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May 24, 2023 11:44:45   #
American Scene
 
An inconvenient t***h, that mcarthy and his maga cons refuse to acknowledge



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May 24, 2023 11:57:27   #
pegw
 
So true. Not having a ballanced budget is at fault.

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May 24, 2023 12:26:10   #
Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle
 
Your boy F***i and his big pharma buddies TOOK YOUR MONEY.
Trump had things rolling. You g*******t c****e bastards screwed it up to the point of, we'll never see cheap ANYTHING ever again.

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May 24, 2023 12:57:59   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Rinaldi wrote:
An inconvenient t***h, that mcarthy and his maga cons refuse to acknowledge


It’s you demonrats and your out of control spending

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May 24, 2023 12:58:18   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
pegw wrote:
So true. Not having a ballanced budget is at fault.


Again, it’s demonrats

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May 24, 2023 12:58:40   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Sonny Magoo wrote:
Your boy F***i and his big pharma buddies TOOK YOUR MONEY.
Trump had things rolling. You g*******t c****e bastards screwed it up to the point of, we'll never see cheap ANYTHING ever again.


Exactly!

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May 24, 2023 14:11:46   #
Justice101
 
Rinaldi wrote:
An inconvenient t***h, that mcarthy and his maga cons refuse to acknowledge


In promoting his own spending priorities, President Joe Biden blamed his predecessor’s “unpaid tax cuts and other spending” for increasing the national debt by nearly $8 trillion over four years. The total debt figure is correct, but trillions of that were due to bipartisan c****av***s relief packages.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/biden-leaves-misleading-impression-on-u-s-debt/

https://reason.com/2022/11/29/bidens-spending-spree-is-unprecedented/
More than any time in recent history, the consequences of government over-spending are becoming apparent. Inflation continues to be well above the Federal Reserve's target, and the national debt recently topped $31 trillion for the first time in U.S. history—just eight months after it crossed $30 trillion. Yet few seem to connect these events with one of their underlying causes: President Joe Biden's continued spending binge.

Tacking on $1 trillion in debt in barely more than half a year used to be unheard of. But that norm went out the window when Biden's predecessor, President Donald Trump, turbocharged the national debt—even before he put federal spending on steroids in response to the C****-** p******c. What is shocking now, however, is that hardly anyone is paying attention to Biden's spending, even amid historic inflation.

For much of recent history, presidents have been able to get away with ignoring their campaign promises of fiscal responsibility. But as the bills are coming due for the U.S. economy, those days should be numbered.

Despite campaigning as a moderate, President Biden has dramatically accelerated federal spending during his time in office. He has now spent more in his first two years than President Trump did during his last two years at the height of the p******c.

Official estimates from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) show that, since January 2021, legislation signed by President Biden has set in motion a record $3.37 trillion in new spending, surpassing Trump's previous record of $3.28 trillion during the 116th Congress.

Like Trump, Biden has overseen significant p******c-related relief, but he also has ramped up spending on priorities well beyond C****-**. The American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA), passed in March 2021, cost $1.8 trillion, more than half of the new spending enacted during Biden's time in office.

But it's the other expensive legislation Biden has signed that pushed him past Trump. The much-vaunted Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act spent another $765 billion, though the infrastructure expenditures will occur over the course of the next five years. The Jon Stewart-promoted Promise to Address Comprehensive Toxics (PACT) Act contributed another $278 billion, while the recently passed CHIPS Act "chipped" in $255 billion more. And though congressional Democrats failed to pass Biden's Build Back Better legislation earlier this year, its eventual successor, the Inflation Reduction Act, is still estimated by the CBO to add another $51 billion to the federal ledger.

Of course, these new laws all represent spending carried out by Biden in consort with the Democratic-controlled Congress. But on top of everything Congress is doing, the president has taken numerous, expensive executive actions that make his impact on the federal budget even greater than official numbers indicate.

In response to a request from House Republicans, the CBO estimated in June that a number of the president's executive actions total another $532 billion, including interest expenses. The list of actions reviewed by the CBO include $300 billion for an expansion of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, $34 billion for the extension of various healthcare subsidies, and $85 billion for pauses in student loan repayment.

What's more, on the topic of student loans, Biden has since taken even greater actions. One estimate puts his most recent pause at another $40 billion, while the cost of fuller loan forgiveness would be more than $400 billion. Taken together, these add more than another $1 trillion in spending to Biden's legislative impact, and help explain how the administration racked up a whopping $4.8 trillion in new borrowing in just the last two years.

