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Jul 2, 2015 19:55:33   #
WARRIOR
 
That all Republican and Democrat politicians in DC, as well as the Supreme Court and the corporate elitists are Godless?
They obviously believe that their senior positions and wealth will save them from the consequences of their lawless actions.
Along with the homosexual community, do they really believe God is on their side, He is NOT! " God will not be mocked "
There will be a price to pay for all of us. Us, because we let it happen, we don't fight back,we are complacent, lack luster, ready to accommodate evil in our midst.
God established this great nation, we have turned our back on Him and will reap the reward, but I do not think it is to late if we Christians, I mean all of us ,make a stand for our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

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Jul 3, 2015 11:24:25   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
WARRIOR wrote:
That all Republican and Democrat politicians in DC, as well as the Supreme Court and the corporate elitists are Godless?
They obviously believe that their senior positions and wealth will save them from the consequences of their lawless actions.
Along with the homosexual community, do they really believe God is on their side, He is NOT! " God will not be mocked "
There will be a price to pay for all of us. Us, because we let it happen, we don't fight back,we are complacent, lack luster, ready to accommodate evil in our midst.
God established this great nation, we have turned our back on Him and will reap the reward, but I do not think it is to late if we Christians, I mean all of us ,make a stand for our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
That all Republican and Democrat politicians in DC... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: I feel your pain along with millions of Christians who, many like myself have been fighting and will fight to the death if necessary. I have been outspoken, joined with many to pray, written, telephoned, e-mailed and petitioned all members of govt. I stockpile weapons and ammo. I join forums. I vote. There are millions of us in America alone. But let us also remember God may have no plans whatsoever to rescue America. We may be in the end times that He has told us about. If so, let it be. His will be done. But on the other hand He may grant us another chance to return to Him as a nation. I will continue to be active. However, as His children we must accept His will whatever that is. God bless you and God bless America and God bless all persecuted Christians around the world.

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Jul 4, 2015 09:38:43   #
waltmoreno
 
The US, which is the progeny of ancient Israel, has turned its back on God, just as ancient Israel did. Except that, with ancient Israel, the lost ten tribes were scattered by the assyrians, eventually crossing over the Caucasus mountains, hence becoming caucasians who eventually migrated to the US, where they eventually fulfilled Daniel's timeline prophecy and became the most powerful nation on earth precisely on schedule - the late 1800s and early part of the 1900s. But most recently the US has not only turned their back on God, they have spit in God's face with homosexuals dancing in the streets openly declaring and advertising their sin as Sodom. (Isaiah 3). So we have babes ruling us. Alas, there is no place left on planet earth for Abraham's seed to go anymore. We were the last best hope for man on planet earth. And now, instead of being simply scattered, as ancient Israel was when they turned their back on God, we will see the end of this earth age during this generation, exactly as Jesus prophesied when asked by his apostles, when He would return. (Matthew 24, Mark 13). After giving them signs to watch for including famine (not for bread, but for hearing the word of God - Amos 8:11 explains), Jesus ordered his apostles to learn the parable of the fig tree, which symbolizes Israel, as explained in Jeremiah 24. Jesus continued his answer and said, "When her branch is yet tender and she puts forth leaves you know that summer is near. Likewise when you see these things, you know that my return is near, even at the door. This generation will not pass until all these things be fulfilled." Meaning that in the generation when Israel became a nation again (1948) after being dispersed for many centuries, Jesus will return. So the generation of the fig tree began in 1948 and that generation will witness the return of Christ. We're already 67 years into that generation and we see prophecy unfold around us daily with the famine for hearing God's word, with Sodom all around us, etc. So fasten your seat belts, and get right with God, because the end of this earth age will occur within his generation.

