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Certain days taken from Israel
Aug 25, 2013 15:09:27   #
jetson
 
Feast days, Sabbaths, new moons. The Bible makes it clear. The Bible says, let no one judge you of these days. Churches argue over Saturday and Sunday over and over, about which day to worship on. Well the Bible makes it clear. It doesn't matter. Jesus Christ said he was the Sabbath. The first Church, worship on Sunday. The reason Israel lost their feast days, Sabbath worship and new moons is found in Hosea 2:11. It states, if Israel turned to idol worship God would take these things from them. That is what Israel did and exactly what God did. He drove them out, but promise He would not altogether forget them. They were allowed back in their country in 1948, but can only be saved by grace today, the same as the gentiles, though only a few have accepted it.

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Aug 25, 2013 16:20:39   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
jetson wrote:
Feast days, Sabbaths, new moons. The Bible makes it clear. The Bible says, let no one judge you of these days. Churches argue over Saturday and Sunday over and over, about which day to worship on. Well the Bible makes it clear. It doesn't matter. Jesus Christ said he was the Sabbath. The first Church, worship on Sunday. The reason Israel lost their feast days, Sabbath worship and new moons is found in Hosea 2:11. It states, if Israel turned to idol worship God would take these things from them. That is what Israel did and exactly what God did. He drove them out, but promise He would not altogether forget them. They were allowed back in their country in 1948, but can only be saved by grace today, the same as the gentiles, though only a few have accepted it.
Feast days, Sabbaths, new moons. The Bible makes... (show quote)


Your eisegesis is flawless.

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Aug 25, 2013 17:19:08   #
Douglas Loc: California
 
Heal to the Holy Land, O-Lord.

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Aug 25, 2013 21:22:34   #
bigbluecatfish
 
Modern Israel is a very wicked country. Tel Aviv is one of the main homosexual center in the world. Homosexual are protected in Israel. Both lesbian and gay are permitted to serve in the military. Their last invasion in to Palestine did not go well. Their army is not what it used to be. Maybe their Air Force and air defense is still good. Modern Israel has turned her back on god. Before the return of Christ Israel will be conquered and occupied the women raped the men k**led and all their wealth taken houses ransacked, and half forced in exile the rest will remain. Christ will return and free them. ZECHARIAH 14-1

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Aug 25, 2013 21:22:36   #
bigbluecatfish
 
Modern Israel is a very wicked country. Tel Aviv is one of the main homosexual center in the world. Homosexual are protected in Israel. Both lesbian and gay are permitted to serve in the military. Their last invasion in to Palestine did not go well. Their army is not what it used to be. Maybe their Air Force and air defense is still good. Modern Israel has turned her back on god. Before the return of Christ Israel will be conquered and occupied the women raped the men k**led and all their wealth taken houses ransacked, and half forced in exile the rest will remain. Christ will return and free them. ZECHARIAH 14-1

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Aug 25, 2013 21:43:00   #
justkillingtime
 
I am going to repost this here in hopes of getting some more worthwhile replies. Otherwise my time here is finished. This place has too many ignorant “conservatives” to make it worth my time.

In an effort to garner public support for the fledgling Jamestown Colony, on April 28, 1609 William Symonds, Lector of Christ’s Church Greyfriars London, delivered a sermon entitled “Virginea Britannia”. His Scriptural text was Genesis 12:

Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee: And I will make of thee a great nation…

(I am quoting the King James text since it is what I have on my computer; Symonds would have been using a previous t***slation, likely the Geneva Bible or the Bishops’ Bible, since the AKJ was not published until 1611.)

In June 1616 Uttamatomakkin, the priest and head advisor to Opechancanough, an Indian King in Virginia, arrived in England. During the overland journey to London Uttamatomakkin began counting all of the English he saw. But naturally he soon lost count due to their number.

When Uttamatomakkin returned to Virginia Opechancanough asked how many English there were and Uttamatomakkin told him, “to count the Stars in the sky, the leaves upon the trees, and the sand upon the seashore, for so many people…were in England.”

