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May 16, 2024 17:07:24   #
American Vet
 
F.D.R. wrote:
NOT ALWAYS !!!! Seems you didn't fact check that.


Feel free to correct me with same data.

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May 16, 2024 18:33:30   #
dbirch
 
WinkyTink wrote:
Most people get it. Only a few are willing to let others know that they get it. Logic and common sense are all it takes.

The back and forth on sites such as these would be very different without the anonymity.

I'm not happy with your allusion to my age!


think your wisdom is beyond your years?

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May 17, 2024 12:15:32   #
DAV
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
Greed is a funny thing, but that's all this is. Must have been so easy to get $20, so let's go for $30. Raising the minimum wage to $20 hasn't done enough damage, especially fast food joints. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/california-s-workers-now-want-30-minimum-wage/ss-BB1mqlvt?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=9b595157b5214dcc9df7b1b3fcad42c4&ei=67


Tell the California workers that people in hell want ice water too. Is this another money grab by Newscum ?

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May 17, 2024 14:13:01   #
sail375
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
Greed is a funny thing, but that's all this is. Must have been so easy to get $20, so let's go for $30. Raising the minimum wage to $20 hasn't done enough damage, especially fast food joints. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/california-s-workers-now-want-30-minimum-wage/ss-BB1mqlvt?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=9b595157b5214dcc9df7b1b3fcad42c4&ei=67


I see a different America from most people, I suspect? I see a Dependent America with a very high degree of Opportunity. IF People can get past their Dependency and Entitlement Mindset. Those are roads to Failure and S***ery.

During my working life, I had nonunion and union jobs. I then started my own business from scratch. I sold that business to an employee and retired at age 60.

NAFTA and out of control Unions k**led America's manufacturing commerce. America globalized. It now produces very little of its own Consumption needs.

That means that America can be great again if that capacity to be self reliant is rebuilt and restored into an Independent Nation again.

Socialism in its many forms is chosen Failure by the People. I had the opportunity of the Viet Nam War and an assignment in South Korea to observe the tortures and atrocities of two Socialist Countries. North Viet Nam and North Korea. At the time, America was the Land of Opportunity.

S***ery gets no one anywhere. Dependency and Entitlement are programmed S***ery. The American People have chosen both as their mainstay Society. Today's America!

America must reject Democrats and Republicans if it is to survive. Both are destructive Socialist bodies who prey on the weak to join the Masses of Dependency and Entitlement Mindsets. There is no Freedom in that to Succeed.

Real Life is a progression of Successes and Failures. Mine was a business in Finance. I hired Professional and Non-Professional People. Apprenticeship was the name of our game. From Filing Clerk to Staff Accountant or Financial Planner, everyone had the opportunity to progress in our Company. If you had the desire to succeed.

As an Employer, I started employees at a fair wage for a beginner. As my business grew, so did those employees who wanted to succeed. If they worked hard and grew in qualification, their success was up to them. I supported my workforce by promoting from within, first.

$30 Minimum Wages will k**l the Minimum Wage Jobs. It already is. So, where do People go to learn their Apprenticeships? Because, all jobs of any kind have the ever perpetual Apprenticeship. Success is real life. Success is Progressing and serving your Apprenticeship to reach the next level.

My most valuable Apprenticeship was serving in the Military after high school. That was 1966. I was no Draft Dodger. I was an American Citizen. It required becoming an Adult Male. It required Learning way beyond my own Naivete. It required learning and beccming a Leader. It provided the benefits to succeed for the rest of my Life.

Above and beyond the popular Politics at the time, to which I refused to subscribe, America, the Land of Opportunity, was very good to me.

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May 17, 2024 14:21:15   #
Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa
 
sail375 wrote:
I see a different America from most people, I suspect? I see a Dependent America with a very high degree of Opportunity. IF People can get past their Dependency and Entitlement Mindset. Those are roads to Failure and S***ery.

During my working life, I had nonunion and union jobs. I then started my own business from scratch. I sold that business to an employee and retired at age 60.

