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Jun 22, 2015 04:42:42   #
jelun
 
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Jul 5, 2015 00:07:37   #
fiatlux
 
jelun wrote:
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Flags are by nature unavoidably narrow-minded, prejudiced, cold-blooded, suspicious, defensive, adamant, two-faced, unscrupulous, and every negative you can imagine. And we pledge allegiance to that?

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Jul 5, 2015 07:18:33   #
jelun
 
fiatlux wrote:
Flags are by nature unavoidably narrow-minded, prejudiced, cold-blooded, suspicious, defensive, adamant, two-faced, unscrupulous, and every negative you can imagine. And we pledge allegiance to that?



I would argue that flags are inanimate and have the attributes that the person who views it brings to the party.
My favorite symbol of the US is the Statue of Liberty. Yours?





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Jul 5, 2015 19:32:44   #
fiatlux
 
jelun wrote:
I would argue that flags are inanimate and have the attributes that the person who views it brings to the party.
My favorite symbol of the US is the Statue of Liberty. Yours?


A gay parade.

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Jul 6, 2015 02:41:52   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
fiatlux wrote:
Flags are by nature unavoidably narrow-minded, prejudiced, cold-blooded, suspicious, defensive, adamant, two-faced, unscrupulous, and every negative you can imagine. And we pledge allegiance to that?


First post I read in this section and I like it already.

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Jul 6, 2015 03:02:18   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
jelun wrote:
I would argue that flags are inanimate and have the attributes that the person who views it brings to the party.
My favorite symbol of the US is the Statue of Liberty. Yours?


I'm partial to the Statue of Liberty too. She presents an image of strength and courage but is also very nurturing and inviting. I also like that she is a gift from France, presented to us to celebrate our new liberty.

As for flags... I always fly the Betsy Ross on the 4th. I do that because that was the flag that was flying on the day the colonists declared their independence, which is of course the day we celebrate. The other reason is that the current flag represents everything the colonists were fighting against. It just seems a bit hypocritical to commemorate a revolution for liberty by saluting the flag of tyranny.

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Jul 6, 2015 06:05:06   #
jelun
 
fiatlux wrote:
A gay parade.



No flags? ;)

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Jul 6, 2015 09:39:15   #
Anigav6969
 
straightUp wrote:
I'm partial to the Statue of Liberty too. She presents an image of strength and courage but is also very nurturing and inviting. I also like that she is a gift from France, presented to us to celebrate our new liberty.

As for flags... I always fly the Betsy Ross on the 4th. I do that because that was the flag that was flying on the day the colonists declared their independence, which is of course the day we celebrate. The other reason is that the current flag represents everything the colonists were fighting against. It just seems a bit hypocritical to commemorate a revolution for liberty by saluting the flag of tyranny.
I'm partial to the Statue of Liberty too. She pres... (show quote)


Hey Straightup, glad to see you here....the section just started, so I think it will take a little while to get going. I guess it's a bit of a sanctuary from the crazies..if someone comes on and posts inappropriate insults, the post gets taken down. How cool is that ? Although, the truth is, we all enjoy the arguing as well. That's why the " main" section is so popular....but I'm glad Jelun started this section. I'll continue to let people know....enjoy

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Jul 6, 2015 11:00:40   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
Hey Straightup, glad to see you here....the section just started, so I think it will take a little while to get going. I guess it's a bit of a sanctuary from the crazies..if someone comes on and posts inappropriate insults, the post gets taken down. How cool is that ? Although, the truth is, we all enjoy the arguing as well. That's why the " main" section is so popular....but I'm glad Jelun started this section. I'll continue to let people know....enjoy


Yeah, thanks for pointing it out for me... It's funny though, I don't want to admit it but I really do like confronting the right-wing extremists. But it's nice to have a section where more complex issues might be explored without being hindered by juvenile antics and the never ending parroting of the same handful of discredited misconceptions.

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Jul 6, 2015 13:16:31   #
Anigav6969
 
straightUp wrote:
Yeah, thanks for pointing it out for me... It's funny though, I don't want to admit it but I really do like confronting the right-wing extremists. But it's nice to have a section where more complex issues might be explored without being hindered by juvenile antics and the never ending parroting of the same handful of discredited misconceptions.


I agree 100%.... See you out there

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Jul 7, 2015 05:33:51   #
fiatlux
 
jelun wrote:
No flags? ;)


Are there flags for abortion?

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Jul 7, 2015 09:24:31   #
Anigav6969
 
straightUp wrote:
Yeah, thanks for pointing it out for me... It's funny though, I don't want to admit it but I really do like confronting the right-wing extremists. But it's nice to have a section where more complex issues might be explored without being hindered by juvenile antics and the never ending parroting of the same handful of discredited misconceptions.


Speaking of right-wing extremists, I have to laugh at that thread you started " the ACA is here to stay" ...forget AO, he's an idiot......I cannot believe " voice of Reason" and economistDon.....these people are supposed to be intelligent....did you read that last post from economist ? I'm just amazed at these people

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Jul 10, 2015 11:29:17   #
classlessoo
 
jelun wrote:
I would argue that flags are inanimate and have the attributes that the person who views it brings to the party.
My favorite symbol of the US is the Statue of Liberty. Yours?



You use the clenched fist of communism in your first pic.and then you use the gay flag which represents a mental disorder.Stalin put gays in gulags and worked them to death.I think your sending mixed messages or are confused.

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Jul 10, 2015 17:20:14   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
straightUp wrote:
Yeah, thanks for pointing it out for me... It's funny though, I don't want to admit it but I really do like confronting the right-wing extremists. But it's nice to have a section where more complex issues might be explored without being hindered by juvenile antics and the never ending parroting of the same handful of discredited misconceptions.


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Well said, straightUp! I, too, enjoy a good debate with the "reich-wingers." Lord knows, I've had a few; "theo" being the latest. It's very sad that they use the Bible to justify their very racist views. Plus, no matter how much one shows them the error of their way(s), they'll deny, deny, deny that they're the one who's wrong.

My biggest complaint against them is that they can't accept an opposing point of view without calling their opponent a communist, socialist, liberal, un-American, and un-Christian. I've been called a ni**er-lover, an Obama-lover, and a traitor to my white race. I've even had my military service questioned and accused of being a traitor to my country because I recognized the legitimacy of President Obama's presidency.

These reich-wingers never continue to amaze me with their inability to debate without losing their religion in one form or fashion. That's assuming they had one to begin with.

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Jul 16, 2015 06:35:16   #
jelun
 
fiatlux wrote:
Are there flags for abortion?



I don't get a connection between the joyful flag of freedom to declare that one is able to identify the self and the solemn choice to have an abortion.

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