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Jul 22, 2013 19:27:38   #
bahmer
 
AuntiE wrote:
The severe number of misperceptions about this issue are beyond astounding. You would think these people will loose their food stamps next week. Minimally, SNAP is fully funded through September 2013. This is NOT a program that will be allowed to lapse. It is just so much kletsheok brought to you by Charlie Rangel (D-NY) and his fellow travelers.


Here is one from Mark Twain enjoy.
Mark Twain on the Entitlement Mentality

Written on Monday, July 22, 2013 by David L. Goetsch

mark twain
End of Obama

Mark Twain specified that his autobiography not be released until he had been dead for 100 years. He wanted to make sure that everyone he insulted in his final work would also be dead, along with close relatives. The autobiography is out now and there are plenty of the dead and buried insulted in it. But one group he insults is not only still alive—it’s growing by leaps and bounds. This group consists of people who look to nanny government for their sustenance, a group that has come to be known as the entitlement generation.

In his autobiography Twain comments that “Any man who is satisfied to be fed by another man rather than by the honest sweat of his own brow should be shot.” Twain cites numerous occasions in his life when he was taken advantage of while trying to do a good deed for another man. Twain’s well-intentioned deeds typically consisted of providing for people who claimed to be down on their luck. In variably, the person “helped” did not appreciate the help, did not pay back the money Twain loaned him, and did not change his profligate ways. This situation should sound familiar to anyone aware of what has happened to America during the Obama administration. In fact, if Mark Twain were still alive he would be aghast to learn that the phenomenon he decried has become an accepted and acceptable way of life in America.

Twain, never one to treat politicians gently, would have much to say about President Obama and so-called progressive liberals who not only condone the entitlement mentality, but promulgate it as a political strategy for gaining and retaining power. I am sure he would also have a word or two to say about Americans who think the government—that is to say the American taxpayer—owes them a living. If Mark Twain could come back from the grave he would find an America much changed from the one he knew. Twain’s was a more self-reliant America in which those who were truly down on their luck looked to charity for help, not the government, and those who could work did.

Mark Twain and people of his era knew instinctively that to allow a man to live off the earnings of others was to rob that man of his dignity, ambition, and self-worth, not to mention robbing the giver of his hard-earned income. They also knew that when dealing with people you get more of what you reward. Reward sloth through government entitlements or any other means and you will get more sloth. It is really that simple. The entitlement mentality is more addictive than cocaine and it can spread faster than a v***s. Allow a man to get used to being idle and he will want to be idle forever. Reward idleness with government entitlements and people will make a living from being idle.

Laziness, sloth, and idleness are concepts that even the most ignorant, uneducated, unsk**led individual is born knowing how to exploit to his advantage. People who will not exert even an ounce of initiative, drive, or energy to take care of themselves will exert enormous effort, motivation, and innovation when it comes to playing the system to get the most for doing the least. These entitled individuals then sire large numbers of entitled youngsters—usually out of wedlock—who grow up with the entitlement mentality instilled at their mothers’ breasts. Mark Twain might have over stated his solution to this problem somewhat, but he at least recognized the need for a solution.

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Jul 22, 2013 19:33:47   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Smiley881 wrote:
The U.S has deals with Mexico through the Free Trade
Agreements.I have even heard that the U.S is 13 billion dollars
in dept to Mexico.Obama did say he couldn't have 50 states
making up their own I*********n l*ws.He stated the reason
he couldn't was because the Undocumented might retaliate
because of what they feel the U.S.owes them.See the U.S.
got these free Trade Agreements started in the first place.
The U.S.government told other countries sign this and your
Country will prosper.Citizens are saying to the Undocumented
dont look at us we are in the same shape.The U.S.doesn't have
enough resources.Another Country cant take care of a whole
other Country.
The U.S has deals with Mexico through the Free Tra... (show quote)


That's what we've been telling Congress. Do you really want to see the financial and employment havoc that i******s are causing this country? A good place to start would be to Google Numbers, USA. You appear concerned about the employment situation, this site will give you facts and figures from the government, that the government hopes you won't look at.

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Jul 22, 2013 20:40:29   #
Smiley881 Loc: San Leandro,CA.
 
I am with Numbers USA.

