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Aug 30, 2013 00:19:54   #
carolyn
 
We defend our President with guns.
We defend our Congressmen with guns.
We defend our Governors with guns.
We defend our Judges with guns

BUT WE DEFEND OUR CHILDREN WITH A SIGN THAT SAYS "THIS IS A GUN FREE ZONE" THAT TELLS EVERY NUT CASE THAT THE KIDS INSIDE CAN BE MURDERED AT RANDOM.

Can anyone explain this ?

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Aug 30, 2013 01:59:41   #
ABBAsFernando Loc: Ohio
 
carolyn wrote:
We defend our President with guns.
We defend our Congressmen with guns.
We defend our Governors with guns.
We defend our Judges with guns

BUT WE DEFEND OUR CHILDREN WITH A SIGN THAT SAYS "THIS IS A GUN FREE ZONE" THAT TELLS EVERY NUT CASE THAT THE KIDS INSIDE CAN BE MURDERED AT RANDOM.

Can anyone explain this ?


Glad you asked, it is called DISINFORMATION a science developed in the former SOVIET UNION to fool the gullible. The anointed one, Obama the next Black Jesus Christ uses DISINFORMATION as his tool to fool the gullible in America. B****s suffer more than any others but just do don comprehend Obama is the reason for their suffering. Much like Hitler causing suffering in Germany with the people not comprehending it.

Guns are the check our founding fathers made sure We the People had a RIGHT cast in STONE to protect from the likes of C*******t liberals today.

This is the reason this SCUM seek to disarm us. Any criminal knows an armed victim is much more dangerous than one that is not. C*******t Liberals seek to destroy their enemies[loyal American citizens to the US Constitution.

The ruling class of so-called elites are afraid of armed citizens. They being elite take care to protect themselves at our expense. They have become royalty complete with being above the laws they make the rest of us follow.

Obama the Kenyan is another F*****T SOVIET Style Tyrant who thinks far too many humans are living today. Everything the Kenyan does is for political consumption. Obama is not a leader in any way, shape, or form.





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Aug 30, 2013 02:14:49   #
rumitoid
 
[quote=ABBAsFernando]Glad you asked, it is called DISINFORMATION a science developed in the former SOVIET UNION to fool the gullible. The anointed one, Obama the next Black Jesus Christ uses DISINFORMATION as his tool to fool the gullible in America. B****s suffer more than any others but just do don comprehend Obama is the reason for their suffering. Much like Hitler causing suffering in Germany with the people not comprehending it.

Guns are the check our founding fathers made sure We the People had a RIGHT cast in STONE to protect from the likes of C*******t liberals today.

This is the reason this SCUM seek to disarm us. Any criminal knows an armed victim is much more dangerous than one that is not. C*******t Liberals seek to destroy their enemies[loyal American citizens to the US Constitution.

The ruling class of so-called elites are afraid of armed citizens. They being elite take care to protect themselves at our expense. They have become royalty complete with being above the laws they make the rest of us follow.

Obama the Kenyan is another F*****T SOVIET Style Tyrant who thinks far too many humans are living today. Everything the Kenyan does is for political consumption. Obama is not a leader in any way, shape, or form.[/quote]

Though it is not spoken outloud, many conservatives, it seems, would favor a return to the Old West, where shot first and lynchings were considered justice. If all were armed--and well-armed--we would live happily ever after. A Utopia! Most of these people really want to say "stand your ground" laws don't go far enough. The profile of those committing the most crime, as well as those committing terrorists acts, is obvious and clear. Why wait until it might be too late with this "profiled type" acting strangely or following you?

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Aug 30, 2013 05:22:03   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
rumitoid wrote:
Though it is not spoken outloud, many conservatives, it seems, would favor a return to the Old West, where shot first and lynchings were considered justice. If all were armed--and well-armed--we would live happily ever after. A Utopia! Most of these people really want to say "stand your ground" laws don't go far enough. The profile of those committing the most crime, as well as those committing terrorists acts, is obvious and clear. Why wait until it might be too late with this "profiled type" acting strangely or following you?
Though it is not spoken outloud, many conservative... (show quote)


Rumitoid, I live in GA for now. GA has issued more than 400,000 concealed carry permits. Less than 100 of the permit holders have committed violent crimes. Almost every shall issue state has seen a drop in murders, (nearly 50 percent nationwide) since concealed carry has become common. What would you have us do? Focus on the one CCP holder who commits a crime, rather than on the 40,000 who did not? I noticed that only 3 percent of aspiring crime victims who resisted their assailant with a firearm actually became victims. Around 80 percent of the unarmed resisters were k**led or injured. Almost half of the unarmed victims who did everything their attackers said were k**led or injured anyway. No offense, but if I were of the armed robber persuasion, I would pick you over me every time.

