Finding Good Tenants From A Landlord's Perspective...It Isn't Easy: If I were a right winger things I say would have very strong agreement from those on the right, this issue I'm...

woodguru

If I were a right winger things I say would have very strong agreement from those on the right, this issue I'm talking about doesn't really have partisan divides, it's the common sense of what's right or wrong, and positions I take have nothing to do with politics or religion.

California is a very tough state as far as laws protecting landlords, more often than not the landlord will get screwed if they have a problem with a tenant. We have an apartment on our property that is over a second garage, it's a big garage with a work room to the side that goes the depth of the apartment, so it's a very roomy 1 bedroom with vaulted ceilings, a laundry room, and a nice kitchen...it also has a deck outside the living room with outrageous views of the Sierras.

As near as we can tell by other 1br apartments available and a friend that owns some low end apartments, he said we should be getting at least $1800 a month. We have people responding from Sacramento because a nicer apartment like this would be at least $2100.

Our last tenant was here for five years, and his rent only went up from $1000 to $1100 during that whole time, and that was because he wanted us to do some things for him that cost us extra money. We are looking for a good fit that has handyman type sk**ls so he can do the weed eating and yard maintenance things we have done, we figure we need a commitment of somewhere around 8 to 10 hours a week and we will pay $25hr that goes towards the rent every month. Part of this is that we have had a heck of a time the last few years finding reliable people even at $25 to $30 an hour that can get work done in a timely manner.

This is a screaming good deal, and we are looking for what feels like a really good fit, stable, money not a huge issue as there might not be much work for a few months during the winter, so we can't have someone who isn't working much that has a tough time with the whole rent. There is very little traffic through here, just a few close friends here and there, and we want a quiet person that's not a party animal.

That good person is not as easy to find as you might think...some of the guys that are doing handyman work that are any good are often making more than that, and if they are really busy they will have a tough time finding the time for our work, and they go to what they think is a viable default which would be paying us $1400 a month and we find someone else to do the work.

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

woodguru wrote:

If I were a right winger things I say would have very strong agreement from those on the right, this issue I'm talking about doesn't really have partisan divides, it's the common sense of what's right or wrong, and positions I take have nothing to do with politics or religion.

California is a very tough state as far as laws protecting landlords, more often than not the landlord will get screwed if they have a problem with a tenant. We have an apartment on our property that is over a second garage, it's a big garage with a work room to the side that goes the depth of the apartment, so it's a very roomy 1 bedroom with vaulted ceilings, a laundry room, and a nice kitchen...it also has a deck outside the living room with outrageous views of the Sierras.

As near as we can tell by other 1br apartments available and a friend that owns some low end apartments, he said we should be getting at least $1800 a month. We have people responding from Sacramento because a nicer apartment like this would be at least $2100.

Our last tenant was here for five years, and his rent only went up from $1000 to $1100 during that whole time, and that was because he wanted us to do some things for him that cost us extra money. We are looking for a good fit that has handyman type sk**ls so he can do the weed eating and yard maintenance things we have done, we figure we need a commitment of somewhere around 8 to 10 hours a week and we will pay $25hr that goes towards the rent every month. Part of this is that we have had a heck of a time the last few years finding reliable people even at $25 to $30 an hour that can get work done in a timely manner.

This is a screaming good deal, and we are looking for what feels like a really good fit, stable, money not a huge issue as there might not be much work for a few months during the winter, so we can't have someone who isn't working much that has a tough time with the whole rent. There is very little traffic through here, just a few close friends here and there, and we want a quiet person that's not a party animal.

That good person is not as easy to find as you might think...some of the guys that are doing handyman work that are any good are often making more than that, and if they are really busy they will have a tough time finding the time for our work, and they go to what they think is a viable default which would be paying us $1400 a month and we find someone else to do the work.

If I were a right winger things I say would have v... (show quote)

I never paid rent to do handyman work. That was the landlord's responsibility, it was his property, not mine. If I would have wanted to do handyman work back in the day, I would have bought a fixer-upper.

Turtle keeper

woodguru wrote:

If I were a right winger things I say would have very strong agreement from those on the right, this issue I'm talking about doesn't really have partisan divides, it's the common sense of what's right or wrong, and positions I take have nothing to do with politics or religion.

California is a very tough state as far as laws protecting landlords, more often than not the landlord will get screwed if they have a problem with a tenant. We have an apartment on our property that is over a second garage, it's a big garage with a work room to the side that goes the depth of the apartment, so it's a very roomy 1 bedroom with vaulted ceilings, a laundry room, and a nice kitchen...it also has a deck outside the living room with outrageous views of the Sierras.

