Glenn

Oldschool, if you will notice I was responding to Lou, not you, sorry if you misunderstood!

Glenn

TEA; Taxed Enough Already, party

OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!

Sorry about that.

Lou Loc: Florida

Should I use the term suckups to big oil ?

OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!

Just to educate you on what the Tea party is all about, because I have read enough of your posts to realize you're clueless about what it stands for.

The Tea Party movement draws people from all political stripes, social causes, and income brackets. It draws people who have never participated in any kind of political or grassroots movement before. What they have in common, and what holds them together, is a very deep love for the uniqueness of the United States of America, a desire for the limited government that our Founding Fathers created, a fairly "strict" interpretation of the Constitution, a belief in capitalism and free enterprise and a strong sense of personal responsibility. The Tea party Movement does not endorse one particular solution, candidate, or party.

The issues and ideas that are at the core of the Tea Party movement:

1) All forms of government must abide by the boundaries set forth in state and federal constitutions.

2) All pork and earmarks in the stimulus, omnibus bills, and bailouts must be reversed and repealed. The national budget must be balanced. Spending cuts, not increased taxation should be used to balance the budget.

3) Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of happiness implies personal responsibility, not handouts, free-enterprise and capitalism, not government controlled economies. Some people choose to be irresponsible (and of course some fall on hard times due to circumstances), but it is not the responsibility of the general public, vis-a-vis government intervention, to guarantee or bailout irresponsibility and failure. Private individuals and organizations give out of compassion and generosity, not compulsion through taxation laws, and pork barrel projects.

4) ALL elected and appointed officials are under the employment and serve at the will of We the People.

5) Excessive tax burdens k**l prosperity.

6) Excessive national debt is generational theft, and stealing the future of our children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren.

7) Neither major political party is "clean" on these issues. Both Democrats and Republicans have taxed excessively and neither have restrained the hand of government effectively. There are certainly individual representatives who have been faithful to their constituents and to the Constitution. However, too many are engaged in protecting their congressional positions and turf. The majority of government officials have insulated themselves from the people they serve, and hold themselves above the law. We are simply saying, "No, you aren't above the law."

8 ) The American public at large is ignorant of the purpose of government, the founding documents such as the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the Federalist Papers. As a result, they allow politicians to sell them false hope and "rights" and "entitlements" that are not guaranteed by the Constitution. By educating the American people on the foundations of our history, we hope to bring sanity to the e******n and legislative processes.

9) As a group, we are appalled at the audaciousness and arrogance of our government in the last few years, particularly the proposals and bills passed in the last few months, despite massive public disapproval.

So Lou, are you saying you are against those ideals?

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Have you on the left decided where we put the used up batteries? I think that those things are going to be a bugger to store for the future.

Lou Loc: Florida

You need not educate me on what the Tea party is all about . I know full well what it is all about . And although you spit out noble and high standards , nio politician , no not even Tea party candidates and those elected lives by them .
Unfortunately the Tea party has chosen the position to deny science and technology over servitude to big oil , tax cuts for the rich on the backs of the middle class, YOUR MORALS over everyone elses .
A perfect example of the tea party willingness to bring down the country and economy if their specific policies are not adapted is already self evident , by a failure to reach any consensus or compromise to the point of the present Sequestration , the downgrading of the US credit rating , and the threat of blocking any future budget resolution .
You deny facts deny science and Technology, in this discussion in favor of your highly partisan [and childish ] politics . Scientific American , the Upper Colorado River Authority are NON-PARTISAN .They are simoply stating the present hydrological and geological reality that presently exists in that region . FACT -there is a prolonged drought in progress with no signs of easing / FACT The Colorado River itself is in danger due to over damming and over diversion , so much so that the States involved are and have been engaged in water rights and disputes / FACT Major cities in the region face water crisis / FACT several town already are depending on water being shipped in to drink . /FACT the present technology incorporated in fracking wastes tremendous volumes of water a resource in that region that is under serious stress . FACT water used in fracking is NON RENEWABLE ,it can not be recovered or reused for anything .
And HERE YOU COME WITH YOUR B>S> CHARGE THAT THIS IS SOMEHOW L*****T ?????

THAT IS WHAT YOU AND YOUR TEAPARTY IS ALL ABOUT - PURPOSED IGNORANCE AND DENIAL .
So save all your lofty bullshheeet for someone who affords you any credulity . Soon the people in those regions will lose their farms and have to packup and leave their towns for lack of water , and it won't be " the left " to blame , it will be REALITY , something that seems to be alien to Tea Party Lackeys like yourself

Lou Loc: Florida

oldroy , you are such a moron , I'm not even gonna bother .

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

I guess a 20 ft. container would make for some very long autos? Come on Lou, I thought we were talking about batteries. Is it true that all of them, so far, are of the lithium variety and nobody knows where we will store the used up lithiums.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

In other words you either don't know or don't want to share the outstanding knowledge you have with me. How do I learn anything you know if you keep it to yourself?

Lou Loc: Florida

No roy it means you're a moron .

Glenn

oldroy, I don't think LOU is stupid I just think he has a disconnect somewhere between He and Himself, you know like the old one about the loose nut between the steering wheel and the seat!
Notice he brags about technology in one sentence and then berates it in the next!
You know just been sucking Obama hind tit too long. Stuff gets into his eyes and he thinks it is milk!

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Most of what he does is aimed at deflection from anything we of the right say and that tells me that he may well be Saul Alinsky's grand son or something like that.

Lou Loc: Florida

No disconnect glen , but if oldroy wants to play stupid , he can waste your time not mine .
You been spending too much time watching Fox and Hannity Glen , I neither bragged about nor berated technology , technology is what it is . Fracking in the west in veiew of their present water crisis is bad technology .
Battery operated cars [not big Semis ] are going to be here to stay . Get used to it , renewable energy is coming of age , and solar , wind , and chemical di-electrics will be used and eventually replace f****l f**ls .

Try unglueing yourself from the internet and fox tv and read Science News ,Scientific American , Modern Technology , Popular Mechanics or Popular Science . You may be able to get a grip on reality . This stuff is neither "left " nor "right " , there's a great big world out there , outside of your small -minded politics .

OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!

No use discussing anything of any substance with you. For you, it's full steam ahead right off the cliff with the rest of the lemmings.