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Jul 23, 2013 08:17:32   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Smiley881 wrote:
The U.S has deals with Mexico through the Free Trade
Agreements.I have even heard that the U.S is 13 billion dollars
in dept to Mexico.Obama did say he couldn't have 50 states
making up their own I*********n l*ws.He stated the reason
he couldn't was because the Undocumented might retaliate
because of what they feel the U.S.owes them.See the U.S.
got these free Trade Agreements started in the first place.
The U.S.government told other countries sign this and your
Country will prosper.Citizens are saying to the Undocumented
dont look at us we are in the same shape.The U.S.doesn't have
enough resources.Another Country cant take care of a whole
other Country.
The U.S has deals with Mexico through the Free Tra... (show quote)


Misinformed on too many levels to even respond

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Jul 24, 2013 00:43:05   #
Smiley881 Loc: San Leandro,CA.
 
Here is a link on the NAFTA
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement

Obama once said that the Free Trade Agreements don't
have a clause in them to protect American Jobs.

The U.S. is having a ball keeping Americans ignorant
of whats going on and pitting people against one another.

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Jul 24, 2013 04:46:19   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Smiley881 wrote:
Here is a link on the NAFTA
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement

Obama once said that the Free Trade Agreements don't
have a clause in them to protect American Jobs.

The U.S. is having a ball keeping Americans ignorant
of whats going on and pitting people against one another.


Of course they are. That's how they get away with it. Legislative sleight of hand. Once more, There is nothing wrong with some government help. I needed it myself, some time ago, while I was rehabbing from a severe injury and four surgeries. I don't get food stamps now, but for about a year I did. The point is, I did not make a career out of it. I have also paid more than enough income tax, I feel, to be able to
get a little help when I'm in physical therapy. This does not mean I condone i******s and homegrown professional baby factories receiving hand outs. These systems were originally intended to be a helping hand for responsible people who were on temporary hard times. As with most government programs, it has morphed into a bureaucratic monster.

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Jul 24, 2013 08:20:51   #
bahmer
 
banjojack wrote:
Of course they are. That's how they get away with it. Legislative sleight of hand. Once more, There is nothing wrong with some government help. I needed it myself, some time ago, while I was rehabbing from a severe injury and four surgeries. I don't get food stamps now, but for about a year I did. The point is, I did not make a career out of it. I have also paid more than enough income tax, I feel, to be able to
get a little help when I'm in physical therapy. This does not mean I condone i******s and homegrown professional baby factories receiving hand outs. These systems were originally intended to be a helping hand for responsible people who were on temporary hard times. As with most government programs, it has morphed into a bureaucratic monster.
Of course they are. That's how they get away with ... (show quote)


Right on I can remember when I was young and starting out there were some times in there when my wife and I needed some assistance and we were almost to ashamed to ask. But I also remember paying it back because we went to a family member. I can also remember others who also felt ashamed to ask for help. As this was originally sold by LBJ it was to eliminate poverty and help these people get back on their feet again. I believe we have as much if not more poverty today percentage wise than we did back then. I also believe that the problem is on both sides, the government employee doesn't want to lose their job so job security necessitates keeping these people on the public dole and of course you have those that choose to male this their lifestyle and they pass it on from generation to generation. I believe someone said we are in our forth or fifth generation of welfare recipients. I believe that the hand up should be shortened and eventually cut off. I know that it sounds harsh but the old slogan of giving a man a fish and you feed him for one day or teach a man to fish and you feed him for his life still applies today.

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Jul 24, 2013 08:36:17   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
bahmer wrote:
Right on I can remember when I was young and starting out there were some times in there when my wife and I needed some assistance and we were almost to ashamed to ask. But I also remember paying it back because we went to a family member. I can also remember others who also felt ashamed to ask for help. As this was originally sold by LBJ it was to eliminate poverty and help these people get back on their feet again. I believe we have as much if not more poverty today percentage wise than we did back then. I also believe that the problem is on both sides, the government employee doesn't want to lose their job so job security necessitates keeping these people on the public dole and of course you have those that choose to male this their lifestyle and they pass it on from generation to generation. I believe someone said we are in our forth or fifth generation of welfare recipients. I believe that the hand up should be shortened and eventually cut off. I know that it sounds harsh but the old slogan of giving a man a fish and you feed him for one day or teach a man to fish and you feed him for his life still applies today.
Right on I can remember when I was young and start... (show quote)


I had no family members to ask. I used it temporarily, as it was intended, until I was able to (literally) get back on my feet. Then I stopped using it.