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Aug 30, 2013 05:33:27   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
[quote=ABBAsFernando]Glad you asked, it is called DISINFORMATION a science developed in the former SOVIET UNION to fool the gullible. The anointed one, Obama the next Black Jesus Christ uses DISINFORMATION as his tool to fool the gullible in America. B****s suffer more than any others but just do don comprehend Obama is the reason for their suffering. Much like Hitler causing suffering in Germany with the people not comprehending it.

Guns are the check our founding fathers made sure We the People had a RIGHT cast in STONE to protect from the likes of C*******t liberals today.

This is the reason this SCUM seek to disarm us. Any criminal knows an armed victim is much more dangerous than one that is not. C*******t Liberals seek to destroy their enemies[loyal American citizens to the US Constitution.

The ruling class of so-called elites are afraid of armed citizens. They being elite take care to protect themselves at our expense. They have become royalty complete with being above the laws they make the rest of us follow.

Obama the Kenyan is another F*****T SOVIET Style Tyrant who thinks far too many humans are living today. Everything the Kenyan does is for political consumption. Obama is not a leader in any way, shape, or form.[/quote]

YOU NEED TO TAKE A DAMN ASPIRIN ........MAYBE MORE THAN ONE >

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Aug 30, 2013 05:40:46   #
rumitoid
 
banjojack wrote:
Rumitoid, I live in GA for now. GA has issued more than 400,000 concealed carry permits. Less than 100 of the permit holders have committed violent crimes. Almost every shall issue state has seen a drop in murders, (nearly 50 percent nationwide) since concealed carry has become common. What would you have us do? Focus on the one CCP holder who commits a crime, rather than on the 40,000 who did not? I noticed that only 3 percent of aspiring crime victims who resisted their assailant with a firearm actually became victims. Around 80 percent of the unarmed resisters were k**led or injured. Almost half of the unarmed victims who did everything their attackers said were k**led or injured anyway. No offense, but if I were of the armed robber persuasion, I would pick you over me every time.
Rumitoid, I live in GA for now. GA has issued more... (show quote)


I am a dopey idealist. That should explain everything.

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Aug 30, 2013 06:29:37   #
Lou Loc: Florida
 
rumitoid wrote:
I am a dopey idealist. That should explain everything.


And that it does ,and that it does .

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Aug 30, 2013 10:17:50   #
carolyn
 
banjojack wrote:
Rumitoid, I live in GA for now. GA has issued more than 400,000 concealed carry permits. Less than 100 of the permit holders have committed violent crimes. Almost every shall issue state has seen a drop in murders, (nearly 50 percent nationwide) since concealed carry has become common. What would you have us do? Focus on the one CCP holder who commits a crime, rather than on the 40,000 who did not? I noticed that only 3 percent of aspiring crime victims who resisted their assailant with a firearm actually became victims. Around 80 percent of the unarmed resisters were k**led or injured. Almost half of the unarmed victims who did everything their attackers said were k**led or injured anyway. No offense, but if I were of the armed robber persuasion, I would pick you over me every time.
Rumitoid, I live in GA for now. GA has issued more... (show quote)


And how many of the 100 permit holders were on the list that committed these violent crimes while standing their ground? There have been many cases that the government has added them to their lists, when in fact they are exempt. That is the whole concept of carrying concealed. If someone comes up to you and tries to take your wallet by force, or threatens you or your family,then you blow his arse away. PERIOD!

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Aug 30, 2013 11:08:25   #
Artemis
 
carolyn wrote:
And how many of the 100 permit holders were on the list that committed these violent crimes while standing their ground? There have been many cases that the government has added them to their lists, when in fact they are exempt. That is the whole concept of carrying concealed. If someone comes up to you and tries to take your wallet by force, or threatens you or your family,then you blow his arse away. PERIOD!


the problem with people who are so pro gun is they are always under the delusion because they have a gun they won't get shot first.
Do you think that's how the cops feel now, that they have a fighting chance when going to a disturbance in a NC bar? Because there is a law now that a concealed weapon is allowed at a bar. Makes sense right. Lets get drunk and carry. Oh that's not allowed, so that won't happen at all right. People keep talking about guns and our founding fathers,well that was 1776 . We have more choices now in 2013 and it doesn't have to be with bullets, including hunting. We can do away with ALL guns and have sever penalties when you carry. OK don't all you pro-gunners freak out on me at once,sit down and breath

