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Sep 17, 2013 09:12:48   #
bluejacket
 
Dave wrote:
Here's a real shocker for you, not every thing on the internet is true. Here's another, not every "report" provides the last and final answer to any question. Another for you, despite many trying for many years, there has been zero credible proof that fracking caused any harm anywhere - although there have been many theories that it happens.


You are probably an honorable person in your own right , and yes there are unt***hs on the internet , but the theory of earthquakes was tested over a period of time in several states and the conclusion was the same , I suspect you didn't do much research and retreated in to your mistaken belief

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Sep 17, 2013 09:22:42   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
bluejacket wrote:
You are probably an honorable person in your own right , and yes there are unt***hs on the internet , but the theory of earthquakes was tested over a period of time in several states and the conclusion was the same , I suspect you didn't do much research and retreated in to your mistaken belief


I'm afraid you are also an honorable person, however the theory was not tested - it was "correletated" which is far from concrete proof. Now, just think about this a little bit, if it was proven that fracking caused earthquakes do you really think a state like Pennsylvania would ignore that and continue fracking? Even a blue state governor like Cuomo in NY doesn't make that assertion while "trying" to decide whether or not to allow it. His experts have concluded that there is no evidence that fracking causes harm, he is reluctant to authorize it for political reasons, not scientific.

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Sep 17, 2013 09:26:38   #
bluejacket
 
Dave wrote:
I'm afraid you are also an honorable person, however the theory was not tested - it was "correletated" which is far from concrete proof. Now, just think about this a little bit, if it was proven that fracking caused earthquakes do you really think a state like Pennsylvania would ignore that and continue fracking? Even a blue state governor like Cuomo in NY doesn't make that assertion while "trying" to decide whether or not to allow it. His experts have concluded that there is no evidence that fracking causes harm, he is reluctant to authorize it for political reasons, not scientific.
I'm afraid you are also an honorable person, howev... (show quote)


do more research please

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Sep 17, 2013 16:47:53   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
bluejacket wrote:
do more research please


The United States Geological Survey (USGS) has reported earthquakes induced by hydraulic fracturing, and by disposal of hydraulic fracturing flowback into waste disposal wells, in several locations. Bill Ellsworth, a geoscientist with the U.S. Geological Survey, has said, however: “We don’t see any connection between fracking and earthquakes of any concern to society.” The National Research Council (part of the National Academy of Sciences) has also observed that hydraulic fracturing, when used in shale gas recovery, does not pose a serious risk of causing earthquakes that can be felt.

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Sep 17, 2013 18:52:07   #
roy
 
Dave wrote:
I'm afraid you are also an honorable person, however the theory was not tested - it was "correletated" which is far from concrete proof. Now, just think about this a little bit, if it was proven that fracking caused earthquakes do you really think a state like Pennsylvania would ignore that and continue fracking? Even a blue state governor like Cuomo in NY doesn't make that assertion while "trying" to decide whether or not to allow it. His experts have concluded that there is no evidence that fracking causes harm, he is reluctant to authorize it for political reasons, not scientific.
I'm afraid you are also an honorable person, howev... (show quote)


maybe dave you should go to a fracking site see what happens there maybe a lot of your so called research is put out my the very companys that are doing the frackining. so now im waiting for your next question which i pretty well know what it will be

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Sep 17, 2013 20:15:02   #
bluejacket
 
AnnMarie wrote:
Well, what I think when a rich person v**es democratic, is that they are v****g AGAINST their own personal advantage and for the country-ie patriotic. When I see a rich person v**e republican, I see someone v****g for their own personal interest, ie a selfish bastard. When I see a poor person v****g republican, I see a stupid i***t. OMG, you think that the lady taking applications at the social security office is the rich, and the reason the income disparity is so high??? The 1%, folks, the 1%, who make more in an hour than the poor paper pusher does in a year. Again, Faux news has accomplished their objective-to make people h**e and be jealous of the people one rung higher on the ladder, and not the folks at the top. This reminds me of my favority joke-a worker, a union member and a CEO are at a table with a dozen cookies. The union member and the worker take a cookie, and the CEO takes 10. The CEO tells the worker "Look out, that union member wants YOUR cookie".
Well, what I think when a rich person v**es democr... (show quote)



most of the people that are anti Obama on this thread are very poorly educated in economics and it would take to long to explain here tonight , but basically the tax structure we have built up since Reagan has favored the rich to the extent that that it has reduced demand to the point of keeping us in permanent stagnation

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Sep 17, 2013 20:45:52   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
bluejacket wrote:
most of the people that are anti Obama on this thread are very poorly educated in economics and it would take to long to explain here tonight , but basically the tax structure we have built up since Reagan has favored the rich to the extent that that it has reduced demand to the point of keeping us in permanent stagnation


Its the giving to those who can't pay it back Stupid! A free market does not work under this current debacle!

