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Feb 26, 2015 13:06:47   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
California Infant Dies after 8 V*****es, Family Gets Him Back from Hospital Cremated

Parents in California are distraught after losing their infant son after being v******ted. He died in his sleep and was taken to the hospital already deceased. Hospital staff ruled his death as sudden infant death syndrome. The couple was told an autopsy was required to be performed on their son.

After returning home, waiting to get an update, they never received one. Numerous phone calls were made to get answers. Weeks went by. Finally, they received verbal confirmation they could pick up the remains of their child from the crematory. They were not given the chance to say their goodbyes.

More than one year and four months have passed and the family has yet to receive his autopsy report. It turns out their son was given a v*****e not approved for his age and an extra dose of the hepatitis B v*****e that he shouldn’t have received until later on.

This harrowing story is a reminder that v*****es can be lethal. Parents shall maintain the rights to choose what medical interventions they feel are safe for their child. After all, they are the ones who have to live with the consequences.

Crystal Downing shares with us what happened to her son Matthew, in hopes to remind parents to research v*****es before offering their child to be injected with wh**ever the doctor says.
One Less Baby Boy

“Our sweet little fussy bear Matthew Gage Downing-Powers was born healthy on April 26, 2013. In the hospital, he was given the Hepatitis B v*****e after birth. That’s what they do here in the United States and what the CDC recommends newborns receive, following the current schedule. His reactions to the shot were deemed normal and I have older children that have been fully v******ted, so I was aware of what to expect.

I took Matthew in for his 2 month well baby checkup on July 2, 2013. During this appointment, he was given 8 v*****es for DTaP (3 in 1), Polio, Hib, Hep B, Pneumococcal PCV and the oral Rotav***s v*****e. Then I was late getting him to his 4 month checkup. I brought him as soon as I was able.

On Monday October 7, 2013, when Matthew was 5 ½ month’s old, I brought him in for his 4 month delayed visit. The doctor said they could get him caught up on his shots. I thought ok, you can do that. Matthew received 8 v*****es, DTaP, Polio, Hib, Pneumococcal, Hep B and Hep A. These would be the last v*****es he would ever receive.

After the shots, he didn’t have a fever or a low grade one. We didn’t give him Tylenol. He was just grumpy and crying some. We checked him every hour. His temperature stayed normal but he wasn’t his happy go lucky self. All my kids got grumpy after their shots.

I didn’t call the doctor on Tuesday. I knew these were typical behaviors after the kids received the v*****es. He is my 4th son. We had our other 3 v******ted and knew what to expect.

I thought I would give it another day to see if he was still grumpy but we didn’t get to the next day. Matthew was gone by then. He was found lifeless. He went to bed that Tuesday night and my husband found him Wednesday morning.

My husband Zack and I both performed CPR on our son and so did my dad and step mom. He had some light pinkish-brown tinged mucous coming from his nose and mouth. I wasn’t willing to believe he was gone. None of us were willing to give up on him.

My husband called 911 but they were taking so long. I ran my baby to the hospital that was a 2 blocks away. I took him to Needles hospital which is called Colorado River Medical Center in Needles, CA. The hospital also did CPR on him and said he died of SIDS, soon after I brought him in. He had been gone for hours they said. They told me he passed sometime between 11 PM (after he was put to bed) and 7 AM Wednesday morning (shortly before he was found).

My life has been full of heartache since we lost our baby. That was the worst day of my life, seeing my son that way but still believing he would come back to me.

Hospital staff said I would be under investigation and it was California law when a baby passes, to undergo an autopsy. From the hospital in Needles, Matthew was t***sferred from that hospital to the coroner’s office, in San Bernardino, CA. We had chosen to have Matthew cremated at a funeral home in San Bernardino.

After leaving Matthew at the hospital, we were told to go home and wait for an update when the autopsy would be done. We planned to see him at the funeral home we picked out, after deciding we would have him cremated. I was told I’d be informed when the autopsy was to be done and when it would be completed and that I could view him before being cremated.

