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Jul 20, 2013 14:18:25   #
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Jul 20, 2013 18:06:24   #
CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas
 
OPP Newsletter wrote:
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OMG, so that's where CHE went.

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Jul 20, 2013 18:18:37   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
CrazyHorse wrote:
OMG, so that's where CHE went.


Was that picture made before that Jeantel kid said that there are ni**ers who are all black and ni**as who are any men no matter what their race. It appears to me that it may have been produced, the shirt that is, before she explained it all to the jury.

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Jul 21, 2013 15:10:41   #
donc711 Loc: North East Kansas
 
No comment. erg.

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Jul 24, 2013 14:53:31   #
CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas
 
Quid Pro Quo, CrazyHorse: I have been asked to post up some Churchill sayings on the chit-chat thread. I have a ton of Churchill saying, some of which are attributed, some of which are not. Some things Churchill probably said were not recorded anywhere, except someone said he said it, or it was just generally recognized he said it. I will leave it to the reader to make up his or her own mind. Some statements sound like Churchill although they have no attribution. Since he was known to be a straightforward man, you can probably conclude that if he thought it, he probably said it. So, I'll leave it to you to decide, and I will probably attempt to post up a few every day for a while to see how it goes. Here is your first dose:

"If you wanted nothing done, Arthur Balfour, was the best man for the task. There was no one equal to him." Churchill by Himself, p. 572. Yes, I think he would have said that.

"Well, dinner would have been splendid if the wine had been as cold as the soup, the beef as rare as the service, the brandy as old as the fish, and the maid as willing as the Duchess." Id. at 574. No doubt.

"I am a man of simple tastes - I am quite easily satisfied with the best of everything." Id. at 579. Yep.

"This hotel is a great trial to me. Yesterday morning I had half-eaten a kipper when a huge maggot crept out & flashed his teeth at me! To-day I could find nothing nourshing for lunch but pancakes. Such are the trials which great & good men endure in the service of their country." Id. at 539. 1909, 17 October, Queen's Hotel, Dundee.

Well there is your fix for today. Maybe I'll try again tomorrow.

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Jul 25, 2013 11:29:06   #
CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas
 
CrazyHorse wrote:
Quid Pro Quo, CrazyHorse: I have been asked to post up some Churchill sayings on the chit-chat thread. I have a ton of Churchill saying, some of which are attributed, some of which are not. Some things Churchill probably said were not recorded anywhere, except someone said he said it, or it was just generally recognized he said it. I will leave it to the reader to make up his or her own mind. Some statements sound like Churchill although they have no attribution. Since he was known to be a straightforward man, you can probably conclude that if he thought it, he probably said it. So, I'll leave it to you to decide, and I will probably attempt to post up a few every day for a while to see how it goes. Here is your first dose:

"If you wanted nothing done, Arthur Balfour, was the best man for the task. There was no one equal to him." Churchill by Himself, p. 572. Yes, I think he would have said that.

"Well, dinner would have been splendid if the wine had been as cold as the soup, the beef as rare as the service, the brandy as old as the fish, and the maid as willing as the Duchess." Id. at 574. No doubt.

"I am a man of simple tastes - I am quite easily satisfied with the best of everything." Id. at 579. Yep.

"This hotel is a great trial to me. Yesterday morning I had half-eaten a kipper when a huge maggot crept out & flashed his teeth at me! To-day I could find nothing nourshing for lunch but pancakes. Such are the trials which great & good men endure in the service of their country." Id. at 539. 1909, 17 October, Queen's Hotel, Dundee.

Well there is your fix for today. Maybe I'll try again tomorrow.
Quid Pro Quo, CrazyHorse: I have been asked to po... (show quote)


25 July, 2013:

[David Lloyd George at a telephone booth: "Winston, loan me a penny so I may ring a friend." Churchill eleaborately searched his pockets...] Here, David, is sixpence. Now you can ring all your friends. (Ronald Golding to the editor, who recalled that WSC told him of this exchange, which occurred before World War II.) Id. at 557.

He spoke without a note, and almost without a point. 1931. (Manchester II, 107.) WSC had endured a lengthy speech by Labour MP William Graham. Id. at 558.

"Set the People Free" was the title of a Conservative Party e******n manifesto. Smithers was well known for "condensing the largest amount of words into the smallest amount of thought", to use a Churchillism. Id. at 559. (alia: OIllegal's teleprompter is well known for condensing the largest amount of words into the smallest amount of thought.)

This is the kind of tedious nonsense up with which I will not put. [Sometimes rendered as "pedantic nonsense" or "tedious nuisance."] 1944. 27 Feburary. (Benjamin Zimmer, HTTP://XRL.US/IZBQ.) Id. at 578.

