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Sep 5, 2013 11:14:57   #
emarine
 
MPLSMAN wrote:
Jane Mayer, of The New Yorker, in her 10,000 word piece last August, peeled the cover off the onion of the Koch brothers' empire. And she focused not only on their personal wealth and family, but on their political empire building.

It was not, and is not, easy to get the details on the extent of their tentacles. They funnel money through 501c3 tax-exempt foundations, and they give money to other foundations, lobbying organizations, and right wing think tanks. They have PACs; they support candidates. Only a small portion of what they control do they divulge.

But it has now come out how involved they have been in funding Tea Party groups, Americans for Prosperity, FreedomWorks, and Citizens for a Sound Economy ($12 million).

We do know, from Mayer’s reporting, that the Koch brothers have personally given over $2 million to candidates over the last 12 years, their PAC has contributed $8 million to candidates, and they have spent $50 million on lobbying. The Charles Koch Foundation has given $48 million, and another foundation they control gave $28 million. David Koch’s foundation gave more than $120 million. According to Mayer, $196 million dollars in total was distributed in the last 10 years to conservative causes and institutions.

That all, as they say, is not chicken feed, and it begs the question: How in the heck did they stay under the radar for as long as they did?

Part of the reason is that much of what they did was not reportable but, more important, until recently they were not pouring the millions into campaigns through advertising and expenditures allowed due to the Citizens United Supreme Court case. [Read the U.S. News debate: Is the Citizens United decision hurting democracy?]

Now, to the paranoia. These folks would make Richard Nixon’s enemies list look tame. This could be a movie akin to George Clooney’s Michael Clayton.

This past weekend the Koch brothers hosted a conference in Palm Springs that resembled an armed camp. Private Koch security was everywhere—manning every doorway and stairway within range of the conference. Reporters were confronted by private security guards and told to leave or they would be arrested. A Politico reporter describes being thrown out and threatened with “a night in the Riverside County jail.”
A new academic study confirms that front groups with longstanding ties to the tobacco industry and the billionaire Koch brothers planned the formation of the Tea Party movement more than a decade before it exploded onto the U.S. political scene. The study, funded by the National Cancer Institute of the National Institute of Health, traces the roots of the Tea Party's anti-tax movement back to the early 1980s when tobacco companies began to invest in third party groups to fight excise taxes on cigarettes. Freedomworks and Americans for Prosperity were once a single organization called Citizens for a Sound Economy (CSE). CSE was founded in 1984 by the infamous Koch Brothers, David and Charles Koch, and received over $5.3 million from tobacco companies, mainly Philip Morris, between 1991 and 2004.
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Jane Mayer, of The New Yorker, in her 10,000 word ... (show quote)
Thank you for the info, That was only 1 in about 30 pieces I have seen on the Kochs, If you could PLEASE review the youtube video and fact check and offer your opinion , Corporate F*****m The destruction of America's middle class, I can't seem to disprove the main points.

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Sep 5, 2013 11:30:18   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
Yankee Clipper wrote:
They are doing nothing different from what your Marxist c****e usurper president is doing. That doesn't mean a thing to you though does it. By the way they don't finance nothing that I am aware of.

You never strike any of my nerves so keep trying.


You're brain dead , your nerves don't feel a thing . :XD:

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Sep 5, 2013 11:37:15   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
BigMike wrote:
So exactly how much have you heard from the B******i survivors? I know that CNN and other news orgnizations talked about it for days. How much have you heard about the over 400 surface to air missiles that disappeared and God knows who has them now or how they'll be used? How much have you heard about the mission that the embassy in B******i was on - to funnel arms to Syrian rebels? You can dismiss it as innuendo if you like, but I and a whole lot of other people won't, and as far as partisan goes, I distrust the Republicans as much as I do the Democrats for the same reasons. I don't like being lied to and ALL this administration has done since this thing began is lie.
So exactly how much have you heard from the B*****... (show quote)


Gee Mike did you ever consider that they have nothing to say ? All you got is innuendo , so you believe wh**ever fits your narrative . What have you heard as fact that no one else has ? NOTHING .

You deal with your conspiracy theories , I'll deal with FACTS . Don't hold your breath waiting for any impeachment , which is just an extension of your pipe dream .

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Sep 5, 2013 11:41:12   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Lou wrote:
With all due respect Big Mike , but we live in a country and are part of a society where ABSOLUTELY NOBODY KEEPS THEIR MOUTH SHUT .
Just like the friendly fire death of that Football Star in Afghanistan ,eventually leaked out , and that didn't take too long at all , even the Navy Seals on Bin Ladens death couldn't be contained .And from of all military groups , the Navy Seals who don't talk about anything , today they write bloody books and vie for movie rights .
So your theory is kinda hard to swallow , when in reality , it more a matter of a LACK OF HARD FACTS AND EVIDENCE .

No one is going to start impeachment proceedings based on partisan innuendo . Just like you as a citizen , don't get thrown in jail due to innuendo .
With all due respect Big Mike , but we live in a c... (show quote)


PS to my previous reply...a LOT of people get thrown in jail and prison due to innuendo.