I didn’t write down the names of the staff members I left my son with. I didn’t think of that when it happened. But I should have. No one called me to inform me what was going on. I called numerous times and kept getting the runaround. Absolutely no one would give me answers.

Weeks went by before I received a call back and was told I could pick up his remains at the funeral home we had chosen to do his cremation. Already emotionally traumatized by what happened, we then learned they had already cremated our baby before telling us, I was beyond upset. There aren’t words to describe that kind of pain felt. This is my baby!

The funeral home confirmed the remains were Matthew’s. They asked me what urn I would like and then confirmed it was him. I also sent a picture of him, to make sure. Matthew didn’t get brought back to our home in Needles, California until November 20, 2013. A month and a half after he passed away.

No one called me to tell me when they started on the autopsy. He was cremated before we ever got to see him again. The last time I got to hold him was in the hospital. My heart was torn when we lost him and to live the rest of our lives not being able to say our goodbyes, it’s an unimaginable pain most people would never understand.

It took me a long time to speak up and share my story because of this pain. I decided to come forward because I don’t want Matthew to die in vain because of v*****e manufacturers not doing a better job making safer v*****es, before pushing them onto unsuspecting parents and their innocent babies they view as profitable beings.

Why are infants getting so many at one time? Has it been proven it’s safe to give these kids all the v*****es they are shooting them up with during these well baby checkups? From what I’ve learned since all of this, the answer is no.

Later, I learned two of the v*****es given at his last appointment, should not have been given to him. Babies are not supposed to be given the Hepatitis A v*****e until at least 1 year of age and this was given to Matthew at 5 1/2 months old.

I also learned he was given the third dose of Hepatitis B too soon. Matthew wasn’t supposed to get that until his next visit during the 6 month checkup which would’ve also been delayed to space out the shots, because we were late getting him the 4 month v*****es.

It’s been over a year and four months since Matthew passed on October 9, 2013 and I still haven’t gotten the autopsy report that I told them I wanted a copy of. I keep getting the run around!

I went the doctor’s office recently and found out the nurse that injected Matthew is no longer working there. I was told she got fired because she didn’t know what she was doing when giving v*****es.

I said to the office if it turns out his death was because of her ignorance, I will be going after them all. My son shouldn’t have died because you guys were too lazy to train her to give v*****es properly. They didn’t even apologize to me. I’m just beyond angry at this point. I can’t wait to get my answers.

They said my baby is the only one who had passed away since she started working, until the end of her working. Who knows if that is true? There could’ve been more lives taken and they wouldn’t admit it.

I want to tell other parents, they say v******tions are safe, but in reality, they aren’t.

Ask questions and know which v*****es they plan to give to your baby. Know the risks associated with all of the v*****es they plan to give during the checkup. And remember, it’s your choice. It’s your child. And wh**ever you do, don’t let them mix the v*****es into one needle or give them so many at once because if you don’t think this won’t harm your child, then look at the child I lost. It is possible.

Matthew was given DTaP, IPV, Hib, PCV, Hep B and Hep A in 3 shots, one in his right arm and two in his left leg.

Now I’m pregnant with my 5th child. I have to stay strong. I have too. I have to remain less stressed for my family and during my pregnancy. I have 3 boys, a hubby and soon my rainbow baby, all counting on me, to hold this family together.

In all honesty though, sometimes I feel so overwhelmed because I miss Matthew so much and people are so unaware how often v*****es take the lives of infants. I’m beyond angry that this has happened to my baby. And scared it can happen again with the kids I do have. And that I’ll be forced to v******te this unborn baby.

A bill was currently put forth by our California state politicians to take away my right to exempt my children from further v*****es due to personal beliefs. If this passes, this would take my parental right away, to choose v******ting my children in the future. What they should do is create a new exemption for parents to file that took one for the team! We should be able to opt out for that reason alone.

Was it not enough Matthew was taken? He should be honored by these people but instead, they deny his existence by pushing bills that slap parents in the face that have lost their child to v*****es or to those parents with v*****e injured children. Maybe if they would make safer v*****es, more would want to get them.

