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Feb 27, 2015 08:08:30   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Ron Paul, "Today the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), a non-elected federal government agency, v**ed three-to-two to reclassify broadband Internet as a common carrier service under Title II of the Communications Act. This means that – without the v**e of Congress, the peoples’ branch of government – a federal agency now claims the power to regulate the Internet. I am surprised that even among civil liberties groups, some claim the federal government increasing regulation of the Internet somehow increases our freedom and liberty.
The t***h is very different. The adoption of these FCC rules on the Internet represents the largest regulatory power grab in recent history. The FCC’s newly adopted rule takes the most dynamic means of communication and imposes the regulatory structure designed for public utilities. Federal regulation could also open the door to de facto censorship of ideas perceived as threatening to the political class – ideas like the troops should be brought home, the PATRIOT Act should be repealed, military spending and corporate welfare should be cut, and the Federal Reserve should be audited and ended.
The one bright spot in this otherwise disastrous move is that federal regulations making it more difficult to use the Internet will cause more Americans to join our movement for liberty, peace, and prosperity. The federal government should keep its hands off of the Internet!"

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Feb 27, 2015 08:14:03   #
Liberty Tree
 
buffalo wrote:
Ron Paul, "Today the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), a non-elected federal government agency, v**ed three-to-two to reclassify broadband Internet as a common carrier service under Title II of the Communications Act. This means that – without the v**e of Congress, the peoples’ branch of government – a federal agency now claims the power to regulate the Internet. I am surprised that even among civil liberties groups, some claim the federal government increasing regulation of the Internet somehow increases our freedom and liberty.
The t***h is very different. The adoption of these FCC rules on the Internet represents the largest regulatory power grab in recent history. The FCC’s newly adopted rule takes the most dynamic means of communication and imposes the regulatory structure designed for public utilities. Federal regulation could also open the door to de facto censorship of ideas perceived as threatening to the political class – ideas like the troops should be brought home, the PATRIOT Act should be repealed, military spending and corporate welfare should be cut, and the Federal Reserve should be audited and ended.
The one bright spot in this otherwise disastrous move is that federal regulations making it more difficult to use the Internet will cause more Americans to join our movement for liberty, peace, and prosperity. The federal government should keep its hands off of the Internet!"
Ron Paul, "Today the Federal Communications C... (show quote)


This is just a way to open the door to shut down conservative opposition to Obama. Watch for moves against radio talk shows next.

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Feb 27, 2015 08:25:30   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
This is just a way to open the door to shut down conservative opposition to Obama. Watch for moves against radio talk shows next.







Yes, Liberty Tree, conservative EVERYTHING will be regulated out-of-business if "WE" don't "pitch-a-b***h!!!"

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Feb 27, 2015 08:27:09   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Is it just another big corporate take over? Google supports it.
Listen to Steven Crowder...

http://www.prisonplanet.com/net-neutrality-explained-simply-and-accurately.html

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Feb 27, 2015 08:34:19   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Moves like this will move those sitting on the fence if this has the effects some believe it will. Even liberals who use the net daily may have themselves wondering just what the Federal Government is pulling. Those fence sitters will move the the more conservative side of things.



Liberty Tree wrote:
This is just a way to open the door to shut down conservative opposition to Obama. Watch for moves against radio talk shows next.

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Feb 27, 2015 09:16:02   #
Bruce Kennedy Loc: Kansas
 
buffalo wrote:
Ron Paul, "Today the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), a non-elected federal government agency, v**ed three-to-two to reclassify broadband Internet as a common carrier service under Title II of the Communications Act. This means that – without the v**e of Congress, the peoples’ branch of government – a federal agency now claims the power to regulate the Internet. I am surprised that even among civil liberties groups, some claim the federal government increasing regulation of the Internet somehow increases our freedom and liberty.
The t***h is very different. The adoption of these FCC rules on the Internet represents the largest regulatory power grab in recent history. The FCC’s newly adopted rule takes the most dynamic means of communication and imposes the regulatory structure designed for public utilities. Federal regulation could also open the door to de facto censorship of ideas perceived as threatening to the political class – ideas like the troops should be brought home, the PATRIOT Act should be repealed, military spending and corporate welfare should be cut, and the Federal Reserve should be audited and ended.
The one bright spot in this otherwise disastrous move is that federal regulations making it more difficult to use the Internet will cause more Americans to join our movement for liberty, peace, and prosperity. The federal government should keep its hands off of the Internet!"
Ron Paul, "Today the Federal Communications C... (show quote)


It is my understanding that the FCC just prevented conglomerates such as Comcast from being able to regulate the internet and sell varying speeds (access) to other corporate entities, such as Netflix, for money and essentially screwing the public of equal access. Tell me where I'm wrong and how the FCC is screwing the public. To me your posts smacks of Corporatism. I know I just made that word up. But for me it means control of America should be in the hands of Corporate America. Where is that any different than "Big Government". At least with Government I have a chance to elect the officials I want to represent me. With Corporations I have no say at all.

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Feb 27, 2015 10:27:27   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
It's not how they say is will be used but what IS allowed, government intervention is never the answer! Without your Corporatism you wouldn't have what you have now. 10 tears ago the governments idea was to place the internet backbone on the electric grid, how secure is that? Those Corporation's said no and rejected the idea. It boils down to not what they say they'll do but what the rules say they can do in the future. Now if you think ObamaCare is good you may like what they do in the future.