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Aug 30, 2013 16:12:42   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
maelstrom wrote:
the problem with people who are so pro gun is they are always under the delusion because they have a gun they won't get shot first.
Do you think that's how the cops feel now, that they have a fighting chance when going to a disturbance in a NC bar? Because there is a law now that a concealed weapon is allowed at a bar. Makes sense right. Lets get drunk and carry. Oh that's not allowed, so that won't happen at all right. People keep talking about guns and our founding fathers,well that was 1776 . We have more choices now in 2013 and it doesn't have to be with bullets, including hunting. We can do away with ALL guns and have sever penalties when you carry. OK don't all you pro-gunners freak out on me at once,sit down and breath
the problem with people who are so pro gun is they... (show quote)


Where is it legal to carry in a bar? Do not say GA, because I have heard that one before. It's not. Perhaps it is, somewhere. I don't drink, so I am not sure on that one, except for my state of issuance, and I would imagine for the 24 other states that recognize my GA permit.

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Aug 30, 2013 16:33:05   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
You or a loved oned one stand a better chance being k**led by a drunk driving than shot by a drunk so why don't we band car/trucks? Pretty silly right?

On the same hand lets turn in all the guns I'm sure the bad guys will as they always follow the law. Guns do not k**l, people k**l. I could k**l you as deadwith a knive as a gun.



maelstrom wrote:
the problem with people who are so pro gun is they are always under the delusion because they have a gun they won't get shot first.
Do you think that's how the cops feel now, that they have a fighting chance when going to a disturbance in a NC bar? Because there is a law now that a concealed weapon is allowed at a bar. Makes sense right. Lets get drunk and carry. Oh that's not allowed, so that won't happen at all right. People keep talking about guns and our founding fathers,well that was 1776 . We have more choices now in 2013 and it doesn't have to be with bullets, including hunting. We can do away with ALL guns and have sever penalties when you carry. OK don't all you pro-gunners freak out on me at once,sit down and breath
the problem with people who are so pro gun is they... (show quote)

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Aug 30, 2013 17:03:47   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
maelstrom wrote:
the problem with people who are so pro gun is they are always under the delusion because they have a gun they won't get shot first.
Do you think that's how the cops feel now, that they have a fighting chance when going to a disturbance in a NC bar? Because there is a law now that a concealed weapon is allowed at a bar. Makes sense right. Lets get drunk and carry. Oh that's not allowed, so that won't happen at all right. People keep talking about guns and our founding fathers,well that was 1776 . We have more choices now in 2013 and it doesn't have to be with bullets, including hunting. We can do away with ALL guns and have sever penalties when you carry. OK don't all you pro-gunners freak out on me at once,sit down and breath
the problem with people who are so pro gun is they... (show quote)


The choices now are the same as in 1776: To be, or not to be, (an unarmed, helpless victim), that is the question. Actually, the question is your statement it's illegal to carry drunk, so it won't happen, right. But you seem to believe that doing away with all guns (right) and providing severe penalties for carrying will do away with crime. Except when drunk? I can name you two times I would have suffered a severe penalty had I NOT been carrying.

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Aug 30, 2013 17:10:28   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
I thank God I have never had reason to use it but it's always with me when I go out.


banjojack wrote:
The choices now are the same as in 1776: To be, or not to be, (an unarmed, helpless victim), that is the question. Actually, the question is your statement it's illegal to carry drunk, so it won't happen, right. But you seem to believe that doing away with all guns (right) and providing severe penalties for carrying will do away with crime. Except when drunk? I can name you two times I would have suffered a severe penalty had I NOT been carrying.

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Aug 30, 2013 17:11:17   #
emarine
 
banjojack wrote:
Where is it legal to carry in a bar? Do not say GA, because I have heard that one before. It's not. Perhaps it is, somewhere. I don't drink, so I am not sure on that one, except for my state of issuance, and I would imagine for the 24 other states that recognize my GA permit.
In NC... where else, this is one of the new laws that popped up out of the blue... should be good fun on the weekends.... the fist fights were getting a bit boring.... just remember if you come up to enjoy a drink or two its best to bring lots of bullets cause we are real short on ammo these days. Also big labor day sale on bullet proof vests better hurry.

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Aug 30, 2013 17:17:24   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
emarine wrote:
In NC... where else, this is one of the new laws that popped up out of the blue... should be good fun on the weekends.... the fist fights were getting a bit boring.... just remember if you come up to enjoy a drink or two its best to bring lots of bullets cause we are real short on ammo these days. Also big labor day sale on bullet proof vests better hurry.


I will not say you are wrong, but there were all sorts of outcries about an imaginary law in GA saying you can carry in a bar. What it actually said is you can carry in a restaraunt that may happen to serve alchohol. Not in an establishment whose primary business is the sale of alchohol. (Bar). Since NC recognizes GA permits, the reciprocation agreements are usually between states with similar laws and requirements. I am not saying you are wrong, just giving an example of rumor run r**t.

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