My son was injected with 8 v*****es, if you don’t know what is in them, learn! When I did, I was shocked and mad at myself for not questioning this before. Matthew is the reason I opened my eyes, to see what v*****es can really do to a baby, let alone anyone. I’m not the only one who believes v*****es are not what they claim they are. I really hope this opens parent’s eyes who do v******te their children.

My older son is having a hard time, my second son said he is afraid of the shots now and my third son is 3 years old, he just knows his baby brother is gone. As for my hubby, he keeps it in, so it’s kind of hard to know what he is feeling.

To this day, I still haven’t received his autopsy report. They keep giving me the run around. So the investigation is still pending. I have filed a report with the V*****e A*****e E***ts Reporting System (V***S). I’ve learned they sometimes don’t follow up with parents, which prevents them from reporting a reaction. Until I receive an autopsy report, it makes it difficult to file a claim with the National V*****e Injury Compensation Program (NVICP). I feel they are stalling us because the time frame to file when you lose a child to v*****es is 2 years, it’s going on a 1 ½ years for us. We won’t give up. My son should still be here.

His shot records don’t lie! They shouldn’t cover up these reactions to v*****es these kids suffer from. They should not stifle parents from pursuing the already time consuming and deterring recourse they’ve set up, talking about the v*****e injury compensation program.

Since I looked into this more, I’ve learned how common it is for babies to die right after getting v******ted. I just want it to be known that this can happen and I hope mothers ask questions first, before handing their child over to get shot up. How many of us moms helped hold our own child down, to keep them restrained while being v******ted, knowing we helped them hurt our own?

Matthew’s death was a high price to pay in the name of preventing any of these diseases my kid would’ve been fine dealing with.

I didn’t believe a few people who told me this can happen, but it did. And now I have to live with that for the rest of my life, knowing I should have asked questions and researched first, before blindly agreeing to them injecting or giving him anything. I didn’t research. I didn’t question what v*****es were given to all of my children. I had no reason to distrust doctors, until now. Since this happened to Matthew, my eyes are wide open now. Now I’m not afraid to question everything that is done to my children.

It’s a parent’s decision to make, to v******te their child or not. Parents need to research both sides, for and against. Then make their decision on the matter. My dad told me I didn’t get sick till after I started school and had to have those required v*****es. After that, my dad never v******ted me again. My dad said it a few times before all of this happened, but I didn’t pay attention. I wish I had listened to him.

I just let the doctors and nurses do what they said was needed. No questions asked. I thought they would tell me if there were severe risks involved. Nobody told me anything like that. I trusted them with my child’s life and would’ve liked to have known that death from v******tion is an associated risk. Why didn’t the doctors or nurse tell me this? I really wished I researched and asked questions instead of just trusting the system and doctors. And now because I didn’t, my child is gone.

There are a lot more parents out there like me. Some don’t come forward due to fact they are afraid of what people would say. Sometimes people can be really cruel and not understand what parents like me go through.

I just want his story to be told. My hubby and I say thank you to everyone lending their support. We are so blessed to have the short time we had with our little fussy bear. I hope sharing this will help mothers know it can happen.

I want it well known I’m not telling parents not to v******te their child. I’m simply saying to research before you v******te. Learn if you choose to v******te, then that is your choice, not someone else’s to make because you will be stuck with the consequences.

Don’t disrespect parents like me, who have lost their child to v*****es. And don’t disrespect parents of living v*****e injured children. Our rights to choose these medical interventions need to be preserved. It is beyond disturbing that bought politicians think they can choose what gets injected into our children. They don’t care about your child’s health. Clearly many are dying and getting injured from these v*****es and they turn a blind eye. That should tell you something.

I miss my baby so much. A huge part of me was taken when he was. I cannot let this happen again. I cannot put my other children at risk of being v*****e injured any longer.