Compare the Indian’s words with:

Genesis 22:15-17
And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time, And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son: That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore…

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Aug 25, 2013 21:46:20   #
rumitoid
 
jetson wrote:
Feast days, Sabbaths, new moons. The Bible makes it clear. The Bible says, let no one judge you of these days. Churches argue over Saturday and Sunday over and over, about which day to worship on. Well the Bible makes it clear. It doesn't matter. Jesus Christ said he was the Sabbath. The first Church, worship on Sunday. The reason Israel lost their feast days, Sabbath worship and new moons is found in Hosea 2:11. It states, if Israel turned to idol worship God would take these things from them. That is what Israel did and exactly what God did. He drove them out, but promise He would not altogether forget them. They were allowed back in their country in 1948, but can only be saved by grace today, the same as the gentiles, though only a few have accepted it.
Feast days, Sabbaths, new moons. The Bible makes... (show quote)


I happen to trust in the Pauline explanation that makes for a New Convenant; there are those who do not. All in the law, by my understanding, where symbols of what was to come: Christ in human form. We are to "take your rest" in Christ: sabbath 24/7. The first church did not make Sunday a day of worship, another Sabbath, but a day to gather as a community. Paul attended synogogue on Saturday, in my eyes, not in obedience to the Law but as a convenient gathering place to find converts.

The Mosaic Law is not scripturally divided into three parts: this is an invention for ease of study. To say we are still under the law of the Ten Commandments but not the other two sections is biblically flawed. Christ is the substitute and completion of the Law: stay hidden in him alone. If one wants to say the Ten Commandments are still in effect for Christians, then the other two sections are as well.

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Aug 26, 2013 10:50:46   #
Navysnipe Loc: Old West
 
jetson wrote:
Feast days, Sabbaths, new moons. The Bible makes it clear. The Bible says, let no one judge you of these days. Churches argue over Saturday and Sunday over and over, about which day to worship on. Well the Bible makes it clear. It doesn't matter. Jesus Christ said he was the Sabbath. The first Church, worship on Sunday. The reason Israel lost their feast days, Sabbath worship and new moons is found in Hosea 2:11. It states, if Israel turned to idol worship God would take these things from them. That is what Israel did and exactly what God did. He drove them out, but promise He would not altogether forget them. They were allowed back in their country in 1948, but can only be saved by grace today, the same as the gentiles, though only a few have accepted it.
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Didn't Jesus say He was Lord of the Sabbath? Mathew 12:8

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Aug 26, 2013 11:12:20   #
Navysnipe Loc: Old West
 
rumitoid wrote:
I happen to trust in the Pauline explanation that makes for a New Convenant; there are those who do not. All in the law, by my understanding, where symbols of what was to come: Christ in human form. We are to "take your rest" in Christ: sabbath 24/7. The first church did not make Sunday a day of worship, another Sabbath, but a day to gather as a community. Paul attended synogogue on Saturday, in my eyes, not in obedience to the Law but as a convenient gathering place to find converts.

The Mosaic Law is not scripturally divided into three parts: this is an invention for ease of study. To say we are still under the law of the Ten Commandments but not the other two sections is biblically flawed. Christ is the substitute and completion of the Law: stay hidden in him alone. If one wants to say the Ten Commandments are still in effect for Christians, then the other two sections are as well.
I happen to trust in the Pauline explanation that ... (show quote)


The ten commandments are not part of the Mosaic law. They were written in stone by the finger of God. Deuteronomy 9:10
The Mosaic laws were written by Moses. Deuteronomy 31:9
For through the law, comes the knowledge of sin. Romans 3:20.
How do we know what sin is without the 10 commandments?

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Aug 26, 2013 11:45:41   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
Navysnipe wrote:
Didn't Jesus say He was Lord of the Sabbath? Mathew 12:8


Not only did he say he was Lord of the Sabbath, but he also stated that the Sabbath was made for man. Which makes the Sabbath a portion of God's grace to man. A gift undeserved.

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Aug 26, 2013 21:36:06   #
bigbluecatfish
 
I think I got your point after reading it the second time. It is hard for this old ignorant ex timber cutter, coal miner, farm-hand and taxi driver with an eighth grade education. But I have learned many thing on my own. I take offense to you calling me an ignorant conservative. I have a vocabulary that matches the best of them. I have read all the books that all you elite read. I am glad I did not go to any 15 cent liberal college after I see how they think. I am proud to be an ignorant conservative. Liberal have done nothing good for the country. But lots of bad: Got prayer kick out of our school(2) Destroy our military by allowing homosexual and sex perverts (3) Pulled mother out of home destroying our children (4) And a whole host of other evil things. The new deal was good for worker, I do not consider this as part of the liberal agenda. The conservative build this great country. Liberal have done everything to destroy it. Yes I know the black s***e contributed some by picking the cotton before the civil war.

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