OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!

So much for all than t***sparency Obama promised us. Looks like Obama has co-opted the courts now.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/01/Courts-Allow-Obama-to-Keep-White-House-Visitor-Logs-Secret

bahmer

It's hard to pull off how t***sparent and christian you are if the books are opened. All those Muslims coming in and going out, all of those IRS agents, all of the thugs from Chicago and other riff raft all of it looks bad is all.

Thinkmanvt

You react as if Obama has created some new law or violated the existing law. He has merely used the same provision of the FOIA that allow all previous presidencies have used to protect the privacy of White House advisors. There is certainly hypocrisy (or naivety) to criticize in Bush what the reality of running an administration shows is useful (and perfectly legal and within the intent of the Congress members who wrote and enacted the FOIA). It ranks up there with GHW Bush's "read my lips" promise. Completely impractical to promise but a great crowd pleaser. My father used to say he could not v**e for Barry Goldwater because, unlike the average politician for whom you could dilute every campaign promise tenfold, that damn fool actually meant to do what he promised.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

We must all look at what Republicans did with the information about the president of the SEIU being the most visiting person in that first year of Obama's presidency. So much has been allowed to be public from that source and he just can't have it happening anymore.

Now, I don't like this but I certainly do see what it is doing to him and the lack of t***sparency Nasty Nancy Pelosi promised us about this one.

OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!

You had better do some research on the man, and his associates before you take this stand. Read "Barack Obama and the enemies within" by Trevor Louden and it will open your eyes some, that is if you're not too blinded by liberalism.

I guess it is okay for the IRS director to visit the White House 153 times over the past four years - when the director only visited 2 times in eight years of the Bush term? Oh, that's right we're not suppose to know that, it's none of our business.

Thinkmanvt

There is a difference between faulting Obama for using the protection of a law that he scoffed at the use by Bush and criticizing him for the choice of visiting advisors and members of his administration who have private meetings with him. In the first case, he is either a hypocrite or he has learned that he was wrong about the requirements of conducting a presidency. But in the second, one undertakes to speculate on what the unrevealed conversations were. I could guess that he chose to rebuke confidentially one of his private conferees while you hypothesize that he swallowed wholesale wh**ever the person is known publicly to peddle (or wh**ever secrets you speculate that the person might have to share with the President). You might be more right than I am (at least sometimes), but it is an entertainment of gossipy innuendo at best. It does not make it unimportant, but it does lack verifiability to support conclusions drawn.

OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!

The man said he was going to have the most t***sparent administration ever. Instead, like many of his broken promises (I call them lies), his administration has been the least t***sparent administration ever.

ABBAsFernando Loc: Ohio

ABBAsFernando Loc: Ohio

Thinkmanvt

I do not know what the metric of t***sparency is, but I would bet the secrets of the Nixon years (and Reagan's Contragate) were not so willing shared with the public either. People railed against secret deals with Halliburton and the Bush/Cheney protection of their advisors. The whole PAC system is screwed up with organizations seeking to be "social causes" (who do not need to reveal contributors) instead of the equally tax-exempt "political organizations" (who do need to reveal contributers). Obama was deluded to think he could change that environment single-handedly and it really does not seem that there are many politicians ready to play their games with all their cards face-up in front of them. Think of the recent solicitation of double-blind-sealed-for-fifty-years from Senators for ideas about the tax code rewrite. And the real kicker is the criticism that the norm is only 20 years for such Congressional secret testimony and "investigations". Some secrecy is considered to be a good thing in our society, and our politics are not an exception to that preference in the laws and procedures our politicians write. The FOIA is full of loopholes. That is not Obama's making nor fault and he has come to realize that people will not trust him if he does not play by their rules. {And, of course, many will never trust him even if he does protect their confidences.}

bahmer

Quite true and to bring in other administrations is ridiculous because no other administration promised t***sparency only OIllegal and now he wants it both ways. The other part is that then he either asks or his minions are so incensed that they try to use other administrations as there defense. Everything in this administration is hidden in a shroud of secrecy and is the least t***sparent of all administrations. The other administrations had to deal with the press also where this administration tells the press what to write about so everybody has the same story. In years past the investigative journalists would dig out this information for the public so that the people would know the t***h and under OIllegal both are in cahoots with each other.

Babsan

That's keeping all his lowlife C****es and Muslim terrorists secret.Good job v**ers ,you got a FRAUD and America destroyer

Anncaste

How does this black trash get away with this. Does everyone in Washington kiss his butt? Then when anyone calls him on the stupid and often illegal things he does they call them r****t! He can't take anyone picking on him
The poor spoiled crazy ass.