As near as we can tell by other 1br apartments available and a friend that owns some low end apartments, he said we should be getting at least $1800 a month. We have people responding from Sacramento because a nicer apartment like this would be at least $2100.

Our last tenant was here for five years, and his rent only went up from $1000 to $1100 during that whole time, and that was because he wanted us to do some things for him that cost us extra money. We are looking for a good fit that has handyman type sk**ls so he can do the weed eating and yard maintenance things we have done, we figure we need a commitment of somewhere around 8 to 10 hours a week and we will pay $25hr that goes towards the rent every month. Part of this is that we have had a heck of a time the last few years finding reliable people even at $25 to $30 an hour that can get work done in a timely manner.

This is a screaming good deal, and we are looking for what feels like a really good fit, stable, money not a huge issue as there might not be much work for a few months during the winter, so we can't have someone who isn't working much that has a tough time with the whole rent. There is very little traffic through here, just a few close friends here and there, and we want a quiet person that's not a party animal.

That good person is not as easy to find as you might think...some of the guys that are doing handyman work that are any good are often making more than that, and if they are really busy they will have a tough time finding the time for our work, and they go to what they think is a viable default which would be paying us $1400 a month and we find someone else to do the work.

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Here’s the deal wood head.
First you mentioned common sense.
Libturds don’t have any common sense that’s why they are libturds. You said California
That is the land of fruits and nuts or fruits liking nuts something like that. So the pool of renters with common sense is extremely small AND they would have to put up with you as the landlord. You should pay them to live there…..

archie bunker Loc: Texas

woodguru wrote:

If I were a right winger things I say would have very strong agreement from those on the right, this issue I'm talking about doesn't really have partisan divides, it's the common sense of what's right or wrong, and positions I take have nothing to do with politics or religion.

California is a very tough state as far as laws protecting landlords, more often than not the landlord will get screwed if they have a problem with a tenant. We have an apartment on our property that is over a second garage, it's a big garage with a work room to the side that goes the depth of the apartment, so it's a very roomy 1 bedroom with vaulted ceilings, a laundry room, and a nice kitchen...it also has a deck outside the living room with outrageous views of the Sierras.

As near as we can tell by other 1br apartments available and a friend that owns some low end apartments, he said we should be getting at least $1800 a month. We have people responding from Sacramento because a nicer apartment like this would be at least $2100.

Our last tenant was here for five years, and his rent only went up from $1000 to $1100 during that whole time, and that was because he wanted us to do some things for him that cost us extra money. We are looking for a good fit that has handyman type sk**ls so he can do the weed eating and yard maintenance things we have done, we figure we need a commitment of somewhere around 8 to 10 hours a week and we will pay $25hr that goes towards the rent every month. Part of this is that we have had a heck of a time the last few years finding reliable people even at $25 to $30 an hour that can get work done in a timely manner.

This is a screaming good deal, and we are looking for what feels like a really good fit, stable, money not a huge issue as there might not be much work for a few months during the winter, so we can't have someone who isn't working much that has a tough time with the whole rent. There is very little traffic through here, just a few close friends here and there, and we want a quiet person that's not a party animal.

That good person is not as easy to find as you might think...some of the guys that are doing handyman work that are any good are often making more than that, and if they are really busy they will have a tough time finding the time for our work, and they go to what they think is a viable default which would be paying us $1400 a month and we find someone else to do the work.

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So.....you want someone to pay you rent, and do your yard work.....

Nah. I can (and do) work 8-10 hours a week overtime, and make more than twice what you're offering.
I'll pass, and pay wetbacks 5 bucks an hour to to the mowing, and stuff.

woodguru

We thought we had someone really good who responded to an ad I ran at the beginning of the month, semi retired but wants a part time truck driving job later in the summer. He gave me a $500 deposit (wanted me to take $4000 or a whole 6 months, he brought $15k). I told him the deposit was fine until we determined the first month's move in costs. He started coming and doing weed eating, 7hrs, 5hrs, and another 2 another day. He did great work, was quick, looked like someone who would work out fine. He kept bugging me to take $4k towards the move in, I told him with what he was making it wouldn't be that much, but I wrote him a receipt for the $500 and $4k.