NAFTA and out of control Unions k**led America's manufacturing commerce. America globalized. It now produces very little of its own Consumption needs.

That means that America can be great again if that capacity to be self reliant is rebuilt and restored into an Independent Nation again.

Socialism in its many forms is chosen Failure by the People. I had the opportunity of the Viet Nam War and an assignment in South Korea to observe the tortures and atrocities of two Socialist Countries. North Viet Nam and North Korea. At the time, America was the Land of Opportunity.

S***ery gets no one anywhere. Dependency and Entitlement are programmed S***ery. The American People have chosen both as their mainstay Society. Today's America!

America must reject Democrats and Republicans if it is to survive. Both are destructive Socialist bodies who prey on the weak to join the Masses of Dependency and Entitlement Mindsets. There is no Freedom in that to Succeed.

Real Life is a progression of Successes and Failures. Mine was a business in Finance. I hired Professional and Non-Professional People. Apprenticeship was the name of our game. From Filing Clerk to Staff Accountant or Financial Planner, everyone had the opportunity to progress in our Company. If you had the desire to succeed.

As an Employer, I started employees at a fair wage for a beginner. As my business grew, so did those employees who wanted to succeed. If they worked hard and grew in qualification, their success was up to them. I supported my workforce by promoting from within, first.

$30 Minimum Wages will k**l the Minimum Wage Jobs. It already is. So, where do People go to learn their Apprenticeships? Because, all jobs of any kind have the ever perpetual Apprenticeship. Success is real life. Success is Progressing and serving your Apprenticeship to reach the next level.

My most valuable Apprenticeship was serving in the Military after high school. That was 1966. I was no Draft Dodger. I was an American Citizen. It required becoming an Adult Male. It required Learning way beyond my own Naivete. It required learning and beccming a Leader. It provided the benefits to succeed for the rest of my Life.

Above and beyond the popular Politics at the time, to which I refused to subscribe, America, the Land of Opportunity, was very good to me.
I see a different America from most people, I susp... (show quote)


I agree with your post it is all true.
I believe everyone both male and female should serve their country in some way for at least 2 years after HS to help them mature instead going directly to college.

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May 17, 2024 14:28:25   #
dbirch
 
Oldsailor65 wrote:
I agree with your post it is all true.
I believe everyone both male and female should serve their country in some way for at least 2 years after HS to help them mature instead going directly to college.


agreed.

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May 17, 2024 15:19:47   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
sail375 wrote:
I see a different America from most people, I suspect? I see a Dependent America with a very high degree of Opportunity. IF People can get past their Dependency and Entitlement Mindset. Those are roads to Failure and S***ery.

During my working life, I had nonunion and union jobs. I then started my own business from scratch. I sold that business to an employee and retired at age 60.

NAFTA and out of control Unions k**led America's manufacturing commerce. America globalized. It now produces very little of its own Consumption needs.

That means that America can be great again if that capacity to be self reliant is rebuilt and restored into an Independent Nation again.

Socialism in its many forms is chosen Failure by the People. I had the opportunity of the Viet Nam War and an assignment in South Korea to observe the tortures and atrocities of two Socialist Countries. North Viet Nam and North Korea. At the time, America was the Land of Opportunity.

S***ery gets no one anywhere. Dependency and Entitlement are programmed S***ery. The American People have chosen both as their mainstay Society. Today's America!

America must reject Democrats and Republicans if it is to survive. Both are destructive Socialist bodies who prey on the weak to join the Masses of Dependency and Entitlement Mindsets. There is no Freedom in that to Succeed.

Real Life is a progression of Successes and Failures. Mine was a business in Finance. I hired Professional and Non-Professional People. Apprenticeship was the name of our game. From Filing Clerk to Staff Accountant or Financial Planner, everyone had the opportunity to progress in our Company. If you had the desire to succeed.

As an Employer, I started employees at a fair wage for a beginner. As my business grew, so did those employees who wanted to succeed. If they worked hard and grew in qualification, their success was up to them. I supported my workforce by promoting from within, first.