Bruce Kennedy wrote:
It is my understanding that the FCC just prevented conglomerates such as Comcast from being able to regulate the internet and sell varying speeds (access) to other corporate entities, such as Netflix, for money and essentially screwing the public of equal access. Tell me where I'm wrong and how the FCC is screwing the public. To me your posts smacks of Corporatism. I know I just made that word up. But for me it means control of America should be in the hands of Corporate America. Where is that any different than "Big Government". At least with Government I have a chance to elect the officials I want to represent me. With Corporations I have no say at all.
It is my understanding that the FCC just prevented... (show quote)

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Feb 27, 2015 10:34:04   #
Liberty Tree
 
bmac32 wrote:
It's not how they say is will be used but what IS allowed, government intervention is never the answer! Without your Corporatism you wouldn't have what you have now. 10 tears ago the governments idea was to place the internet backbone on the electric grid, how secure is that? Those Corporation's said no and rejected the idea. It boils down to not what they say they'll do but what the rules say they can do in the future. Now if you think ObamaCare is good you may like what they do in the future.


Some just do not get it. Tyranny is first presented to the people in a pretty package that will be accepted. The fish takes the good looking bait and finds out to late that it has a hook that takes him to his end. Tyranny takes root in and spreads out the fertle ground of the gullibility and ignorance of people.

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Feb 27, 2015 11:43:55   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
There was a time in America where bureaucrats could not write law nor could they expand their scope without legislation - it took elected officials to write laws and they had to face v**ers and defend their actions.

I for one don't know if net neutrality is good or is bad - I just wish we still had a country where liberty and property could not be restrained by bureaucrats acting on their own. Wh**ever good, assuming there is any, that could come from this is easily outweighed by more unelected and unaccountable officials gaining more power over more areas providing more fuel for expanded corruption.

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Feb 27, 2015 11:48:06   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
So far I haven't seen a package dressed up enough to fall for. Cash for Clunkers was the closets and even that was a failure.


Liberty Tree wrote:
Some just do not get it. Tyranny is first presented to the people in a pretty package that will be accepted. The fish takes the good looking bait and finds out to late that it has a hook that takes him to his end. Tyranny takes root in and spreads out the fertle ground of the gullibility and ignorance of people.

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Feb 27, 2015 14:44:37   #
Liberty Tree
 
bmac32 wrote:
So far I haven't seen a package dressed up enough to fall for. Cash for Clunkers was the closets and even that was a failure.


You do not fall for it becayse you are not a ELWNJ and you believe in self sufficiency.

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Feb 28, 2015 12:16:33   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
buffalo wrote:
Ron Paul, "Today the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), a non-elected federal government agency, v**ed three-to-two to reclassify broadband Internet as a common carrier service under Title II of the Communications Act. This means that – without the v**e of Congress, the peoples’ branch of government – a federal agency now claims the power to regulate the Internet. I am surprised that even among civil liberties groups, some claim the federal government increasing regulation of the Internet somehow increases our freedom and liberty.
The t***h is very different. The adoption of these FCC rules on the Internet represents the largest regulatory power grab in recent history. The FCC’s newly adopted rule takes the most dynamic means of communication and imposes the regulatory structure designed for public utilities. Federal regulation could also open the door to de facto censorship of ideas perceived as threatening to the political class – ideas like the troops should be brought home, the PATRIOT Act should be repealed, military spending and corporate welfare should be cut, and the Federal Reserve should be audited and ended.
The one bright spot in this otherwise disastrous move is that federal regulations making it more difficult to use the Internet will cause more Americans to join our movement for liberty, peace, and prosperity. The federal government should keep its hands off of the Internet!"
Ron Paul, "Today the Federal Communications C... (show quote)



yeah this will bring us more freedom
it wont be long before they will come for you at two or three in the am
does that remind you of something??
for those of you too young to remember,
this is exactly how it started in N**i Germany
anyone making noise againt the govt was rounded up
same thing in Russia
when you cant speak your mind you have no freedom

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Feb 28, 2015 12:23:38   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Bruce Kennedy wrote:
It is my understanding that the FCC just prevented conglomerates such as Comcast from being able to regulate the internet and sell varying speeds (access) to other corporate entities, such as Netflix, for money and essentially screwing the public of equal access. Tell me where I'm wrong and how the FCC is screwing the public. To me your posts smacks of Corporatism. I know I just made that word up. But for me it means control of America should be in the hands of Corporate America. Where is that any different than "Big Government". At least with Government I have a chance to elect the officials I want to represent me. With Corporations I have no say at all.
It is my understanding that the FCC just prevented... (show quote)


You have no say with government because if v****g really mattered it would be illegal and, besides, big corporations, big banking corporations, big pharma corporations, big health insurance corporations and the military industrial complex own the government.

Hide and watch what happens with the internet now that big brother has stepped in.

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Feb 28, 2015 12:31:22   #
dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)
 
Net Neutrality is a cure looking for a disease. It says it will stop several things which are not happening and will prevent corporations from doing things which they have no plans to do in the first place. It deals strictly with things which "might," or "could" be done. Kind of like naming ObamaCare the "affordable" care Act, which it definitely is NOT.

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Feb 28, 2015 13:29:29   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
I do not fully agree.
http://www.cnet.com/news/comcast-vs-netflix-is-this-really-about-net-neutrality/



dennisimoto wrote:
Net Neutrality is a cure looking for a disease. It says it will stop several things which are not happening and will prevent corporations from doing things which they have no plans to do in the first place. It deals strictly with things which "might," or "could" be done. Kind of like naming ObamaCare the "affordable" care Act, which it definitely is NOT.

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