He got all freaky about how the rent was documented but what he was making wasn't. I had said there were any number of ways we could show what was reflected in rent paid versus work done, but that we were not going to pay taxes on what he had worked off. He misunderstood that to mean we were not claiming the rent correctly and I told him we were doing it totally above board. He had a problem with any income being able to be documented back to him, and I told him we weren't going to be talking issuing a 1099 or anything, just that we were going to be claiming either yearly maintenance expenses, which meant the lower rent generated...not his problem.

My wife gave me the finger slicing the throat thing when he wasn't looking and told me to give him his $4500 back. He told me it was $4850 and I told my wife to write him a check, he said he banked at Wells Fargo as well.

woodguru

archie bunker wrote:

So.....you want someone to pay you rent, and do your yard work.....

Nah. I can (and do) work 8-10 hours a week overtime, and make more than twice what you're offering.
I'll pass, and pay wetbacks 5 bucks an hour to to the mowing, and stuff.

It's not for everybody, and there isn't a mexican in the area that works for less than $25hr. It's a super high end apartment at hundreds under fair market, it's quiet, great view, country type isolation. It's more for the type of person on a fixed income that has no problem with the work...and we aren't going all greedy at $1800 a month just because we can.

Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.

woodguru wrote:

If I were a right winger things I say would have very strong agreement from those on the right, this issue I'm talking about doesn't really have partisan divides, it's the common sense of what's right or wrong, and positions I take have nothing to do with politics or religion.

California is a very tough state as far as laws protecting landlords, more often than not the landlord will get screwed if they have a problem with a tenant. We have an apartment on our property that is over a second garage, it's a big garage with a work room to the side that goes the depth of the apartment, so it's a very roomy 1 bedroom with vaulted ceilings, a laundry room, and a nice kitchen...it also has a deck outside the living room with outrageous views of the Sierras.

As near as we can tell by other 1br apartments available and a friend that owns some low end apartments, he said we should be getting at least $1800 a month. We have people responding from Sacramento because a nicer apartment like this would be at least $2100.

Our last tenant was here for five years, and his rent only went up from $1000 to $1100 during that whole time, and that was because he wanted us to do some things for him that cost us extra money. We are looking for a good fit that has handyman type sk**ls so he can do the weed eating and yard maintenance things we have done, we figure we need a commitment of somewhere around 8 to 10 hours a week and we will pay $25hr that goes towards the rent every month. Part of this is that we have had a heck of a time the last few years finding reliable people even at $25 to $30 an hour that can get work done in a timely manner.

This is a screaming good deal, and we are looking for what feels like a really good fit, stable, money not a huge issue as there might not be much work for a few months during the winter, so we can't have someone who isn't working much that has a tough time with the whole rent. There is very little traffic through here, just a few close friends here and there, and we want a quiet person that's not a party animal.

That good person is not as easy to find as you might think...some of the guys that are doing handyman work that are any good are often making more than that, and if they are really busy they will have a tough time finding the time for our work, and they go to what they think is a viable default which would be paying us $1400 a month and we find someone else to do the work.

If I were a right winger things I say would have v... (show quote)

Raise the rent, screen the tenants and hire a respectable reliable landscaper. Then you end up with a better tenant and a good lawn. Low rents attract low quality.

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

woodguru wrote:

We thought we had someone really good who responde... (show quote)

So IOW, you were screwing him to your advantage.

woodguru

Turtle keeper wrote:

Here’s the deal wood head.
First you mentioned common sense.
Libturds don’t have any common sense that’s why they are libturds. You said California
That is the land of fruits and nuts or fruits liking nuts something like that. So the pool of renters with common sense is extremely small AND they would have to put up with you as the landlord. You should pay them to live there…..

I'm far easier to deal with than some MAGA flouting buttwipe always worrying what their neighbors are doing. The worst and stupidest tenants I've had were the ones who supported trump, they lasted less than a year. The last tenant I had was here 5 years, he was making a couple of hundred grand a year and drove a $125k Mercedes E55. He stayed out of my business and I stayed out of his. I did not bump his rent to the going rate because I could and he could afford it, unlike greedy sleaze bag country type landlords renting substandard crap at exorbitant rates.

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

woodguru wrote:

I'm far easier to deal with than some MAGA floutin... (show quote)

Of course you had to bring Trump into it.

Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.

woodguru wrote:

We thought we had someone really good who responde... (show quote)

So.... you were planning to c***t on your taxes!

archie bunker Loc: Texas

woodguru wrote:

It's not for everybody, and there isn't a mexican in the area that works for less than $25hr. It's a super high end apartment at hundreds under fair market, it's quiet, great view, country type isolation. It's more for the type of person on a fixed income that has no problem with the work...and we aren't going all greedy at $1800 a month just because we can.

So.....you want someone to pay you rent, and do your yard work.
I guess they need to take care of plumbing, HVAC, and electrical as well?

Dang! You're one generous dude!!

Effing dirtbag........

Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.

woodguru wrote:

I'm far easier to deal with than some MAGA floutin... (show quote)

I guess I'm a "MAGA flounting buttwipe but I've had the same tenant for ten years. He does all the house repairs and yard maintenance along with any other plumbing repairs on my other properties at cost. He is also a "MAGA flounting buttwipe". I am currently charging him 20% below market since he is such a good tenant.

The worst tenant I had in twenty five years was a entitled liberal high school teacher.

son of witless

woodguru wrote:

If I were a right winger things I say would have very strong agreement from those on the right, this issue I'm talking about doesn't really have partisan divides, it's the common sense of what's right or wrong, and positions I take have nothing to do with politics or religion.

California is a very tough state as far as laws protecting landlords, more often than not the landlord will get screwed if they have a problem with a tenant. We have an apartment on our property that is over a second garage, it's a big garage with a work room to the side that goes the depth of the apartment, so it's a very roomy 1 bedroom with vaulted ceilings, a laundry room, and a nice kitchen...it also has a deck outside the living room with outrageous views of the Sierras.

As near as we can tell by other 1br apartments available and a friend that owns some low end apartments, he said we should be getting at least $1800 a month. We have people responding from Sacramento because a nicer apartment like this would be at least $2100.

Our last tenant was here for five years, and his rent only went up from $1000 to $1100 during that whole time, and that was because he wanted us to do some things for him that cost us extra money. We are looking for a good fit that has handyman type sk**ls so he can do the weed eating and yard maintenance things we have done, we figure we need a commitment of somewhere around 8 to 10 hours a week and we will pay $25hr that goes towards the rent every month. Part of this is that we have had a heck of a time the last few years finding reliable people even at $25 to $30 an hour that can get work done in a timely manner.

This is a screaming good deal, and we are looking for what feels like a really good fit, stable, money not a huge issue as there might not be much work for a few months during the winter, so we can't have someone who isn't working much that has a tough time with the whole rent. There is very little traffic through here, just a few close friends here and there, and we want a quiet person that's not a party animal.

That good person is not as easy to find as you might think...some of the guys that are doing handyman work that are any good are often making more than that, and if they are really busy they will have a tough time finding the time for our work, and they go to what they think is a viable default which would be paying us $1400 a month and we find someone else to do the work.

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You are a capitalist landlord who continues to v**e Democrat. Something does not compute.

woodguru

Strycker wrote:

Raise the rent, screen the tenants and hire a respectable reliable landscaper. Then you end up with a better tenant and a good lawn. Low rents attract low quality.

We've only got the one apartment over the second garage, it isn't really the kind of work that's conducive to hiring a landscaper, it's weed eating and general maintenance type work. The biggest problem is the weed eating is time sensitive and needs to be kept up with three times or so so fox tails and stickers don't grow that get in our dog's paws.

My wife and I used to keep up with stuff but we are getting old and it's been a b***h finding good reliable people. This really is the perfect place and situation for the right person to do a few hours a week around the place and get their rent knocked down to $800 or so from an $1800 place.

The cost of handyman work has gotten ludicrous, guys want $85 an hour for things like rain gutter cleaning and rinsing off solar panels, they they try to flat rate you at $500 for four hours worth of work. The last guy that came out to do that said $500 for the 400 feet of gutters and to rinse off 30 panels, that's when I asked him what he liked to charge per hour and he said $85, I then asked him how long it was going to take him (I heard him tell someone on the phone he'd be done by noon and it was 9:30), he said a few hours and I pointed out that three hours at $85hr was not $500, it was under $250, I said I'd go $275, he said there was no way he could do it for that. I asked him, really, when you said you want to make $85 an hour you can't do it for a little over $85 an hour, what's with that? He said nope, and I told him here's the deal, you can do it for $275 for three hours worth of work and make your trip out here worthwhile, or you can leave and get nothing but a wasted hour.

He went ahead and did it. This is why Mexicans won't work for less than $35 an hour with their own tools, white people are making $85 an hour for general handyman cleanup stuff.