$30 Minimum Wages will k**l the Minimum Wage Jobs. It already is. So, where do People go to learn their Apprenticeships? Because, all jobs of any kind have the ever perpetual Apprenticeship. Success is real life. Success is Progressing and serving your Apprenticeship to reach the next level.

My most valuable Apprenticeship was serving in the Military after high school. That was 1966. I was no Draft Dodger. I was an American Citizen. It required becoming an Adult Male. It required Learning way beyond my own Naivete. It required learning and beccming a Leader. It provided the benefits to succeed for the rest of my Life.

Above and beyond the popular Politics at the time, to which I refused to subscribe, America, the Land of Opportunity, was very good to me.
I see a different America from most people, I susp... (show quote)


Thus is a good post.

If you want to describe the difference between the Trump administration and the Biden administration, I suggest you watch the movie Caddyschack from the 1980s.

Both real life and the movie describes two people. One a construction worker who worked his way up to being a successful billionaire. The other an elitist who became rich off the backs of honest workers.

Donald Trump is the construction worker. As a real estate tycoon who loved construction, he tends to speak like a construction worker. Anyone not in construction, doesn't understand his rough talk.

Then you have Biden. A man who was in politics for a greater part of his life. A man who became the establishment out of touch with those whom he makes money off of. A man who sees the world from an ivory tower, but neglects to come to the ground.

Times then change. Both men see the world in a different light. One builds while the other steals. One uses free enterprise and capitalism to build while the other uses Marxism, socialism, and other means to steal. Both men are rough.

But while the master builder is on the ground in touch with the people, the thief is in his elitist home wondering why the people don't love him.

This is Daddy's Caddyshack. Plain and simple.

That's all it is. The thief VS the builder. Its that simple.

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May 17, 2024 15:28:59   #
Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
Thus is a good post.

If you want to describe the difference between the Trump administration and the Biden administration, I suggest you watch the movie Caddyschack from the 1980s.

Both real life and the movie describes two people. One a construction worker who worked his way up to being a successful billionaire. The other an elitist who became rich off the backs of honest workers.

Donald Trump is the construction worker. As a real estate tycoon who loved construction, he tends to speak like a construction worker. Anyone not in construction, doesn't understand his rough talk.

Then you have Biden. A man who was in politics for a greater part of his life. A man who became the establishment out of touch with those whom he makes money off of. A man who sees the world from an ivory tower, but neglects to come to the ground.

Times then change. Both men see the world in a different light. One builds while the other steals. One uses free enterprise and capitalism to build while the other uses Marxism, socialism, and other means to steal. Both men are rough.

But while the master builder is on the ground in touch with the people, the thief is in his elitist home wondering why the people don't love him.

This is Daddy's Caddyshack. Plain and simple.

That's all it is. The thief VS the builder. Its that simple.
Thus is a good post. br br If you want to describ... (show quote)


Never v**e for someone who has never actually WORKED for a living.

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May 17, 2024 15:30:35   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Oldsailor65 wrote:
Never v**e for someone who has never actually WORKED for a living.


Wise statement.

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May 17, 2024 15:39:18   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Oldsailor65 wrote:
Never v**e for someone who has never actually WORKED for a living.


Lol good point!

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May 17, 2024 16:19:13   #
billy a Loc: South Florida
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
Thus is a good post.

If you want to describe the difference between the Trump administration and the Biden administration, I suggest you watch the movie Caddyschack from the 1980s.

Both real life and the movie describes two people. One a construction worker who worked his way up to being a successful billionaire. The other an elitist who became rich off the backs of honest workers.

Donald Trump is the construction worker. As a real estate tycoon who loved construction, he tends to speak like a construction worker. Anyone not in construction, doesn't understand his rough talk.

Then you have Biden. A man who was in politics for a greater part of his life. A man who became the establishment out of touch with those whom he makes money off of. A man who sees the world from an ivory tower, but neglects to come to the ground.

