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Jan 10, 2015 20:56:43   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
NEWSMAX

Gorbachev Issues New Warning of Nuclear War Over Ukraine

Newsmax -- Saturday, 10 Jan 2015

Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev warned that tensions between Russia and European powers over the Ukraine crisis could result in a major conflict or even nuclear war, in an interview in a German news magazine on Saturday.

"A war of this kind would unavoidably lead to a nuclear war," the 1990 Nobel Peace Prize winner told Der Spiegel.

"We won't survive the coming years if someone loses their nerve in this overheated situation," added Gorbachev, 83. "This is not something I'm saying thoughtlessly. I am extremely concerned."

Tensions between Russia and Western powers rose after pro-Russian separatists took control of large parts of eastern Ukraine and Russia annexed Crimea in early 2014.

The United States, NATO and the European Union accuse Russia of sending troops and weapons to support the separatist uprising, and have imposed sanctions on Moscow.

Russia denies providing the rebels with military support and fends off Western criticism of its annexation of Crimea, saying the Crimean people v**ed for it in a referendum.

"The new Germany wants to intervene everywhere," he said in the interview. "In Germany evidently there are a lot of people who want to help create a new division in Europe."Gorbachev, who is widely admired in Germany for his role in opening the Berlin Wall and steps that led to Germany's reunification in 1990, warned against Western intervention in the Ukraine crisis.

The remarks by the elder statesman, whose "perestroika" (restructuring) policy helped end the Cold War, dramatically expand warnings he issued late last year. In November, he said a new cold war could be on the way, with potentially dire consequences, if tensions were not reduced over the Ukraine crisis.

"The world is on the brink of a new Cold War. Some are even saying that it has already begun," he said in a November interview.

The diplomatic standoff over Ukraine is the worst between Moscow and the West since the Cold war ended more than two decades ago.

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A couple of thoughts, why would Russia need 'nukes' against Europe??? Second because Obama & Putin are ass-hole buddy's this all European war would stay thay way if Obama is president, so that means Europe better be careful for the next two years... Don D.

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Jan 10, 2015 21:26:20   #
MrEd Loc: Georgia
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:

A couple of thoughts, why would Russia need 'nukes' against Europe??? Second because Obama & Putin are ass-hole buddy's this all European war would stay thay way if Obama is president, so that means Europe better be careful for the next two years... Don D.




I think you are making the same mistake a lot of people make about Russia. To begin with, Russia of today is not the Russia of yesterday. They cannot fight a real war with anyone. They just don't have that ability anymore. What they have are a lot of nukes that they can use, but not the Army they used to have. Most of the things he is doing is pure bluff and Obama has no idea how to handle him.

You have to understand one thing about Obama too. He is just a stooge and a mouth piece and was put in that office to do as he was told. He isn't doing all this on his own. How often, no matter who it is, do you think some unknown with zero experience can win that office? The only way that can happen is if there are some really big people behind him doing the things that must be done to make sure he is elected. If Obama had been on his own running for office, he wouldn't have gotten to first base, let alone hit a home run the first time around. It just doesn't happen. Never has and never will.

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Jan 10, 2015 21:33:34   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
MrEd wrote:
I think you are making the same mistake a lot of people make about Russia. To begin with, Russia of today is not the Russia of yesterday. They cannot fight a real war with anyone. They just don't have that ability anymore. What they have are a lot of nukes that they can use, but not the Army they used to have. Most of the things he is doing is pure bluff and Obama has no idea how to handle him.

You have to understand one thing about Obama too. He is just a stooge and a mouth piece and was put in that office to do as he was told. He isn't doing all this on his own. How often, no matter who it is, do you think some unknown with zero experience can win that office? The only way that can happen is if there are some really big people behind him doing the things that must be done to make sure he is elected. If Obama had been on his own running for office, he wouldn't have gotten to first base, let alone hit a home run the first time around. It just doesn't happen. Never has and never will.
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Jan 10, 2015 21:58:27   #
Navy Rob Loc: Hampton Roads Va
 
Any tac strike wont come from land base site. Thats too 90's.

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Jan 10, 2015 23:17:36   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
MrEd wrote:
I think you are making the same mistake a lot of people make about Russia. To begin with, Russia of today is not the Russia of yesterday. They cannot fight a real war with anyone. They just don't have that ability anymore. What they have are a lot of nukes that they can use, but not the Army they used to have. Most of the things he is doing is pure bluff and Obama has no idea how to handle him.

You have to understand one thing about Obama too. He is just a stooge and a mouth piece and was put in that office to do as he was told. He isn't doing all this on his own. How often, no matter who it is, do you think some unknown with zero experience can win that office? The only way that can happen is if there are some really big people behind him doing the things that must be done to make sure he is elected. If Obama had been on his own running for office, he wouldn't have gotten to first base, let alone hit a home run the first time around. It just doesn't happen. Never has and never will.
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I agree, twice... Don D. :thumbup:

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Jan 10, 2015 23:27:38   #
L8erToots
 
MrEd wrote:
I think you are making the same mistake a lot of people make about Russia. To begin with, Russia of today is not the Russia of yesterday. They cannot fight a real war with anyone. They just don't have that ability anymore. What they have are a lot of nukes that they can use, but not the Army they used to have. Most of the things he is doing is pure bluff and Obama has no idea how to handle him.

You have to understand one thing about Obama too. He is just a stooge and a mouth piece and was put in that office to do as he was told. He isn't doing all this on his own. How often, no matter who it is, do you think some unknown with zero experience can win that office? The only way that can happen is if there are some really big people behind him doing the things that must be done to make sure he is elected. If Obama had been on his own running for office, he wouldn't have gotten to first base, let alone hit a home run the first time around. It just doesn't happen. Never has and never will.
I think you are making the same mistake a lot of p... (show quote)


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