Matthew took one for the team and his life didn’t matter to those wanting to strip my rights to opt out of further v******ting. Why does he not matter? Why do mild cases involving the measles get reported all over the news, but not babies dying after getting the MMR shot or other v******tions? Why don’t the v*****e injured children matter?

We miss and love you so much Matthew. You are always thought of every day. You are always in my heart and I will never stop loving you.

Love Your Momma,
Crystal Downing-Powers”



Matthew Gage Downing-Powers

April 26, 2013 - October 9, 2013

Passed away at 5 ½ months old, less than 2 days after receiving 8 v*****es


Conclusion

As long as v*****e manufacturers avoid doing causation studies, as long as this data doesn’t exist, health officials and published v*****e-promoting, peer-reviewed literature can state there is no proof v*****es cause SIDS or other v*****e injuries.

How can a medical examiner be sure of which v*****e caused a person’s health to decline when multiple v*****es are given at a time? Overstimulating the i****e s****m via v******tion can lead to a fatal outcome. Since it is proven difficult to narrow down which v*****e contributed to a child’s death after v******tion, giving numerous or combination v*****es should be a concern.


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Feb 27, 2015 09:27:57   #
Blacksheep
 
eagleye13 wrote:
California Infant Dies after 8 V*****es, Family Gets Him Back from Hospital Cremated

*** The rest of this 3-volume set deleted in the public interest ***



Another one of your goddam endless scrolls. When will you learn to post a short summation and a link for people to read it all if they want? Is that so difficult? Do you have any idea how many of us just skip your postings because of their extreme length? Hello?

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Feb 27, 2015 11:50:29   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
A good point BS for some cases; But I have to deal with responders commenting and lying about what is in an article. Many times without reading the article, and totally missing the point being made. Without the article being included, many more would be deceived by the disingenuous replies from trolls and knee jerkers. That is the MO of some here.
A case in point is a response to such postings on another thread that ignored the content:
I have studies political g*******t z*****m for over 40 years.
IMO - This one article had some good insights:
Some are -
Things moved from bad to worse. National Security Adviser Susan Rice (CFR), who has defended the Israeli regime on numerous occasions, seemed to have been exhausted over the past two weeks. She seemed to have thrown in the towel by saying that Netanyahu’s speech to Congress will be extremely “destructive.”
“Secretary of State John Kerry reminded Americans on Wednesday that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel, who is expected to denounce a potential nuclear deal with Iran during an address to Congress next week, also visited Washington in late 2002 to lobby for the invasion of Iraq.
“Apparently referring to testimony on the Middle East that Mr. Netanyahu delivered to Congress on Sept. 12, 2002, when he was a private citizen, Mr. Kerry told the House Foreign Affairs Committee,
“‘The prime minister, as you will recall, was profoundly forward-leaning and outspoken about the importance of invading Iraq under George W. Bush, and we all know what happened with that decision.’

In 1990, there were about thirty thousand registered doctors in Iraq. By 2008, more than fifteen thousand had already left the country. Then there is the high unemployment that has been ravaging sections of the region, combining with the fact that educational institutions have been in decline.[4]
This is the freedom that Netanyahu and his brethren (the Neo-Bolsheviks) have brought to Iraq; this is the sort of heaven these intellectual and political geniuses have been seeking in the Middle East. And the ideological agenda of the neoconservative movement progressively attacks Christian families and decent Muslim neighborhoods in the Middle East.
The National Interest itself declared in 2010 that “the historic Christian community has been largely destroyed” in Iraq after the war, where hundreds of Christians have been k**led and exiled to other countries such as Syria and Lebanon.[5]
The report continued to say that “many advocates claim Iraq is now a great success. But not for Iraq’s Christians.”[6] People like Benjamin Weinthal talked about “The Mideast’s Vanishing Christians.”[7]
“1.2 million have been driven from their homes within the country, according to the United Nations refugee agency. Some 2.5 million people need humanitarian assistance, and the number keeps climbing.”
In October 2012, a bomb blasted a Beirut Christian community, and the New York Times was quick to jump to the conclusion that Al-Assad was behind it,[12] forgetting that Al-Assad has been friends with the Christian communities and that they too saw that if Al-Assad is o*******wn, the Christian communities will have problems with the new regime.
According to the reasoning by the New York Times, Al-Assad was just dumb, k*****g his own allies for no reason. But only a week before the bombing, the Syrian rebels threatened to attack Beirut.[13]

There are many more insights in this article:
Will the detractors here on OPP comment on any of these?