You will never get to the end of the journey if you stop to shy a stone at every dog that barks. 1923, 3 December, Shepherd's Bush Empire, London. (CS IV, 3426.) Id. at 579.

I am going to make a long speech today; I haven't had time to prepare a short one. (The book indicates he may have borrowed the idea from a French letter.) Id. at 579.

Well, that's it for another day. What say you?

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Jul 25, 2013 19:56:58   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
CrazyHorse wrote:
25 July, 2013:

[David Lloyd George at a telephone booth: "Winston, loan me a penny so I may ring a friend." Churchill eleaborately searched his pockets...] Here, David, is sixpence. Now you can ring all your friends. (Ronald Golding to the editor, who recalled that WSC told him of this exchange, which occurred before World War II.) Id. at 557.

He spoke without a note, and almost without a point. 1931. (Manchester II, 107.) WSC had endured a lengthy speech by Labour MP William Graham. Id. at 558.

"Set the People Free" was the title of a Conservative Party e******n manifesto. Smithers was well known for "condensing the largest amount of words into the smallest amount of thought", to use a Churchillism. Id. at 559. (alia: OIllegal's teleprompter is well known for condensing the largest amount of words into the smallest amount of thought.)

This is the kind of tedious nonsense up with which I will not put. [Sometimes rendered as "pedantic nonsense" or "tedious nuisance."] 1944. 27 Feburary. (Benjamin Zimmer, HTTP://XRL.US/IZBQ.) Id. at 578.

You will never get to the end of the journey if you stop to shy a stone at every dog that barks. 1923, 3 December, Shepherd's Bush Empire, London. (CS IV, 3426.) Id. at 579.

I am going to make a long speech today; I haven't had time to prepare a short one. (The book indicates he may have borrowed the idea from a French letter.) Id. at 579.

Well, that's it for another day. What say you?
25 July, 2013: br br David Lloyd George at a tel... (show quote)


I say that Obama's speech writers haven't read any of those quotes about lots of words about nothing. Of course, he did manage to talk about those phony scandals yesterday.

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Jul 25, 2013 21:56:25   #
CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas
 
oldroy wrote:
I say that Obama's speech writers haven't read any of those quotes about lots of words about nothing. Of course, he did manage to talk about those phony scandals yesterday.


Quid Pro Quo, oldroy: Thinking about Sir Winston Churchill at the same time as OIllegal, is a sacrilege, and gives me immediate brain damage. OIllegal is truly a devil trial sent to us by God, I do believe, to see if you still want to be a nation under God, done with k*****g babies, and the light of hope for the World.

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Jul 25, 2013 23:54:31   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
CrazyHorse wrote:
Quid Pro Quo, oldroy: Thinking about Sir Winston Churchill at the same time as OIllegal, is a sacrilege, and gives me immediate brain damage. OIllegal is truly a devil trial sent to us by God, I do believe, to see if you still want to be a nation under God, done with k*****g babies, and the light of hope for the World.


I've been wondering if anybody here has ever been to the Arlington Cemetery where the message delivered by FDR after Pearl Harbor is supposedly set in stone. I have never been there but heard today that the last few words he said in that speech to Congress about God helping us are no longer there.

If anybody has been there have any of you seen that bit of engraving? Have some progressives managed to remove those words or not? I say yes but don't know.

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Jul 26, 2013 08:33:15   #
CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas
 
oldroy wrote:
I've been wondering if anybody here has ever been to the Arlington Cemetery where the message delivered by FDR after Pearl Harbor is supposedly set in stone. I have never been there but heard today that the last few words he said in that speech to Congress about God helping us are no longer there.

If anybody has been there have any of you seen that bit of engraving? Have some progressives managed to remove those words or not? I say yes but don't know.


Quid Pro Quo, oldroy: One of 1PP's own is from Virginia, she might know.

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Jul 26, 2013 12:35:02   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
CrazyHorse wrote:
Quid Pro Quo, oldroy: One of 1PP's own is from Virginia, she might know.


Add that one to the defacing of the Lincoln Monument last night and you have a whole load of progressive work being used to keep us from thinking about the scandals that have beset the Obama administration. Why would those words have been taken off during Obama's days? Maybe they were taken off during the administration of Herbert Hoover? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Jul 26, 2013 15:19:19   #
CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas
 
CrazyHorse wrote:
25 July, 2013:

[David Lloyd George at a telephone booth: "Winston, loan me a penny so I may ring a friend." Churchill eleaborately searched his pockets...] Here, David, is sixpence. Now you can ring all your friends. (Ronald Golding to the editor, who recalled that WSC told him of this exchange, which occurred before World War II.) Id. at 557.