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Sep 17, 2013 20:52:40   #
bluejacket
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
Its the giving to those who can't pay it back Stupid! A free market does not work under this current debacle!


you just proved my point about poor knowledge of economics

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Sep 17, 2013 20:54:51   #
roy
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
Its the giving to those who can't pay it back Stupid! A free market does not work under this current debacle!


we dont have a free market it is being manipelated by the rich,and what you say giving to those that cant pay it back,thats what fox news and the rich want you to believe,if money is not paid out in wages,and is just hoarded which is being done now,as you see our infrastrute,is falling apart in this country,as is our roads,you will see more deteortion in our country,all the wealth cant keep going to the top or this country will fall know matter who is in office and i wouldnt add this if you hadnt called me stupid,but your a fool

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Sep 17, 2013 21:15:49   #
emarine
 
[quote=roy]we dont have a free market it is being manipelated by the rich,and what you say giving to those that cant pay it back,thats what fox news and the rich want you to believe,if money is not paid out in wages,and is just hoarded which is being done now,as you see our infrastrute,is falling apart in this country,as is our roads,you will see more deteortion in our country,all the wealth cant keep going to the top or this country will fall know matter who is in office and i wouldnt add this if you hadnt called me stupid,but your a fool[/quote

True point... You can blame any President you choose but the outcome will be the same... Corporate f*****m is the wave of our future. The tea party has served its purpose by stopping any progress to protect the american two party system from functioning at a point in time where time matters. I hope that you tea party fools like the new america, a one party corporate rule of the 1%.

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Sep 17, 2013 21:28:59   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
bluejacket wrote:
you just proved my point about poor knowledge of economics


What qualifies your dung as the pinnacle of economic?

Liberals and democrats like you have been poisoned by J.M Keynes economics 101. He was a homosexual anti-semitic crackpot. He never received a graduate degree, let along an economic one. He managed a B.A in math and got into Cambridge by nepotism. His father was on the faculty. His Ilk have corrupted economies for generations! Read & Weep the facts!
published in The Economic Journal, you did it Keynes' way.
Nice work if you can get it, and if you get it, tell me how.
They all knew of his homosexuality. They covered it up. The fact did not become public knowledge until
the publication of Michael Holroyd's two-volume biography of Lytton Strachey in 1967, an obscure
book that became an instant sensation when the facts on Keynes became public.
He lived a charmed life.
He was an economic crackpot. He was an anti-Semite. Only this year has the latter become public
knowledge. The cover-up has lasted a long time.
ANTI-SEMITIC ECONOMIC CRACKPOTS
On the fringes of the Right wing in America there is a very special movement. It is crackpot to the core.
It believes that the Jews are behind everything bad. Even worse, the Jews are making a potful of
money doing it. This really annoys them.
Not all Jews, of course. Not the guy who runs the local deli, who makes the terrific corned beef
sandwiches. He's merely a circumcised dupe. It's the other kind. The secret ones. The cartel. The
Power behind the powers.
In the 1890's, the anti-semitic crackpots in America gravitated toward the Left. The Greenback
movement in the early 1880s had its share of them. The Greenback Party died in the late 1880s, and
some of its members joined the Populist Party. This was a Left-wing movement. The anti-semitic
elements in the Populist movement were discussed half a century ago in Richard Hofstadter's book,
J. M. Keynes: An Anti-Semitic Economic Crackpot http://www.garynorth.com/public/11286print.cfm
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Sep 17, 2013 21:32:51   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
roy wrote:
we dont have a free market it is being manipelated by the rich,and what you say giving to those that cant pay it back,thats what fox news and the rich want you to believe,if money is not paid out in wages,and is just hoarded which is being done now,as you see our infrastrute,is falling apart in this country,as is our roads,you will see more deteortion in our country,all the wealth cant keep going to the top or this country will fall know matter who is in office and i wouldnt add this if you hadnt called me stupid,but your a fool
we dont have a free market it is being manipelated... (show quote)


Roy: read the quote reply it is to Bluejacket! Not you

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Sep 18, 2013 01:51:50   #
dolly_t
 
Sounds like some ones hands have never been dirty.Try real work for a living and then try to tell the middle class what to do.Dems live off the middle class and lower class.
you do not understand what a real American with less is.
It is not their fault that they have less.Opportunity does not come to all.You have to learn how to create your own opportunity if you want wealth.I do not have much but I have never taken advantage of anyone for gain.
Some of us still have honor and dignity.

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