B****sheep wrote:
Another one of your goddam endless scrolls. When will you learn to post a short summation and a link for people to read it all if they want? Is that so difficult? Do you have any idea how many of us just skip your postings because of their extreme length? Hello?

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Feb 27, 2015 12:57:09   #
Blacksheep
 
eagleye13 wrote:
A good point BS for some cases; But I have to deal with responders commenting and lying about what is in an article.


You answer me with an endless comment, which I've shortened to it's single really salient point. which is... NO, you DON'T have to "deal with responders". Not at all. If you choose to, that's different, but YOU DON'T HAVE TO. It's your choice, because you like to get into it with them. Be honest.

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Feb 27, 2015 13:02:49   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
My purpose is to spread some t***h to those that wish to be educated.

I will not let ignorance and lies go unanswered.

B****sheep wrote:
You answer me with an endless comment, which I've shortened to it's single really salient point. which is... NO, you DON'T have to "deal with responders". Not at all. If you choose to, that's different, but YOU DON'T HAVE TO. It's your choice, because you like to get into it with them. Be honest.

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Feb 27, 2015 13:05:16   #
Blacksheep
 
You know, you can keep right on posting your endless scrolls, it's a free forum, pretty much, and no one has to read them that doesn't want to.

But when most of us skip past them, understand why, okay?

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Feb 27, 2015 13:24:25   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
I know you are right BS. Thanks.
I don't know any other way to overcome laziness, and purposeful misinformation. Lies unanswered go as unrefuted.
B****sheep wrote:
You know, you can keep right on posting your endless scrolls, it's a free forum, pretty much, and no one has to read them that doesn't want to.

But when most of us skip past them, understand why, okay?

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Feb 27, 2015 13:33:44   #
Blacksheep
 
eagleye13 wrote:
I know you are right BS. Thanks.
I don't know any other way to overcome laziness, and purposeful misinformation. Lies unanswered go as unrefuted.


I understand dedication, others on OPP take issue with me on the subject of religion, because I preach knowing over believing, regardless of which religion.

But, I do keep my posts short. Brevity truly is the soul of wit. I read the news articles, come to my conclusions, then summarize those conclusions, giving the news links as references. No one has to go check those links, they're there if they want to. Mostly, I post links to shut up the jerks who would otherwise demand to know where I got my information.

When you post an entire article, of great length, you aren't overcoming laziness, you're promoting it. Can you see that?

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Feb 27, 2015 13:58:29   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
I can see that.

Here is what will happen;
The trolls, who are here will post their BS and make unfounded accusations, and mis t***hs about what they did not bother to read, all to pull the "wool" (sorry b****sheep:-))
over peoples eyes. Then I have to clarify and expose the BS (not you BS:-) ) It is a no win proposition; but the lies will not go unrefuted if I find the time.
B****sheep wrote:
I understand dedication, others on OPP take issue with me on the subject of religion, because I preach knowing over believing, regardless of which religion.

But, I do keep my posts short. Brevity truly is the soul of wit. I read the news articles, come to my conclusions, then summarize those conclusions, giving the news links as references. No one has to go check those links, they're there if they want to. Mostly, I post links to shut up the jerks who would otherwise demand to know where I got my information.

When you post an entire article, of great length, you aren't overcoming laziness, you're promoting it. Can you see that?
I understand dedication, others on OPP take issue ... (show quote)

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Feb 27, 2015 14:00:06   #
Mollypitcher1
 
eagleye13 wrote:
I know you are right BS. Thanks.
I don't know any other way to overcome laziness, and purposeful misinformation. Lies unanswered go as unrefuted.