He spoke without a note, and almost without a point. 1931. (Manchester II, 107.) WSC had endured a lengthy speech by Labour MP William Graham. Id. at 558.

"Set the People Free" was the title of a Conservative Party e******n manifesto. Smithers was well known for "condensing the largest amount of words into the smallest amount of thought", to use a Churchillism. Id. at 559. (alia: OIllegal's teleprompter is well known for condensing the largest amount of words into the smallest amount of thought.)

This is the kind of tedious nonsense up with which I will not put. [Sometimes rendered as "pedantic nonsense" or "tedious nuisance."] 1944. 27 Feburary. (Benjamin Zimmer, HTTP://XRL.US/IZBQ.) Id. at 578.

You will never get to the end of the journey if you stop to shy a stone at every dog that barks. 1923, 3 December, Shepherd's Bush Empire, London. (CS IV, 3426.) Id. at 579.

I am going to make a long speech today; I haven't had time to prepare a short one. (The book indicates he may have borrowed the idea from a French letter.) Id. at 579.

Well, that's it for another day. What say you?
25 July, 2013: br br David Lloyd George at a tel... (show quote)


26 July, 2013:

Idlers: We cannot afford to have idle people. Idlers at the top make idlers at the bottom. No one must stand aside in his working prime to pursue a life of selfish pleasure. There are wasters in every class. But anyhow we cannot have a band of drones in our midst, whether they come from the ancient aristocracy or the modern plutocracy or the ordinary type of pub crawler. 1943, 21 March, Broadcase, London. (Onwards, 39.) Id. at 412.

Immigration: How was the Aliens Bill passed? It was introduced to the House of Commons in a tumbril. They began debating it on the steps of the scaffold, and before two days had passed in Committee they were hurried to the frame-work of the guillotine. 1905, 31 July. Id. 413.

Industry, management: Management by whom? Is it to be managed by business men under all the inducements of profit and all the penalties of bankruptcy, or is it to be management by politicians interested in their careers or prejudiced by their Party doctrines, but otherwise not specially distinguished - or, I should say, who otherwise have their distinction yet to win - who are assisted in their task by officials themselves impartial in the sense that it makes no difference to them whether the industry show a profit or a loss? 1948, 16 November. Id. at 413.

Insurance, Life: The only anxiety which the Socialists have about nationalizing life insurance is whether it will lose them support among the very large number of insurance agents... What they now seek is the control of the vast sum of money which represents the savings over many years of millions of people to provide by self-denial and forethought, for their widows, their orphans and their own old age or infirmity. The control over this great mass of investiments would be another most powerful means of bringing the whole financial, economic and industrial life of Britain into Socialist hands. 1950, 28 January, Woodford, Essex. (Balance, 167.) Id. at 414.

Keynesian economics: The idea that you can v**e yourself into prosperity is one of the most ludicrous tht ever was entertained. 1944, 7 September, RMS Queen Mary, En Route to Second Quebec Conference. (Colville, Fringes II, 139.) Id. at 415.

The idea that a nation can tax itself into propserity is one of the crudest delusions which has ever fuddled the human mind. 1948, 21 April. The Royal Albert Hall, London, (Europe, 301.) Id. at 415.

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Jul 26, 2013 22:32:05   #
OffGrid9 Loc: off-grid, down in a canyon, mostly
 
CrazyHorse wrote:
25 July, 2013:

I am going to make a long speech today; I haven't had time to prepare a short one. (The book indicates he may have borrowed the idea from a French letter.) Id. at 579.

Well, that's it for another day. What say you?


CrazyHorse -- that came not from a French letter. It was "borrowed" from a letter from Abe Lincoln to his mother, in which he said, at the end (I paraphrase here, but it's close): "There, Mother, I've written you a good long letter. I'm sorry I hadn't the time to write you a good short letter."

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Jul 26, 2013 22:56:37   #
CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas
 
OffGrid9 wrote:
CrazyHorse -- that came not from a French letter. It was "borrowed" from a letter from Abe Lincoln to his mother, in which he said, at the end (I paraphrase here, but it's close): "There, Mother, I've written you a good long letter. I'm sorry I hadn't the time to write you a good short letter."


Quid Pro Quo, OffGrid9: Glad to see you back. Maybe so, but the book I cited it from, published in 2008 in the UK and in the US, suggests he may have borrowed it from a french letter it cites, but I did not try to quote because of the french printing.

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