an open mind, and it's very obvious where MOST of the obstructionism and favoritism in government originated and continues to originate. Just saying...

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Oct 18, 2015 21:19:15   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
alabuck wrote:
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Sir, your reading comprehension is very sub-par. Re-read my post. I said "...they DID NOT use their private emails for government business, ONLY." "Only" denotes an exclusivity. "Did not" denotes that the action was not done. Is Engish not your first language; or do you have a reading disorder?

BOTH HRC AND POWELL, PUBLICALLY STATED that used their personal emails for work AND personal emails. Geez. Now I know that in addition to being partisan, you're myopic and in dire need of glasses.

She said she turned over 55,000 pages of emails. Thus far, the partisan committee looking into them hasn't said they discovered anything that broke the law. Nor, has the FBI said they've found any 'smoking guns.' Again, innocent until proven guilty, unless you're a candidate that Dave dislikes; then, it's guilty until proven innocent.

Unless you're an active member of the Committee investigating HRC, and until they release findings proving her guilt, the fact that you've already found her lacking proves my claim that you're very partisan. I'm no where near D.C. at present and am not privy to the inner workings of the committee looking into HRC. Seemingly, you have info not even the Committee has released. Why don't you share it so the rest of us can see it for ourselves. Who knows, I might change my opinion of her, too.

Until then, 'you got nuttin' but a very vocal animosity toward her, based only on what you've heard from the media. Of course, that's all you conservatives need to decide someone is bad for the country and especially your political points of view. And, especially if the info comes from Fox Entertainment News.

Like Bernie Sanders said at the Democratic debate, "I'm tired of hearing about her damn emails." All this is is a partisian which-hunt and you're just a sidelines fanatic shouting from the stands for someone to, "pound her into the dirt."

Unless and until you, Dave, can provide me/us with some facts that can prove HRC's guilty of anything criminal, then please, don't waste our time with any more hypotheticals about HRC and "...her damn emails." If you don't like her, fine, I get that. But, after watching both Republican debates and the one Democratic debate, HRC, in my mind, is the best candidate based on her experience and knowledge of the issues.

I also think Jim Webb would make a fine Sec of Defense and Bernie Sanders a good VP. I think Kasich would do a good job in a Clinton administration in a Cabinet position, as would Ben Carson be a good Surgeon General. Even Chris Christie would be a good pick for a Cabinet position.

Lastly, I really wish Joe Biden had already tossed his hat into the ring. To do so now, I think, would do the Democratic candidates, already running, a disservice and COULD turn the Democratic primary into a clown-circus, just like the GOPTP.

BTW- Just so you know, I'm a registered Republican. Unfortunately, I feel the GOP left me back in the 80's. People like Rush Limbaugh and his ilk, the "unofficial spokespersons for the GOPTP," who only know how to insult, tell lies and twist the truth, caused me to question the GOP's political direction. They no longer cared about the people. All they cared about was demonizing the opponent to the point they were seen, literally, as the devil; not just someone with a different political point of view. The GOP quit being civil and became uncivil, uncompromising and dis-unifying.

As a country, we don't need or desire that brand of politics. And, now, the GOPTP only cares about the top 10% while expecting the middle class to carry the load for the rest of the country. I also dislike how the GOPTP uses religion (Christianity) and patriotism as weapons against its opponents.

Whatever happened to, "From him that much was given, much is expected." Is that not in the Bible? I don't think God created the poor and needy just to give us people to blame our woes on. People, by their own greedy actions created the poor and needy. Now, God is watching us to see how we take care of what we created. Somehow, I don't think we're doing very well. People are very protective of their possessions. But, how many armored cars follow a hearse to a funeral? Christ said for us to give away everything we own and to follow Him. As the richest country on Earth, how well are we following His command? With the GOPTP saying that the poor and immigrants are bankrupting the country, and that we need to cut social programs and deport 11 million people, how does that mesh with Jesus' words? I don't see it.

The GOPTP has been able to get its followers to think in a "us vs them" mentality. Gone are the days of what's best for the majority. Now, the special interest groups openly buy and sell politicians like candy. Perhaps we should force politicians to wear badges, like NASCAR drivers, advertising who the politicians are owned by and who they owe political favors to.

I won't deny I sound very partisian. But it's out of a sad change, in a once good party, that I now have these feelings. Special interest groups have taken over the GOPTP, just like the Dems. Unfortunately, to me at least, the GOPTP has become far more hypocritical in its words and actions. All one need do is look at recent history, beginning with the Clinton administration, with an open mind, and it's very obvious where MOST of the obstructionism and favoritism in government originated and continues to originate. Just saying...
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Do you have any evidence that Powell and Rice used private e-mail exclusively?

Do you have any evidence that Powell and Rice used their own server?

Do you have any evidence that Powel and Rice used any private e-mail for information that risked national security?

Can you figure out why the FBI and Dept of State are both conducting investigations?

....and, can you show anywhere that suggests Powell and Rice are running for office.

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