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Aug 29, 2013 19:29:30   #
roy
 
who is buying up all the ammo cant even buy a bow of 22 shells anymore ammo companys running 24/7 whats going on?

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Aug 29, 2013 19:42:46   #
Glenn
 
roy wrote:
who is buying up all the ammo cant even buy a bow of 22 shells anymore ammo companys running 24/7 whats going on?

I have plenty but I bought mine back when I could get it for $10.00 per 500 round brick!
Most people just waited too long, sorry.

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Aug 29, 2013 19:57:38   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
The feds. Google it.

Glenn wrote:
I have plenty but I bought mine back when I could get it for $10.00 per 500 round brick!
Most people just waited too long, sorry.

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Aug 29, 2013 19:57:42   #
Glenn
 
Glenn wrote:
I have plenty but I bought mine back when I could get it for $10.00 per 500 round brick!
Most people just waited too long, sorry.

I have a feeling that the ammo companies aren't really operating the number of hours that they claim; I fear that they are deliberately holding back in order to scare us into willingly paying much higher prices!
I do not know your age but back in the 60's you could buy a baby ruth candy bar for 5 cents, then their was a big sugar shortage, it lasted for a year or more! The price of that same candy bar jumped to 25 cents and somehow the candy bar also shrunk to about 2/3 the original size.
Well low and behold the sugar shortage turned out to be a h**x all the time but that candy bar didn't return to it's original price or size, hell now it'll cost you a dollar! It wasn't just the one brand they all did it!
Not long after that someone tried to do a paper shortage but people refused to fall for that s**t again!
Do you see where I'm going with this?

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Aug 29, 2013 20:14:10   #
roy
 
Glenn wrote:
I have a feeling that the ammo companies aren't really operating the number of hours that they claim; I fear that they are deliberately holding back in order to scare us into willingly paying much higher prices!
I do not know your age but back in the 60's you could buy a baby ruth candy bar for 5 cents, then their was a big sugar shortage, it lasted for a year or more! The price of that same candy bar jumped to 25 cents and somehow the candy bar also shrunk to about 2/3 the original size.
Well low and behold the sugar shortage turned out to be a h**x all the time but that candy bar didn't return to it's original price or size, hell now it'll cost you a dollar! It wasn't just the one brand they all did it!
Not long after that someone tried to do a paper shortage but people refused to fall for that s**t again!
Do you see where I'm going with this?
I have a feeling that the ammo companies aren't re... (show quote)


then go check out the ammo companys what their doing go to a store that sells ammo ,theres people lined up at the doors waiting to buy what ammo has come in ,i know what things cost in the 60s,i also so know where i live in the winter the weather man says snow , and people go buy up all the bread and milk. but people can be so sucked in this country now and thats whats happening

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Aug 29, 2013 21:16:55   #
Glenn
 
roy wrote:
then go check out the ammo companys what their doing go to a store that sells ammo ,theres people lined up at the doors waiting to buy what ammo has come in ,i know what things cost in the 60s,i also so know where i live in the winter the weather man says snow , and people go buy up all the bread and milk. but people can be so sucked in this country now and thats whats happening

Roy, I think I'm still on to something!
I watched a video about I think it was Federal making .22 long rifle ammo, they could either turn out millions of rounds per day or per week, as it's been a while!
Now consider how many ammo companies make the stuff; Winchester, Remington, CCI, Lapua, Ely, PMC,Aguila, Fiocci, RWS and no telling how many more!
I still say this ammo shortage is total bull s**t!
The numbers just don't make any sense at all, there is something else going on here!
Sorry but that's my take on the situation!

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Aug 29, 2013 21:21:58   #
Glenn
 
roy wrote:
then go check out the ammo companys what their doing go to a store that sells ammo ,theres people lined up at the doors waiting to buy what ammo has come in ,i know what things cost in the 60s,i also so know where i live in the winter the weather man says snow , and people go buy up all the bread and milk. but people can be so sucked in this country now and thats whats happening

Roy I do know what you are saying about the snow and the scarcity of bread milk and other perishables, but they don't last two years, within a week everything's back to normal!

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Aug 30, 2013 05:02:37   #
roy
 
Glenn wrote:
Roy I do know what you are saying about the snow and the scarcity of bread milk and other perishables, but they don't last two years, within a week everything's back to normal!


i just know that,that i have a friend that has a uncle that works at cci and he told him they were working 3 shifts 24 hrs. if people are hoarding this much ammo,i would not want to live close to one of them. i reload a lot of shells,but really 22s are not to easy for me to do.

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Sep 7, 2013 15:12:39   #
SawedOff Loc: TEXAS!
 
It has been reported many times by industry "experts" and media, Obama is the best gun salesman in the history of the U.S. So, I guess along with that he could be considered the best ammo salesman?

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Jan 12, 2014 19:02:24   #
astrolite
 
roy wrote:
i just know that,that i have a friend that has a uncle that works at cci and he told him they were working 3 shifts 24 hrs. if people are hoarding this much ammo,i would not want to live close to one of them. i reload a lot of shells,but really 22s are not to easy for me to do.


I save the old 22 cases to make percussion caps for my black powder rifle! I'v never tried to reprime the rim on those cases! But I probably could make a machine to do it!