Drowning people in misinformation because YOU think it is the t***h is a Liberal tactic. Your recent posting against Netanyahu's speech illustrates that fact.

Most people "skim" when they read and if something is interesting to them, they delve into researching it. Sometimes they don't and draw the wrong conclusion, but that is life. You have to live with it. I will agree that some people are lazy, even perhaps most people, but there are a great number of "thinking people" out here who think for themselves and draw their own conclusions based on their beliefs and experiences and more or less on what somebody else said....mostly less.

I think your problem is you have trouble deciding just what side you are on. Some of your postings prove it. You are all upset over a child dying because of v******tions, but you give not a thought to Israel's children who are being bombed daily,or blown up by suicide bombers. You protest Netanyahu's speech because you are afraid he is going to point the finger at Iran.

Make up your mind what you're for and stand by it, but quit being all over the map.

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Feb 27, 2015 14:22:21   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Molly Molly Molly. you apparently you will not take the time to discover what my positions are. Yet you take the time to misrepresent my positions. You write; "I think your problem is you have trouble deciding just what side you are on."
I try to be on the side of t***h, justice, and honor. IMO - Things God approves of.
You on the other hand prefer to believe the PTB that control the "news" and most every thing else. Money talks.
Then you write - " but you give not a thought to Israel's children who are being bombed daily,or blown up by suicide bombers". What is the k**l ratio of Israel to Moslem and Christian? Over 100 to 1. It might be several hundred to 1.
Most of the Moslem k*****g is by Radical extremists, that got to where they are by US/NATO/CIA/Mossad meddling.

The Covert Origins of ISIS: Zbig is in it at minute 11
If Assad falls in Syria; the radicals will take over just like they did in Libya after US/NATO/CIA meddling in Libya, and Iraq.
Americans better figure this out in time. Who will pay attention to covert US foreign policy and share?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMjXbuj7BPI&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6bKksRAybYI


Mollypitcher1 wrote:
Drowning people in misinformation because YOU think it is the t***h is a Liberal tactic. Your recent posting against Netanyahu's speech illustrates that fact.

Most people "skim" when they read and if something is interesting to them, they delve into researching it. Sometimes they don't and draw the wrong conclusion, but that is life. You have to live with it. I will agree that some people are lazy, even perhaps most people, but there are a great number of "thinking people" out here who think for themselves and draw their own conclusions based on their beliefs and experiences and more or less on what somebody else said....mostly less.

I think your problem is you have trouble deciding just what side you are on. Some of your postings prove it. You are all upset over a child dying because of v******tions, but you give not a thought to Israel's children who are being bombed daily,or blown up by suicide bombers. You protest Netanyahu's speech because you are afraid he is going to point the finger at Iran.

Make up your mind what you're for and stand by it, but quit being all over the map.
Drowning people in misinformation because YOU thin... (show quote)

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Feb 27, 2015 14:34:26   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
BTW; this is what Syria has to look forward to if our foreign policy is successful:
In October 2012, a bomb blasted a Beirut Christian community, and the New York Times was quick to jump to the conclusion that Al-Assad was behind it,[12] forgetting that Al-Assad has been friends with the Christian communities and that they too saw that if Al-Assad is o*******wn, the Christian communities will have problems with the new regime.
According to the reasoning by the New York Times, Al-Assad was just dumb, k*****g his own allies for no reason. But only a week before the bombing, the Syrian rebels threatened to attack Beirut.[13

The National Interest itself declared in 2010 that “the historic Christian community has been largely destroyed” in Iraq after the war, where hundreds of Christians have been k**led and exiled to other countries such as Syria and Lebanon.[5]
The report continued to say that “many advocates claim Iraq is now a great success. But not for Iraq’s Christians.”[6] People like Benjamin Weinthal talked about “The Mideast’s Vanishing Christians.”[7]
We are witnessing the same thing in Syria, where the Christian minority has been targeted by the Syrian rebels.[8] And by October 2012, it was clear that by supporting the Syrian rebels, the U.S. ended up supporting “hardline Islamic Jihadis.”[9]

Mollypitcher1 wrote:
Drowning people in misinformation because YOU think it is the t***h is a Liberal tactic. Your recent posting against Netanyahu's speech illustrates that fact.