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Jul 4, 2015 09:47:00   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
waltmoreno wrote:
The US, which is the progeny of ancient Israel, has turned its back on God, just as ancient Israel did. Except that, with ancient Israel, the lost ten tribes were scattered by the assyrians, eventually crossing over the Caucasus mountains, hence becoming caucasians who eventually migrated to the US, where they eventually fulfilled Daniel's timeline prophecy and became the most powerful nation on earth precisely on schedule - the late 1800s and early part of the 1900s. But most recently the US has not only turned their back on God, they have spit in God's face with homosexuals dancing in the streets openly declaring and advertising their sin as Sodom. (Isaiah 3). So we have babes ruling us. Alas, there is no place left on planet earth for Abraham's seed to go anymore. We were the last best hope for man on planet earth. And now, instead of being simply scattered, as ancient Israel was when they turned their back on God, we will see the end of this earth age during this generation, exactly as Jesus prophesied when asked by his apostles, when He would return. (Matthew 24, Mark 13). After giving them signs to watch for including famine (not for bread, but for hearing the word of God - Amos 8:11 explains), Jesus ordered his apostles to learn the parable of the fig tree, which symbolizes Israel, as explained in Jeremiah 24. Jesus continued his answer and said, "When her branch is yet tender and she puts forth leaves you know that summer is near. Likewise when you see these things, you know that my return is near, even at the door. This generation will not pass until all these things be fulfilled." Meaning that in the generation when Israel became a nation again (1948) after being dispersed for many centuries, Jesus will return. So the generation of the fig tree began in 1948 and that generation will witness the return of Christ. We're already 67 years into that generation and we see prophecy unfold around us daily with the famine for hearing God's word, with Sodom all around us, etc. So fasten your seat belts, and get right with God, because the end of this earth age will occur within his generation.
The US, which is the progeny of ancient Israel, ha... (show quote)


Soon. Very soon. Come Lord Jesus. Come quickly.

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Jul 5, 2015 05:48:43   #
fiatlux
 
WARRIOR wrote:
That all Republican and Democrat politicians in DC, as well as the Supreme Court and the corporate elitists are Godless?
They obviously believe that their senior positions and wealth will save them from the consequences of their lawless actions.
Along with the homosexual community, do they really believe God is on their side, He is NOT! " God will not be mocked "
There will be a price to pay for all of us. Us, because we let it happen, we don't fight back,we are complacent, lack luster, ready to accommodate evil in our midst.
God established this great nation, we have turned our back on Him and will reap the reward, but I do not think it is to late if we Christians, I mean all of us ,make a stand for our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
That all Republican and Democrat politicians in DC... (show quote)


It is too late, sorry. Your Christian stance got this nation in this mess, trying not to let it happen. Rely on spirit and grace next time.

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Jul 5, 2015 16:40:27   #
waltmoreno
 
fiatlux wrote:
It is too late, sorry. Your Christian stance got this nation in this mess, trying not to let it happen. Rely on spirit and grace next time.


It was precisely our Christian stance, and our worship of the one true God of Abraham, that led us to becoming the most powerful nation on earth in the late 1800s, early and mid 1900s precisely as prophesied by Daniel and right on schedule. It was our turning from God in the 60s and ultimately spitting on his face in 2015 which will cause Him to turn His back on us and lift the veil of protection He has placed around us. Then the swarm of locusts (assyrians) will overrun us just as they did with ancient Israel.

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Jul 5, 2015 17:57:50   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
waltmoreno wrote:
It was precisely our Christian stance, and our worship of the one true God of Abraham, that led us to becoming the most powerful nation on earth in the late 1800s, early and mid 1900s precisely as prophesied by Daniel and right on schedule. It was our turning from God in the 60s and ultimately spitting on his face in 2015 which will cause Him to turn His back on us and lift the veil of protection He has placed around us. Then the swarm of locusts (assyrians) will overrun us just as they did with ancient Israel.
It was precisely our Christian stance, and our wor... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Thank you brother.

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Jul 5, 2015 18:55:17   #
fiatlux
 
WARRIOR wrote:
That all Republican and Democrat politicians in DC, as well as the Supreme Court and the corporate elitists are Godless?
They obviously believe that their senior positions and wealth will save them from the consequences of their lawless actions.
Along with the homosexual community, do they really believe God is on their side, He is NOT! " God will not be mocked "
There will be a price to pay for all of us. Us, because we let it happen, we don't fight back,we are complacent, lack luster, ready to accommodate evil in our midst.
God established this great nation, we have turned our back on Him and will reap the reward, but I do not think it is to late if we Christians, I mean all of us ,make a stand for our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
That all Republican and Democrat politicians in DC... (show quote)


God established ancient Rome and modern Iran. We cannot turn our backs on nations, only God. Making a stand for God has one quality: love. "Love, and do what you will."

