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Jun 8, 2013 01:59:13   #
rumitoid
 
Sorry, the idea of well-reasoned and well-researched debate seems basic to me. Being honest, respectful, and keeping an open-mind imperative. Insulting the opposition seems a cheap trick to "win" the argument. That any and all insult by either side is not consider wrong and out of place in a discussion needs to be a standard. Hating each other does not resolve the very serious problems facing we the people.

If we truly want change and not to become a third rate nation, we need to come together in earnest and not push against with pre-supposed distrust and animosity.

I am not beyond engaging in an emotional binge, feeling ever so self-righteous (and condemning) when I hear a legislator who is well-educated say, "...legitimate rape." But I quickly cooled and looked to see what he might have meant. This is essential. Of course, there will be those women for obvious reasons and less than noble reasons that prefer others to think, by their accusations, that their pregnancy was an attack, not consensual. Ergo, not legitimate. Yet even such due consideration, on such an emotional issue, will invite accusations of insensitivity. Political correctness inhibits open discussion.

Tearing down is so much easier than building up. It takes courage, decency, and honor to build, ignoring the little minds who have neither the nerve nor the intelligence to look for solutions but only to exorcise their pain through hurting others.

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Jun 8, 2013 05:01:17   #
Ghost Loc: The 1st state to ever secede
 
rumitoid wrote:
Sorry, the idea of well-reasoned and well-researched debate seems basic to me. Being honest, respectful, and keeping an open-mind imperative. Insulting the opposition seems a cheap trick to "win" the argument. That any and all insult by either side is not consider wrong and out of place in a discussion needs to be a standard. Hating each other does not resolve the very serious problems facing we the people.

If we truly want change and not to become a third rate nation, we need to come together in earnest and not push against with pre-supposed distrust and animosity.

I am not beyond engaging in an emotional binge, feeling ever so self-righteous (and condemning) when I hear a legislator who is well-educated say, "...legitimate rape." But I quickly cooled and looked to see what he might have meant. This is essential. Of course, there will be those women for obvious reasons and less than noble reasons that prefer others to think, by their accusations, that their pregnancy was an attack, not consensual. Ergo, not legitimate. Yet even such due consideration, on such an emotional issue, will invite accusations of insensitivity. Political correctness inhibits open discussion.

Tearing down is so much easier than building up. It takes courage, decency, and honor to build, ignoring the little minds who have neither the nerve nor the intelligence to look for solutions but only to exorcise their pain through hurting others.
Sorry, the idea of well-reasoned and well-research... (show quote)


I like how operatives like you tout “keep an open mind” while in the mean time you seem to focus on the short comings of one side rather than both. I can see through that “can we all get along?” façade. I see how you zing the subject and hide behind the veneer of a reasonable mediator. I’m watching you.
How about practice what you preach before lecturing us, eh? You wouldn’t want to sound hypocritical…

You talk about not tearing each other down; this is how debate has been reduced to because both sides have strong feelings on it. How do you expect any kind of civility when someone talks about a good game about tolerance while at the same time they’re metaphorically slitting the throats of the opposing side?

That’s about as logical as “we’re going to kiss and make up but I’m going to beat the s**t out of you before we do and not going say I’m sorry.”

Progressives are sneaky which makes them perfect predators.

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Jun 8, 2013 06:29:29   #
OldGeorge
 
Your Post is just about the only sensible one i've read since i've been monitoring this mess. I think you and I are definitly in the wrong end of town! See y'all later, somewhere else!
rumitoid wrote:
Sorry, the idea of well-reasoned and well-researched debate seems basic to me. Being honest, respectful, and keeping an open-mind imperative. Insulting the opposition seems a cheap trick to "win" the argument. That any and all insult by either side is not consider wrong and out of place in a discussion needs to be a standard. Hating each other does not resolve the very serious problems facing we the people.

If we truly want change and not to become a third rate nation, we need to come together in earnest and not push against with pre-supposed distrust and animosity.

I am not beyond engaging in an emotional binge, feeling ever so self-righteous (and condemning) when I hear a legislator who is well-educated say, "...legitimate rape." But I quickly cooled and looked to see what he might have meant. This is essential. Of course, there will be those women for obvious reasons and less than noble reasons that prefer others to think, by their accusations, that their pregnancy was an attack, not consensual. Ergo, not legitimate. Yet even such due consideration, on such an emotional issue, will invite accusations of insensitivity. Political correctness inhibits open discussion.

Tearing down is so much easier than building up. It takes courage, decency, and honor to build, ignoring the little minds who have neither the nerve nor the intelligence to look for solutions but only to exorcise their pain through hurting others.
Sorry, the idea of well-reasoned and well-research... (show quote)

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Jun 9, 2013 04:10:19   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
OldGeorge wrote:
Your Post is just about the only sensible one i've read since i've been monitoring this mess. I think you and I are definitly in the wrong end of town! See y'all later, somewhere else!


Since registering, you have entered five messages. None of your messages had much to do with the topic, but was a push for everyone to read your (number may be wrong) 15 page dissertation on your ideas.

Because you received not the response, glory and adulation you sought, you have decided to leave here.

Insert airline pilot voice:

Thank you for joining us on your adventure. Please collect all messages as you leave.

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