Meanwhile, this trend is scarcely noticed in the media or even by some congressional Republicans more interested in fighting the culture war.

It is worth considering how radical this new norm is. For example, in 2009, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA) spent more than $575 billion and was estimated by the CBO to raise the national debt by $787 billion over the subsequent decade. That legislation helped spark a nationwide backlash against Washington's spending, eventually culminating in the rise of the so-called "Tea Party" movement on the right.

In contrast, the bipartisan infrastructure bill will spend nearly $200 billion more than the ARRA and has been championed as a compromise—and the bill is not even the most expensive one passed during Biden's first two years. But few seem to object.

It seems that the Biden administration is determined to prove that deficits don't matter, and when it comes to media and public accountability, this may be the case. But the economy may prove that notion wrong. Instead of taking the opportunity to fix the egregious fiscal trends President Trump helped set in motion, Biden continues to carry on one of Trump's worst legacies as inflation remains high.

This is a strikingly ahistorical choice. A bit more than a decade ago, President Barack Obama, with his first term also occurring under united Democratic party rule, contributed just shy of $2.2 trillion in new spending during his time in office, or more than $1 trillion less than Biden. He was met with loud and sustained opposition.

While Obama eventually struck a compromise with congressional Republicans in the form of the Budget Control Act of 2011, it remains unclear if Biden will do the same. But if history is any guide, continued inflation may ultimately force a course correction. Political power, after all, can only be sustained so long without strong economic fundamentals.

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May 24, 2023 14:19:45   #
Rose42
 
Justice101 wrote:
In promoting his own spending priorities, President Joe Biden blamed his predecessor’s “unpaid tax cuts and other spending” for increasing the national debt by nearly $8 trillion over four years. The total debt figure is correct, but trillions of that were due to bipartisan c****av***s relief packages.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/biden-leaves-misleading-impression-on-u-s-debt/

https://reason.com/2022/11/29/bidens-spending-spree-is-unprecedented/
More than any time in recent history, the consequences of government over-spending are becoming apparent. Inflation continues to be well above the Federal Reserve's target, and the national debt recently topped $31 trillion for the first time in U.S. history—just eight months after it crossed $30 trillion. Yet few seem to connect these events with one of their underlying causes: President Joe Biden's continued spending binge.

Tacking on $1 trillion in debt in barely more than half a year used to be unheard of. But that norm went out the window when Biden's predecessor, President Donald Trump, turbocharged the national debt—even before he put federal spending on steroids in response to the C****-** p******c. What is shocking now, however, is that hardly anyone is paying attention to Biden's spending, even amid historic inflation.

For much of recent history, presidents have been able to get away with ignoring their campaign promises of fiscal responsibility. But as the bills are coming due for the U.S. economy, those days should be numbered.

Despite campaigning as a moderate, President Biden has dramatically accelerated federal spending during his time in office. He has now spent more in his first two years than President Trump did during his last two years at the height of the p******c.

Official estimates from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) show that, since January 2021, legislation signed by President Biden has set in motion a record $3.37 trillion in new spending, surpassing Trump's previous record of $3.28 trillion during the 116th Congress.

Like Trump, Biden has overseen significant p******c-related relief, but he also has ramped up spending on priorities well beyond C****-**. The American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA), passed in March 2021, cost $1.8 trillion, more than half of the new spending enacted during Biden's time in office.

But it's the other expensive legislation Biden has signed that pushed him past Trump. The much-vaunted Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act spent another $765 billion, though the infrastructure expenditures will occur over the course of the next five years. The Jon Stewart-promoted Promise to Address Comprehensive Toxics (PACT) Act contributed another $278 billion, while the recently passed CHIPS Act "chipped" in $255 billion more. And though congressional Democrats failed to pass Biden's Build Back Better legislation earlier this year, its eventual successor, the Inflation Reduction Act, is still estimated by the CBO to add another $51 billion to the federal ledger.

Of course, these new laws all represent spending carried out by Biden in consort with the Democratic-controlled Congress. But on top of everything Congress is doing, the president has taken numerous, expensive executive actions that make his impact on the federal budget even greater than official numbers indicate.