Most people "skim" when they read and if something is interesting to them, they delve into researching it. Sometimes they don't and draw the wrong conclusion, but that is life. You have to live with it. I will agree that some people are lazy, even perhaps most people, but there are a great number of "thinking people" out here who think for themselves and draw their own conclusions based on their beliefs and experiences and more or less on what somebody else said....mostly less.

I think your problem is you have trouble deciding just what side you are on. Some of your postings prove it. You are all upset over a child dying because of v******tions, but you give not a thought to Israel's children who are being bombed daily,or blown up by suicide bombers. You protest Netanyahu's speech because you are afraid he is going to point the finger at Iran.

Make up your mind what you're for and stand by it, but quit being all over the map.
Drowning people in misinformation because YOU thin... (show quote)

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Feb 27, 2015 19:08:46   #
Blacksheep
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Molly Molly Molly. you apparently you will not take the time to discover what my positions are. Yet you take the time to misrepresent my positions. You write; "I think your problem is you have trouble deciding just what side you are on."
I try to be on the side of t***h, justice, and honor. IMO - Things God approves of.
You on the other hand prefer to believe the PTB that control the "news" and most every thing else. Money talks.
Then you write - " but you give not a thought to Israel's children who are being bombed daily,or blown up by suicide bombers". What is the k**l ratio of Israel to Moslem and Christian? Over 100 to 1. It might be several hundred to 1.
Most of the Moslem k*****g is by Radical extremists, that got to where they are by US/NATO/CIA/Mossad meddling.

The Covert Origins of ISIS: Zbig is in it at minute 11
If Assad falls in Syria; the radicals will take over just like they did in Libya after US/NATO/CIA meddling in Libya, and Iraq.
Americans better figure this out in time. Who will pay attention to covert US foreign policy and share?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMjXbuj7BPI&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6bKksRAybYI
Molly Molly Molly. you apparently you will not tak... (show quote)


eagleye13 eagleye13 eagleye13, you came out against our allies. The Israelis are our allies. Not the so-called palestinians. You spouted that utter, total bulls**t before about the Israelis k*****g Muslims 100 to 1. Well you know what, buddy? Some say we k**led over a million Iraqis when we invaded them. What's that, about 10,000 to 1? And GOOD FOR US.

You're a Jew h**er. Why don't you just admit it?

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Feb 27, 2015 21:04:27   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
"You're a Jew h**er. Why don't you just admit it?"
Not at all. Political z*****m yes. I have a hard time understanding why real Jewish people support political z*****m. They give Jews a bad name. The Israeli government is not an ally. It is a godless parasite on humanity, and will be exposed in the end of this age.

B****sheep wrote:
eagleye13 eagleye13 eagleye13, you came out against our allies. The Israelis are our allies. Not the so-called palestinians. You spouted that utter, total bulls**t before about the Israelis k*****g Muslims 100 to 1. Well you know what, buddy? Some say we k**led over a million Iraqis when we invaded them. What's that, about 10,000 to 1? And GOOD FOR US.

You're a Jew h**er. Why don't you just admit it?

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Feb 27, 2015 22:31:32   #
Blacksheep
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"You're a Jew h**er. Why don't you just admit it?"
Not at all. Political z*****m yes. I have a hard time understanding why real Jewish people support political z*****m. They give Jews a bad name. The Israeli government is not an ally. It is a godless parasite on humanity, and will be exposed in the end of this age.


Right. You're a Jew h**er, and proud of it.
Z*****m is the desire to have a nation of their own. The ancient name for this nation is Zion. You find fault with their desire to have their own nation and you want to see Israel destroyed.

No one is giving Jews a bad name. You're just spouting the same defamatory "parasite" crap against them that Hitler did in Mein Kampf. You're a N**i.

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