The Progressive Patriot

mark

Yes they are many republicans who think it's ok to stick government in the bedroom but scream bloody murder when Obama talks to the states about promoting EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION.
They are bats**t crazy.

oilfieldDave Loc: From AK live in WA

Here is some proof the Demo's, and especially Barry Obama are out of touch. A d******c t*******t, admitted c****e, and all around piece of poop, Bill Ayers, a faithful member of the liberal democratic party, friend and mentor of Obama, and now a "visiting scholar" to MSU.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-pal-radical-ayers-wins-scholar-status-minn-state/article/2522577

The Progressive Patriot

Oh s**t, I should never have turned you on to this site. Now I have to reply 2X. I was a long long time ago. Surly you can do better, like Hugo Chavez

John

If you are referring to the Head start program let me share a stat with you. A recent study found that third graders were studied using groups that had attended head start and another group that didn't. After billions of dollars guess what? No discernible difference! You liberals love to spend other peoples money but you won't be held accountable. As for you're comment about GOP being in bedroom but not wanting child hood education. You would have to explain. I agree that there shouldn't be a double standard. So liberals want our guns because of a few nut bags that k**l children. Yet these same liberals are ok with a******n? I think both parties can see some hypocrisy. If you would like I challenge you to a debate here. I would like the following ground rules. No comment more then 100 words per point. Questions are encouraged for explanation. Others can judge. When we start a new subject for debate we identify it as Mark and John are debating based on these rules. Please v**e on who you think is winning. Let others decide. I am at a marked disadvantage because it appears this is a predominately liberal forum. However, I am honestly interested in other points of view. God Bless and Good Luck. Let me know if you are interested.
Bring it on sir!

The Progressive Patriot

Apparently you’re challenging Mark but I’m going to chime in .On Head Start , I’ ll get back to you . I suspect that there is a mixed bag of data on it and you’re just using what supports your argument. Regarding A******n. I for one am not pro a******n. A******n is not a pleasant or desirable thing. However I am pro choice. There is a difference. I find that many anti a******n people are not really pro life as they like to say. They are pro fetus, pro birth and that’s where it begins and ends. I can respect pro life people if they are in fact pro life in all respects. Being pro life must encompasses all aspects of pregnancy , child bearing and parenting from meaningful sex education and contraception to prevent pregnancy to health care, child care , food stamps and everything needed to support , encourage and help people to care for children . And yes, gun control. Do you agree? Are you really pro life?

mark

Well JOHN if you are challaging me I was literally referring to the act of OBAMA talking to pepole ABOUT PRE SCHOOL and the Gop trolls on a form going nuts over it.

YOU LOSERS OPPOSE EVERYTHING OBAMA IS FOR AND SCREAM ABOUT WHAT HES DONE SO EITHER YOU REPUBLICANS OPPOSE EVERYTHING OBAMAS DONE AND WHAT HE SUPPORTS OR YOU SUPPORT EDUCATION YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.

barnbaby

@mark

Headstart is nothing more than taxpayer funded daycare freeing the sorry-azzed mothers to produce more siblings.

Kentoidi8 Loc: Ellenton, FL

That was not a rational argument Mark. Calling people trolls is ludicrous if you are trying to make a point and puts you into a category befitting a mindless Obama lemming. This type of program is a bone thrown to the teachers unions who will become super expensive baby sitters with no long term benefit to the children. Do you think capitalizing means something? Just as ludirous as the trolls comment. You can't make rocket scientists out of sales clerks who would be better served by having their parents make them read as much as possible.

The Progressive Patriot

Folks , lets stop cherry picking data to support your anti government -"everything gov. does is bad" agenda:
http://www.ffyf.org/blog/busting-myths-about-head-starts-effectiveness There is much evidence to the contrary. And Ken, If you stop calling us Obama Lemmings I wont call you a tea party goon. OK

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Kentoidi8 Loc: Ellenton, FL

You can call me anything you want but my background is 10-1/2 years working with Soviets with better part of last five years in the USSR. The Party there was the KCCP 2nd C standing for Socialist i.e. Marxist suffocating dictatorship.
The Obama similaritities have led me to call Obama a Marxist. You l*****t guys haven't figured out that under Obama everyone will be poor if his type of autocratic government reaches its goals. Nothing he has done so far with his class warfare approach leads me to change my mind about him.
Next time call me a patriot goon and I will get my walker and go to the next Tea Party celebration. As we would say in Pittsbrgh "Youns guys don't know what you're in for,"

The Progressive Patriot

I'm sure that you know a lot about life in the USSR. That makes it all the more puzzling why you would think that Obama is a Marxist.
When put into the perspective of history, Obama is far from the most “Socialistic president. In fact, actual socialists disown him: Frank Llewellyn, the National Director of the Democratic Socialists of America, the country's largest socialist organization, said Obama is most definitely not one of them. "He's not any kind of socialist at all. He called the president "a market guy," which is hardly a compliment coming from a man with serious reservations about market capitalism.

"He's not challenging the power of the corporations," Llewellyn added. "The banking reforms that have been suggested are not particularly far reaching. “Llewellyn offered his belief that Republicans have historically called opponents "socialists" in order to stop moderate reforms, and that the new stickiness of the Obama/socialist association is one part misinformation, one part ignorance. "The Republicans are doing the same thing they did when Roosevelt was president -- confusing somebody who is trying to save capitalism from itself with somebody who is trying to destroy it. (Obama) is not trying to destroy capitalism."

Yet, since Obama has been president, the level of hysteria about Socialism has been at a high not seen since the McCarthy era “c****e scare” . If Obama is, by some measure a Socialist, it is only in the long tradition of United States Presidents using government to level the playing field and improve the lives of people. There is no evidence whatsoever to support accusations that Obama is a Marxist and while not a pure Capitalist, he is no more of Socialist than many who came before him. The labels of “Socialist” and “Marxist “ stems from an ignorance these terms, as well as of history, distrust and fear of someone who is seen as different, and a measure of anti government hysteria and clinically diagnosable paranoia. The fear is simply not reality based.

The Progressive Patriot

I have long been fascinated by the intractable circular thinking among those on the right that goes something like this: “Those on the left are liberals and advocates of progressive causes, not to mention being unapologetic supporters of President Obama, therefore they are socialist. Why? Because Obama, and all liberals, are of course socialists. Those progressive causes include all social welfare programs and entitlements as well as any attempt to rein in the excesses of big business and the finance industry. Then, if they are socialists, they must also be f*****ts in the tradition of Hitler. After all, his party was the Nationalist Socialist German Worker’s Party and in fact he considered himself a socialist. A slight variation of this line of reasoning would substitute “Stalin,” who brought us the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. In either case, the thinking goes, these dangerous liberals/ socialists are really f*****ts, and the programs and policies that they support are inherently evil and intended to destroy the economy and undermine democracy. Yes, destroy America. Not as an unintended consequence of misguided policies; but to bring deliberate ruin upon the country

Kentoidi8 Loc: Ellenton, FL

Very simply I lived Marxism and that Obama's destructive policies are destroying my country like the Soviets destroyed theirs.