In response to a request from House Republicans, the CBO estimated in June that a number of the president's executive actions total another $532 billion, including interest expenses. The list of actions reviewed by the CBO include $300 billion for an expansion of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, $34 billion for the extension of various healthcare subsidies, and $85 billion for pauses in student loan repayment.

What's more, on the topic of student loans, Biden has since taken even greater actions. One estimate puts his most recent pause at another $40 billion, while the cost of fuller loan forgiveness would be more than $400 billion. Taken together, these add more than another $1 trillion in spending to Biden's legislative impact, and help explain how the administration racked up a whopping $4.8 trillion in new borrowing in just the last two years.

Meanwhile, this trend is scarcely noticed in the media or even by some congressional Republicans more interested in fighting the culture war.

It is worth considering how radical this new norm is. For example, in 2009, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA) spent more than $575 billion and was estimated by the CBO to raise the national debt by $787 billion over the subsequent decade. That legislation helped spark a nationwide backlash against Washington's spending, eventually culminating in the rise of the so-called "Tea Party" movement on the right.

In contrast, the bipartisan infrastructure bill will spend nearly $200 billion more than the ARRA and has been championed as a compromise—and the bill is not even the most expensive one passed during Biden's first two years. But few seem to object.

It seems that the Biden administration is determined to prove that deficits don't matter, and when it comes to media and public accountability, this may be the case. But the economy may prove that notion wrong. Instead of taking the opportunity to fix the egregious fiscal trends President Trump helped set in motion, Biden continues to carry on one of Trump's worst legacies as inflation remains high.

This is a strikingly ahistorical choice. A bit more than a decade ago, President Barack Obama, with his first term also occurring under united Democratic party rule, contributed just shy of $2.2 trillion in new spending during his time in office, or more than $1 trillion less than Biden. He was met with loud and sustained opposition.

While Obama eventually struck a compromise with congressional Republicans in the form of the Budget Control Act of 2011, it remains unclear if Biden will do the same. But if history is any guide, continued inflation may ultimately force a course correction. Political power, after all, can only be sustained so long without strong economic fundamentals.
In promoting his own spending priorities, Presiden... (show quote)


You are trying to reason with one who does not reason.

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May 24, 2023 14:32:30   #
Justice101
 
Rose42 wrote:
You are trying to reason with one who does not reason.


Why do you say that? This was one of his milder subjects to debate or make non-aggressive statements on.

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May 24, 2023 14:49:53   #
Rose42
 
Justice101 wrote:
Why do you say that? This was one of his milder subjects to debate or make non-aggressive statements on.


When was the last time you saw rinaldi give a reasoned answer?

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May 24, 2023 15:11:16   #
Justice101
 
Rose42 wrote:
When was the last time you saw rinaldi give a reasoned answer?


Folks on OPP were on the topic of i******s bringing in drugs that were k*****g citizens and were discussing the f******l crisis with kids dying and he mentioned that parents should be teaching their kids not to use pills on the street. I said that we needed to re-install the drug programs that they had in schools (when I attended) teaching kids what the dangerous drugs on the street were, and that they can lead to death. Rinaldi agreed. I don't save/archive past OPP posts like others here do, so I don't recall the EXACT conversation/post or title, but that was the gist of it as I remember, and it made an impression on me at the time.

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May 25, 2023 07:11:59   #
Rose42
 
Justice101 wrote:
Folks on OPP were on the topic of i******s bringing in drugs that were k*****g citizens and were discussing the f******l crisis with kids dying and he mentioned that parents should be teaching their kids not to use pills on the street. I said that we needed to re-install the drug programs that they had in schools (when I attended) teaching kids what the dangerous drugs on the street were, and that they can lead to death. Rinaldi agreed. I don't save/archive past OPP posts like others here do, so I don't recall the EXACT conversation/post or title, but that was the gist of it as I remember, and it made an impression on me at the time.
Folks on OPP were on the topic of i******s bringin... (show quote)


Its a shame he doesn’t do that more often.

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May 25, 2023 08:32:15   #
Justice101
 
Rose42 wrote:
Its a shame he doesn’t do that more often.


True. It was a good conversation.

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May 25, 2023 14:38:33   #
WEBCO
 
Spending more money than we bring in.

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May 25, 2023 15:19:53   #
SeaLass Loc: Western Soviet Socialist Republics
 
pegw wrote:
So true. Not having a ballanced budget is at fault.


Very true, but balancing the budget is the key, something that hasn't been done since the late 1950's.

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