The Tinfoil Hat Brigade Were Right! Yet more obozo scandals: So we all know one of these people. They all know that Barack Obama isnt a natural born U.S. citizen, their cellphone is...

The Dutchman

Yet more obozo scandals: So we all know one of these people. They all know that Barack Obama isnt a natural born U.S. citizen, their cellphone is being spied on, and the IRS is auditing them for no reason. I like to call them the Tinfoil Hats. Well, it appears now that they could have been right all along. We now know that they are two for three at least on this list.

In the last few weeks we have watched with amazement as one scandal after another has been unearthed about the shadowy side of the government and its various co-conspirators. We have listened to various everyday citizens as they have recounted excessive targeting and invasive personal questioning by the Internal Revenue Service. We have also seen the Justice Departments Gestapo like tactics against certain journalists and the Associated Press.

But now, today, we are faced with a whole new situation. The NSA apparently has received a warrant from what is being called a secret court, also known as a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, to compel Verizon Wireless to turn over all records of calls both domestically and internationally.

I would love to know how a FOREIGN intelligence court is able to compel domestic records.

This is very alarming. This data collection is set to continue into the middle of July unless the court of origin extends it. This gives the government the freedom to snoop on the cell phone calls of an estimated one in three Americans. There is no targeting of records for specific suspects, this is just my phone records or your phone records and the National Security Agency is free to go through them at their leisure.

Another disturbing issue here is that the NSA has an explicit charter to operate outside the United States and not to carry out surveillance on American citizens. However, one of the documents obtained by the UK newspaper who broke the story shows that the NSA has gone around their restrictions by having the FBI compel the records and then granting access to the NSA.

mikeytike

every one in federal government needs to be replaced

The Dutchman

mikeytike wrote:

every one in federal government needs to be replaced

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AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

The Dutchman wrote:

Yet more obozo scandals: So we all know one of these people. They all know that Barack Obama isnt a natural born U.S. citizen, their cellphone is being spied on, and the IRS is auditing them for no reason. I like to call them the Tinfoil Hats. Well, it appears now that they could have been right all along. We now know that they are two for three at least on this list.

In the last few weeks we have watched with amazement as one scandal after another has been unearthed about the shadowy side of the government and its various co-conspirators. We have listened to various everyday citizens as they have recounted excessive targeting and invasive personal questioning by the Internal Revenue Service. We have also seen the Justice Departments Gestapo like tactics against certain journalists and the Associated Press.

But now, today, we are faced with a whole new situation. The NSA apparently has received a warrant from what is being called a secret court, also known as a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, to compel Verizon Wireless to turn over all records of calls both domestically and internationally.

I would love to know how a FOREIGN intelligence court is able to compel domestic records.

This is very alarming. This data collection is set to continue into the middle of July unless the court of origin extends it. This gives the government the freedom to snoop on the cell phone calls of an estimated one in three Americans. There is no targeting of records for specific suspects, this is just my phone records or your phone records and the National Security Agency is free to go through them at their leisure.

Another disturbing issue here is that the NSA has an explicit charter to operate outside the United States and not to carry out surveillance on American citizens. However, one of the documents obtained by the UK newspaper who broke the story shows that the NSA has gone around their restrictions by having the FBI compel the records and then granting access to the NSA.

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As an arrogance on my part, go to my new forum NSA History. Use the link and read the article. DO NOT be out off by the "comrade conservative" phrase, it appears the author is being "tongue in check". You will find the discussion in the article on Constitutional issues interesting.

Yankee Clipper

The Dutchman wrote:

Yet more obozo scandals: So we all know one of these people. They all know that Barack Obama isnt a natural born U.S. citizen, their cellphone is being spied on, and the IRS is auditing them for no reason. I like to call them the Tinfoil Hats. Well, it appears now that they could have been right all along. We now know that they are two for three at least on this list.

In the last few weeks we have watched with amazement as one scandal after another has been unearthed about the shadowy side of the government and its various co-conspirators. We have listened to various everyday citizens as they have recounted excessive targeting and invasive personal questioning by the Internal Revenue Service. We have also seen the Justice Departments Gestapo like tactics against certain journalists and the Associated Press.

But now, today, we are faced with a whole new situation. The NSA apparently has received a warrant from what is being called a secret court, also known as a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, to compel Verizon Wireless to turn over all records of calls both domestically and internationally.

I would love to know how a FOREIGN intelligence court is able to compel domestic records.

This is very alarming. This data collection is set to continue into the middle of July unless the court of origin extends it. This gives the government the freedom to snoop on the cell phone calls of an estimated one in three Americans. There is no targeting of records for specific suspects, this is just my phone records or your phone records and the National Security Agency is free to go through them at their leisure.

Another disturbing issue here is that the NSA has an explicit charter to operate outside the United States and not to carry out surveillance on American citizens. However, one of the documents obtained by the UK newspaper who broke the story shows that the NSA has gone around their restrictions by having the FBI compel the records and then granting access to the NSA.

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Write to your service supplier and tell them while you realize that they feel they have to comply with the court order, you will give them 30 days to stop or you will drop their services. No customers, or fewer customers no cash flow and out of business. We can all get by without cell phones. There are computer programs that will give protection from snooping eyes. Just a thought.

The Dutchman

Yankee Clipper wrote:

Write to your service supplier and tell them while you realize that they feel they have to comply with the court order, you will give them 30 days to stop or you will drop their services. No customers, or fewer customers no cash flow and out of business. We can all get by without cell phones. There are computer programs that will give protection from snooping eyes. Just a thought.

The real s**t's is my in house phone, both cell phones, are verizon and my tablet and the brides laptop are when we are on the road uses a verizon jet pack and everything is bundled in. Pretty sweat package.....

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

The Dutchman wrote:

The real s**t's is my in house phone, both cell phones, are verizon and my tablet and the brides laptop are when we are on the road uses a verizon jet pack and everything is bundled in. Pretty sweat package.....

You have completely charmed me with the use of the phrase "the brides". :P

Yankee Clipper

The Dutchman wrote:

The real s**t's is my in house phone, both cell phones, are verizon and my tablet and the brides laptop are when we are on the road uses a verizon jet pack and everything is bundled in. Pretty sweat package.....

You got to do what you got to do. There has to me a way to apply pressure to stop this crap and the only way I know is to threaten you supplier, no matter how well you like them.

The Dutchman

AuntiE wrote:

You have completely charmed me with the use of the phrase "the brides". :P

Yep, 25 years and still my bride!