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Jul 6, 2015 10:42:02   #
waltmoreno
 
fiatlux wrote:
God established ancient Rome and modern Iran. We cannot turn our backs on nations, only God. Making a stand for God has one quality: love. "Love, and do what you will."


You're confused. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob didn't establish ancient Rome nor modern Iran. And your babbling about love likewise makes no sense. God deliberately confused the language of the workmen building the tower of ancient Babylon because they erroneously thought that, through their own power, they could build a tower to the heavens and save themselves from another flood.
Babel is the noise a baby makes when first discovering his voice. More precisely the baby will 'babel-on'. And as used in God's Word, Babylon today means confusion. If the shoe fits...

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Jul 7, 2015 02:31:59   #
fiatlux
 
WARRIOR wrote:
That all Republican and Democrat politicians in DC, as well as the Supreme Court and the corporate elitists are Godless?
They obviously believe that their senior positions and wealth will save them from the consequences of their lawless actions.
Along with the homosexual community, do they really believe God is on their side, He is NOT! " God will not be mocked "
There will be a price to pay for all of us. Us, because we let it happen, we don't fight back,we are complacent, lack luster, ready to accommodate evil in our midst.
God established this great nation, we have turned our back on Him and will reap the reward, but I do not think it is to late if we Christians, I mean all of us ,make a stand for our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
That all Republican and Democrat politicians in DC... (show quote)


God established this great nation--and the great nations of Japan, China, Russia, Iran, Iraq, Nigeria, and so forth. We make our stand for the lord in what we do for the least of these, not any nation.

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Jul 8, 2015 22:33:27   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
waltmoreno wrote:
You're confused. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob didn't establish ancient Rome nor modern Iran. And your babbling about love likewise makes no sense. God deliberately confused the language of the workmen building the tower of ancient Babylon because they erroneously thought that, through their own power, they could build a tower to the heavens and save themselves from another flood.
Babel is the noise a baby makes when first discovering his voice. More precisely the baby will 'babel-on'. And as used in God's Word, Babylon today means confusion. If the shoe fits...
You're confused. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Ja... (show quote)


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1st, you've spelled the word 2 different ways. The word is spelled, "babbel" (with 2 "b's"). 2nd, as is stated in many dictionaries, the etymology of the English word "babbel" is derived from the Babel from the Tower of Babylon. But, why then, do other languages not refer to it in a similar fashion? The French word for "babbel," is "charlabia." Their word for a baby's babbel/gibberish doesn't look like "babel" in anyway shape or form.

In Spanish, the word is, "galimatías." Again, there is no reference or inference to Babylon. Plus, the etymologies of the French and Spanish words make no reference to Babylon, either. Only the English word does.

You should know, that by castigating and trying to make fun of flatlux over the etymology of various words, instead of actually trying to prove your point, only shows the weakness of your arguments.

And, would God, in His infinite knowledge of ALL things, past, present and future, not have caused the formation of these empires in His plan for His people? While we have our "free will," He already knows our choices. As such, had/has He not already prepared His reaction(s) to Israel's action(s)? As God is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient, He is fully aware of what we're going to do, even before we, ourselves, do.

While we argue, fuss and fight over politics and religion, He already knows what we're going to do and what He's going to do with us from now and on into eternity; even though we have no clue to what we're going to do tomorrow; let alone next week, or next month, or next year, or pick any measurement of time.

To me, I find that truly awesome and very intimidating. My only hope is that His grace will carry me on through the rest of my days.

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Jul 8, 2015 22:47:49   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
alabuck wrote:
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1st, you've spelled the word 2 different ways. The word is spelled, "babbel" (with 2 "b's"). 2nd, as is stated in many dictionaries, the etymology of the English word "babbel" is derived from the Babel from the Tower of Babylon. But, why then, do other languages not refer to it in a similar fashion? The French word for "babbel," is "charlabia." Their word for a baby's babbel/gibberish doesn't look like "babel" in anyway shape or form.

In Spanish, the word is, "galimatías." Again, there is no reference or inference to Babylon. Plus, the etymologies of the French and Spanish words make no reference to Babylon, either. Only the English word does.

You should know, that by castigating and trying to make fun of flatlux over the etymology of various words, instead of actually trying to prove your point, only shows the weakness of your arguments.