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Jul 24, 2013 08:54:20   #
bahmer
 
banjojack wrote:
I had no family members to ask. I used it temporarily, as it was intended, until I was able to (literally) get back on my feet. Then I stopped using it.


I saw that now how do we get the fourth and fifth generation users of this blotted program to do the same. My daughter was at a Wal-Mart the other day buying a few groceries and the woman in line ahead of her was buying party supplies, a cake hot dogs, hamburgers, buns, chips etc. and pays for it all with a links card takes it outside and loads it all into the back end of big Cadillac Escalade and drives off. My daughter and her husband both work and they have an 8 year old truck and a small Chevy because he has to drive 45 min. one way to work every day. You tell me where the justice is.

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Jul 24, 2013 10:04:22   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Smiley881 wrote:
Here is a link on the NAFTA
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement

Obama once said that the Free Trade Agreements don't
have a clause in them to protect American Jobs.

The U.S. is having a ball keeping Americans ignorant
of whats going on and pitting people against one another.


Obama is a master of pitting people against one another -

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Jul 24, 2013 10:47:02   #
Smiley881 Loc: San Leandro,CA.
 
Bahmer what is a links card?The only card I know for food is
an EBT Card.The state gives out food stamps according to
ones budget.The lady might have gotten that beautiful Cadallic
Esclade at an Auction.I have a friend that lives in CA.She
was working and has no kids.She was only making $10.00hr
pt.She was told she could only get $10.00 worth of food Stamps
because the state is on a budget.The Economy isn't designed
for anyone to really get on their feet.

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Jul 24, 2013 11:04:56   #
bahmer
 
Smiley881 wrote:
Bahmer what is a links card?The only card I know for food is
an EBT Card.The state gives out food stamps according to
ones budget.The lady might have gotten that beautiful Cadallic
Esclade at an Auction.I have a friend that lives in CA.She
was working and has no kids.She was only making $10.00hr
pt.She was told she could only get $10.00 worth of food Stamps
because the state is on a budget.The Economy isn't designed
for anyone to really get on their feet.


The links card is in IL and is where they put a certain amount each month into the card for your food stamp budget and then you use it like a debit card. This is so the food stamp people won't be embarrassed when they go to the grocery store and buy food. In IL the people are very clever as I am sure they are in CA and in the city where I live I know they use the links card to get drugs because I had some relatives that at one time were on drugs and there were certain stores that would give them fifty cents on the dollar in cash so they could go get their drugs. There also is a large No. of people who know how to work the system to make money off of the system. All you have to do is compromise your personnel integrity and lower yourself and to their level and you can do almost anything and not feel bad about it.

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Jul 24, 2013 12:02:58   #
Smiley881 Loc: San Leandro,CA.
 
CA.uses the EBT card.Its like a debit card.It has both a food line
and a Cash Aid line.In CA alot of W****s I don't mean to sound
predjuiced.Shop at certain times when the store isn't crowded
because they don't want other herritages of people to know that
they are on food stamps.

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Jul 24, 2013 13:04:00   #
bahmer
 
Smiley881 wrote:
CA.uses the EBT card.Its like a debit card.It has both a food line
and a Cash Aid line.In CA alot of W****s I don't mean to sound
predjuiced.Shop at certain times when the store isn't crowded
because they don't want other herritages of people to know that
they are on food stamps.


IL also has an EBT like card for miscellaneous purchases like gasoline, oil and I guess cigarettes and other things. I don't usually pay attention to what people are using but my brother in law informed me about something like that the other day. He noticed people using a card similar to what you are describing to purchase gas with and his friend said that's what that card was. I guess in CA at least some people still don't want others to know that they are on food stamps but from others I have talked to in IL they say that it's almost like the people are proud to be on the public dole.

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Jul 25, 2013 09:52:49   #
Hoghunter
 
Sell all you have and give it all to the poor, take up your cross.
But there is no right, because of a love for all the poor and hungry children of the world, for some to decide that everyone else has to do what they think is right. Some call me names; heartless, cold, cruel, wh**ever. It proves they have no better argument. There are too many other issues involved to make decisions based on "taking care of children because they are the future" propaganda. I*****l a***ns are just undocumented workers like bank robbers are unlicensed financial brokers. The government is not supposed to be the instrument of redistribution because it abuses power and is fraught with corruption. Charity comes from the heart, not taken by threat, duress and coercion. Americans are charitable; more than any other nation. People who work find a way or give their kids to relatives or the church until they get it together

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