Times then change. Both men see the world in a different light. One builds while the other steals. One uses free enterprise and capitalism to build while the other uses Marxism, socialism, and other means to steal. Both men are rough.

But while the master builder is on the ground in touch with the people, the thief is in his elitist home wondering why the people don't love him.

This is Daddy's Caddyshack. Plain and simple.

That's all it is. The thief VS the builder. Its that simple.
Thus is a good post. br br If you want to describ... (show quote)


Ranger AND Sailor...Great posts...

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May 17, 2024 22:30:01   #
SeaLass Loc: Western Soviet Socialist Republics
 
pegw wrote:
More power to them if they get a decent, generous minimum wage


I take it you would be happy to pay something like $50 for a burger then? Remember the employer DOES NOT pay an employee's wages, the customer does! AND YOU are the customer. Also if a burger-flipper is getting $30/hr, just about everybody else's wages (including, horror of horrors, the "rich") will go up proportionally.

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May 17, 2024 22:31:38   #
SeaLass Loc: Western Soviet Socialist Republics
 
JFlorio wrote:
They will if the free markets support one. More than likely they’ll price themselves out of a job.




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May 17, 2024 22:35:09   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
SeaLass wrote:
I take it you would be happy to pay something like $50 for a burger then? Remember the employer DOES NOT pay an employee's wages, the customer does! AND YOU are the customer. Also if a burger-flipper is getting $30/hr, just about everybody else's wages (including, horror of horrors, the "rich") will go up proportionally.



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May 18, 2024 09:13:01   #
Big Kahuna
 
sail375 wrote:
I see a different America from most people, I suspect? I see a Dependent America with a very high degree of Opportunity. IF People can get past their Dependency and Entitlement Mindset. Those are roads to Failure and S***ery.

During my working life, I had nonunion and union jobs. I then started my own business from scratch. I sold that business to an employee and retired at age 60.

NAFTA and out of control Unions k**led America's manufacturing commerce. America globalized. It now produces very little of its own Consumption needs.

That means that America can be great again if that capacity to be self reliant is rebuilt and restored into an Independent Nation again.

Socialism in its many forms is chosen Failure by the People. I had the opportunity of the Viet Nam War and an assignment in South Korea to observe the tortures and atrocities of two Socialist Countries. North Viet Nam and North Korea. At the time, America was the Land of Opportunity.

S***ery gets no one anywhere. Dependency and Entitlement are programmed S***ery. The American People have chosen both as their mainstay Society. Today's America!

America must reject Democrats and Republicans if it is to survive. Both are destructive Socialist bodies who prey on the weak to join the Masses of Dependency and Entitlement Mindsets. There is no Freedom in that to Succeed.

Real Life is a progression of Successes and Failures. Mine was a business in Finance. I hired Professional and Non-Professional People. Apprenticeship was the name of our game. From Filing Clerk to Staff Accountant or Financial Planner, everyone had the opportunity to progress in our Company. If you had the desire to succeed.

As an Employer, I started employees at a fair wage for a beginner. As my business grew, so did those employees who wanted to succeed. If they worked hard and grew in qualification, their success was up to them. I supported my workforce by promoting from within, first.

$30 Minimum Wages will k**l the Minimum Wage Jobs. It already is. So, where do People go to learn their Apprenticeships? Because, all jobs of any kind have the ever perpetual Apprenticeship. Success is real life. Success is Progressing and serving your Apprenticeship to reach the next level.

My most valuable Apprenticeship was serving in the Military after high school. That was 1966. I was no Draft Dodger. I was an American Citizen. It required becoming an Adult Male. It required Learning way beyond my own Naivete. It required learning and beccming a Leader. It provided the benefits to succeed for the rest of my Life.

Above and beyond the popular Politics at the time, to which I refused to subscribe, America, the Land of Opportunity, was very good to me.
I see a different America from most people, I susp... (show quote)


It sounds like you should be touring the colleges in our country lecturing on positive thinking and dropping their "victimhood" card.

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