And, would God, in His infinite knowledge of ALL things, past, present and future, not have caused the formation of these empires in His plan for His people? While we have our "free will," He already knows our choices. As such, had/has He not already prepared His reaction(s) to Israel's action(s)? As God is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient, He is fully aware of what we're going to do, even before we, ourselves, do.

While we argue, fuss and fight over politics and religion, He already knows what we're going to do and what He's going to do with us from now and on into eternity; even though we have no clue to what we're going to do tomorrow; let alone next week, or next month, or next year, or pick any measurement of time.

To me, I find that truly awesome and very intimidating. My only hope is that His grace will carry me on through the rest of my days.
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:thumbup: Me too. I want to be desperate for Him everyday.

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Jul 8, 2015 23:48:06   #
waltmoreno
 
alabuck wrote:
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1st, you've spelled the word 2 different ways. The word is spelled, "babbel" (with 2 "b's"). 2nd, as is stated in many dictionaries, the etymology of the English word "babbel" is derived from the Babel from the Tower of Babylon. But, why then, do other languages not refer to it in a similar fashion? The French word for "babbel," is "charlabia." Their word for a baby's babbel/gibberish doesn't look like "babel" in anyway shape or form.

In Spanish, the word is, "galimatías." Again, there is no reference or inference to Babylon. Plus, the etymologies of the French and Spanish words make no reference to Babylon, either. Only the English word does.

You should know, that by castigating and trying to make fun of flatlux over the etymology of various words, instead of actually trying to prove your point, only shows the weakness of your arguments.

And, would God, in His infinite knowledge of ALL things, past, present and future, not have caused the formation of these empires in His plan for His people? While we have our "free will," He already knows our choices. As such, had/has He not already prepared His reaction(s) to Israel's action(s)? As God is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient, He is fully aware of what we're going to do, even before we, ourselves, do.

While we argue, fuss and fight over politics and religion, He already knows what we're going to do and what He's going to do with us from now and on into eternity; even though we have no clue to what we're going to do tomorrow; let alone next week, or next month, or next year, or pick any measurement of time.

To me, I find that truly awesome and very intimidating. My only hope is that His grace will carry me on through the rest of my days.
------------ br 1st, you've spelled the word 2 dif... (show quote)


We've been given free will precisely because God wants to know which souls loves Him. This Second Earth Age is a test for all souls since a third of them/us rebelled and sided with Satan in the First Earth Age. So, our destiny is in our hands in this flesh age, but we can with the unmerited grace of Jesus, attain salvation. God is omnipotent but he doesn't know what each of us will choose individually.

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Jul 9, 2015 00:46:03   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
waltmoreno wrote:
We've been given free will precisely because God wants to know which souls loves Him. This Second Earth Age is a test for all souls since a third of them/us rebelled and sided with Satan in the First Earth Age. So, our destiny is in our hands in this flesh age, but we can with the unmerited grace of Jesus, attain salvation. God is omnipotent but he doesn't know what each of us will choose individually.


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I would contend that God already knows which souls love Him. Did not Jesus know what Judas would do? Did He not know that Peter would deny Him 3 times? These are just 2 examples of His awareness of events. There are several more.

And, I totally disagree with you that God, "... doesn't know what each of us will choose individually." Omniscience means God is "all-knowing." This means God knows everything, including the past and future. There is nothing God is unaware of. To say otherwise would deny that characteristic of Him and deny part of His divinity.

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Jul 9, 2015 01:33:51   #
ColdDrink
 
WARRIOR wrote:
That all Republican and Democrat politicians in DC, as well as the Supreme Court and the corporate elitists are Godless?
They obviously believe that their senior positions and wealth will save them from the consequences of their lawless actions.
Along with the homosexual community, do they really believe God is on their side, He is NOT! " God will not be mocked "
There will be a price to pay for all of us. Us, because we let it happen, we don't fight back,we are complacent, lack luster, ready to accommodate evil in our midst.
God established this great nation, we have turned our back on Him and will reap the reward, but I do not think it is to late if we Christians, I mean all of us ,make a stand for our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
That all Republican and Democrat politicians in DC... (show quote)


I agree about taking a stand but would like to have your ideas about how, where, and when? Okay when is answered: Now! Yet some suggestions would be good for how and where.

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