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Aug 29, 2015 00:44:29   #
astrolite
 
Glenn wrote:
I have a feeling that the ammo companies aren't really operating the number of hours that they claim; I fear that they are deliberately holding back in order to scare us into willingly paying much higher prices!
I do not know your age but back in the 60's you could buy a baby ruth candy bar for 5 cents, then their was a big sugar shortage, it lasted for a year or more! The price of that same candy bar jumped to 25 cents and somehow the candy bar also shrunk to about 2/3 the original size.
Well low and behold the sugar shortage turned out to be a h**x all the time but that candy bar didn't return to it's original price or size, hell now it'll cost you a dollar! It wasn't just the one brand they all did it!
Not long after that someone tried to do a paper shortage but people refused to fall for that s**t again!
Do you see where I'm going with this?
I have a feeling that the ammo companies aren't re... (show quote)


Or the Gasolene shortage in 1973-4, It turns out that the refineries had tankers full anchored outside the port but the port tanks were full, when they finally released it IT STANK, OLD GAS! In storage for many months while they played the game, then it was the Hedge Fund investors on the futures market, secretly trading in Schule while the market was closed. (That is still supposed to be secret, as it was done by our lords and masters) In the 80s when the oil patch shut down the crude was below $18 a barrel. All the profits were made between the owners and the refiners, oil optioned at $18 and traded until the refiners had to pay $39, But the futures traders insured that the oil companies got the blame! Come delivery time....they drove the price back down so they could buy all the options again! The same 27 (we aren't allowed to say who) who did it every time. But....the agenda of the c*******t party is to shut down ALL the energy sources in America....you know the rest of the agenda!

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Aug 29, 2015 07:02:07   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
One slight problem, those tankers had unrefined oil. Once it's refined the clock starts ticking.



astrolite wrote:
Or the Gasolene shortage in 1973-4, It turns out that the refineries had tankers full anchored outside the port but the port tanks were full, when they finally released it IT STANK, OLD GAS! In storage for many months while they played the game, then it was the Hedge Fund investors on the futures market, secretly trading in Schule while the market was closed. (That is still supposed to be secret, as it was done by our lords and masters) In the 80s when the oil patch shut down the crude was below $18 a barrel. All the profits were made between the owners and the refiners, oil optioned at $18 and traded until the refiners had to pay $39, But the futures traders insured that the oil companies got the blame! Come delivery time....they drove the price back down so they could buy all the options again! The same 27 (we aren't allowed to say who) who did it every time. But....the agenda of the c*******t party is to shut down ALL the energy sources in America....you know the rest of the agenda!
Or the Gasolene shortage in 1973-4, It turns out ... (show quote)

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Aug 29, 2015 08:12:12   #
astrolite
 
bmac32 wrote:
One slight problem, those tankers had unrefined oil. Once it's refined the clock starts ticking.


Not those 9 tankers waiting off Port Everglades, In Ft Lauderdale, My friend was hauling 8000 gallons a trip across the alley to this coast (120 miles) two times a day for Fleet Tank lines, they cut him to one load every other day, not enough to make his payments! One day the portmaster took him up on the "tower" and showed him the tankers! The portmaster told him they were full, but so were the millions of gallon tanks on land, he asked why? was told that the referineries that owned the "finished product" refused to sell it...yet? ( meaning...you guessed it) There NO REFINERIES IN FLORIDA, the eco-wackos WOULDN'T ALLOW IT! When they finally released it, the gas smelled "Rotten" But it had been doctored enough to sell it! For about 6 months I had quite a bit of work fixing trucks and equiptment caused by the old gas! Most of this product was refined on the gulf coast, and brought around the keys, now we have pipelines!

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Aug 29, 2015 08:32:38   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
The only thing I could find is unrefined lasted about a year. At the time I was in Iceland enjoying 32 cent gas. Worked at Air Ops and a usual day was 27 747's filling up, NY had set limits I guess because every aircraft on the northern routes stopped to get fuel. I missed all those gas lines.


astrolite wrote:
Not those 9 tankers waiting off Port Everglades, In Ft Lauderdale, My friend was hauling 8000 gallons a trip across the alley to this coast (120 miles) two times a day for Fleet Tank lines, they cut him to one load every other day, not enough to make his payments! One day the portmaster took him up on the "tower" and showed him the tankers! The portmaster told him they were full, but so were the millions of gallon tanks on land, he asked why? was told that the referineries that owned the "finished product" refused to sell it...yet? ( meaning...you guessed it) There NO REFINERIES IN FLORIDA, the eco-wackos WOULDN'T ALLOW IT! When they finally released it, the gas smelled "Rotten" But it had been doctored enough to sell it! For about 6 months I had quite a bit of work fixing trucks and equiptment caused by the old gas! Most of this product was refined on the gulf coast, and brought around the keys, now we have pipelines!
Not those 9 tankers waiting off Port Everglades, I... (show quote)

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Aug 29, 2015 09:04:53   #
astrolite
 
bmac32 wrote:
The only thing I could find is unrefined lasted about a year. At the time I was in Iceland enjoying 32 cent gas. Worked at Air Ops and a usual day was 27 747's filling up, NY had set limits I guess because every aircraft on the northern routes stopped to get fuel. I missed all those gas lines.


I lived out in the Big Cypress, (now confiscated by government and termed a preserve) I had a 500 gallon tank of AV 100 low-lead, for my Helicopter and airboat! The company I worked for 75 miles away in Miami, was allowed 80% of the fuels bought the former year, they had a good year before, so had a huge allotment, (that was just before the construction ban ) They lifted a barge out and blocked it up on piling butts, piped it into their fuel pumps and had it filled with wh**ever they were rationed! I used my own service truck out in the field, so I put in a large axillary tank. It worked for me, so I could ignore the long lines, Hours for 5 gallons! If I did run short, I could burn the AV gas, when I moved in 74, I took the remainder in 55 gallon drums, ten years later I used it in one of my planes....still fresh! Like "Marine white gas" it seems to last forever! It's not gasolene, it's benzine. Here I use it in wh**ever small engine I intend to store for a while, 6 months later it's still good, starts right up! Water pumps, chainsaws, concrete saws, mortar mixers, etc. For everyday I still use "Pump gas" the crap with 10% alcohol.

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