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Sep 5, 2013 11:52:10   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
BigMike wrote:
PS to my previous reply...a LOT of people get thrown in jail and prison due to innuendo.


yea ok mike , I guess you must be a grade schooler , for charges to be brought a DA must bring them about or a Grand Jury .
The Congress is one big Grand Jury when it comes to this crap . So far , I don't hear a thing .

Nothing sticks as it were . And we're still in America , you know , due process , habeas corpus , etc. I guess you would suspend those ?

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Sep 5, 2013 12:01:25   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Lou wrote:
Gee Mike did you ever consider that they have nothing to say ? All you got is innuendo , so you believe wh**ever fits your narrative . What have you heard as fact that no one else has ? NOTHING .

You deal with your conspiracy theories , I'll deal with FACTS . Don't hold your breath waiting for any impeachment , which is just an extension of your pipe dream .


You are reading something into my post that I have not said. I'm not clamoring for Obama's impeachment. That was somebody else. Haven't mentioned it at all. I wouldn't have even mentioned B******i if the administration hadn't lied from the very beginning. I'm saying I don't like to be lied to. I don't like it when the Republicans do it and I don't like it when the Democrats do it. I don't like our leaders sneaking around. I don't like it when they blame others for things they did wrong. You don't know me from Adam's housecat, but you take a single sentence and imagine all kinds of things about me that aren't true, so don't talk to me about pipe dreams and conspiracy theories. You are a classic example of how they begin. In this case, however, even though it hasn't been widely reported in the places where you obviously get your information, the embassy in B******i was involved in an attempt to funnel arms to Syrian rebels, an attempt which may or may not have had something to do with the attack, and over 400 shoulder fired surface to air missiles are missing. Is this an impeachable offense? I haven't said so. It is an example of the monkeyshines our government is up to though.

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Sep 5, 2013 12:07:25   #
dville Loc: Albuquerque
 
Sandawg wrote:
I just like to see if these people can read or write. But they probably are not "WEB CONNECTED" so it does not matter.
I think their primary focus on life is to: "GET THAT N_ _ _ _ R out of the WH"
[quote=dville] We take your position well. Even in your SPACEY declaration. You sure don't hide your bigoted position. [quote]

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Sep 5, 2013 12:10:39   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Lou wrote:
yea ok mike , I guess you must be a grade schooler , for charges to be brought a DA must bring them about or a Grand Jury .
The Congress is one big Grand Jury when it comes to this crap . So far , I don't hear a thing .

Nothing sticks as it were . And we're still in America , you know , due process , habeas corpus , etc. I guess you would suspend those ?


You continue to accuse me of something I have not done. I have not said I seek the impeachment of the president. Quit telling me that already! That was someone else! Jeez! You'd think I had bad talked your mama or something. And as far as the legal system goes, I know FAR more about how it actually works than you do. If you have the inclination just check the stats on how many guilty people get off the hook and how many innocent people are convicted.

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Sep 5, 2013 12:13:52   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Lou wrote:
Gee Mike did you ever consider that they have nothing to say ? All you got is innuendo , so you believe wh**ever fits your narrative . What have you heard as fact that no one else has ? NOTHING .

You deal with your conspiracy theories , I'll deal with FACTS . Don't hold your breath waiting for any impeachment , which is just an extension of your pipe dream .


EVERYTHING is innuendo until its proven.

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Sep 5, 2013 12:21:56   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Inyourface wrote:
Big Mike you are either ill informed or you are lying about "Tea party " folks being just folks. The Teaparty is made up of disgruntled GOPers and they are old ,white and mostly male. The few "tokens" are either fools or scoundrels. This is the reality of what the Teaparty is.


That is complete horses**t! Do you actually know any tea party folks? Your comment is as asinine as mine would be if I accused the left of all being c*******ts. YOUR kind of thinking certainly will not help the nation come together OR get anything accomplished.

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Sep 5, 2013 12:32:48   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Inyourface wrote:
BHENGAZI? Well Big mike you just blew any credibilty you might have had. So sad,so pathetic these morons


Credibility? With whom? You? Who are you, that I need to have credibility with you? You wouldn't believe me if I said your ears were on the sides of your head. Its funny, though, to hear you talk about morons. You are a perfect example of why our do nothing congress can't get a thing done. They're being shouted at by people like you.

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Sep 5, 2013 12:43:28   #
Harry Cat Loc: Taxachusetts
 
What about George Soros, lefty? How many left wing imbeciles are funded by him directly or indirectly? The Answer: Left wingers are imbeciles by definition.

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Sep 5, 2013 12:53:39   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
Harry Cat wrote:
What about George Soros, lefty? How many left wing imbeciles are funded by him directly or indirectly? The Answer: Left wingers are imbeciles by definition.


So then it must hold that right wingers are s**theads by definition . How many right wing imbeciles ARE and HAVE BEEN funded by ALEC ?

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Sep 5, 2013 12:54:29   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
Lou wrote:
yea ok mike , I guess you must be a grade schooler , for charges to be brought a DA must bring them about or a Grand Jury .
The Congress is one big Grand Jury when it comes to this crap . So far , I don't hear a thing .

Nothing sticks as it were . And we're still in America , you know , due process , habeas corpus , etc. I guess you would suspend those ?


Did you forget about trial by jury ?

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Sep 5, 2013 12:55:25   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
BigMike wrote:
EVERYTHING is innuendo until its proven.


Damn right . B******i's no exception .

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