Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

Texas State Representative Bryan Slaton (R) filed the Texas Independence Referendum Act (H.B. 3569), or TEXIT, on March 6. If passed, it would allow v**ers in the 2024 e******n to decide “whether or not the State should investigate the possibility of Texas independence, and present potential plans to the Legislature.”

Simply put, if the act passes in the statehouse and gains Governor Greg Abbott’s signature, Texas v**ers will v**e on the possibility of Texas seceding from the United States. Once passed, the act would require the establishment of a joint interim “Texas Independence Committee” to study and recommend to the Legislature by December 31, 2024 the “most effective and expeditious method by which Texas may be returned to its status as an independent nation.”

“The Texas Constitution is clear that all political power resides in the people. After decades of continuous abuse of our rights and liberties by the federal government, it is time to let the people of Texas make their voices heard,” Slaton said in his press release. “Texas was born out of a desire for liberty and self-governance, and that desire continues to burn in the hearts of all Texans.”

The bill has the full support of the Texas Nationalist Movement (TNM), an organization of over 440,000 members fighting for the state’s independence. The group explains that “TEXIT is not Texas independence. Rather, TEXIT is the process that gets Texas to independence. TEXIT means that Texans determine our own laws and not 2.5 million unelected bureaucrats in Washington. It means that we get a government that begins and ends at the borders of Texas…. Most importantly, it means that for the first time in our lives we control our own destiny.”

Momentum for TEXIT appears to be strong among Texas v**ers. According to the Washington Examiner on March 6, TNM President Daniel Miller said that “Sixty-six percent of likely v**ers in Texas support this referendum coming up for a v**e.”

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

So many questions, same as when Quebec tried to opt out. Thousand of details.

Would the Fed close Fort Hood and all the other bases pulling out the over 100,000 personal and upending all of the people and businesses that depend on the military for their well being?

Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle

I subscribe to this channel

https://youtu.be/-VRWLJSsXmM

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

Wasn't that the site that had, I think her name was Liz Wheeler? I really liked her. Can you provide with a link to their website?

saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

Parky60, In case you didn't study the Civil War, and reconstruction era in Us history, the Civil War ended the question of whether a state my leave the Union. The answer is NO!

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

Do States Have the Right to Secede?
But what if we really do want to divide ourselves into actual separate nations? Could we do it?

The late U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia once wrote, “If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede."

Actually, there is.

What Scalia probably meant to say was that there is no unilateral right to secede. One state can't just say, “The heck with you, U.S.A. We're out of here."

What a state (or states) can do, however, is begin the process of seeking a mutually agreed upon parting of the ways, and that process clearly exists, set forth by the U.S. Supreme Court in its 1868 ruling in Texas v. White. That ruling concluded that a state (or states) could secede by gaining approval of both houses of Congress and then obtaining ratification by three fourths of the nation's legislatures. In other words, it's a tough task.

Texas v. White did, however, suggest another way a state might secede: “through revolution." That might be obvious, but it's a point that French, the author, focuses on when he talks about how a California exit could come about, as he did in the New York Times “The Argument" podcast on Oct. 30. It could happen, he suggests, if civil unrest becomes extreme, and the state and the nation simply agree to part ways to minimize the damage.

But let's not get ahead of ourselves.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

In no way did The War Against Confederate Secession settle the question of secession. In fact, when radical Republicans pressed for prosecution of Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee for treason, Union attorneys recommended against it because they had significant doubts as to whether Lincoln's position could be withstand trial examination.

Secession is not mentioned in The Constitution and not specifically forbidden to the states and thus by inevitable logic, the Ninth & Tenth Amendments, the right is retained by the states. In The Articles of Confederation the Union is stated to be in perpetuity in Te Preamble. Not so in The Constitution.

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

It might be constitutionally possible but is it logistical and financially possible? I watched the video. Will Texans benefit?

American Vet

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

Do you believe that morals would be better in a Red America?

The red states have just as much or in some cases more ‘sin’.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

As I am sure you don't care, it's their decision and they have to accept the consequences. Isn't it so liberal of you to care about prosperity without regard to principle. Prosperity results from freedom.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

And further, Rascal Riley, as I am sure you are not aware as few others are, the Confederate States of America never surrendered. Robert E. Lee surrendered command of The Army of Northern Virginia. Skirmishes and full blown battles did continue.

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

For a few.

Such tribalism. It is time most Americans realize their are other people just as exceptional as they are. In fact there are countries less likely to implode than the USA. Scary for the world.

Will the GOP default on the debt? Repercussions?

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

What is tribal about anything I wrote? Congratulations on your ability to muddy the waters with irrelevancy. This thread started with Texan secession.

Yes, we are teetering on edge of default but those debts are hardly the sole responsibility of the GOP. The Democratic socialists have at least as much culpability.

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

Yes Democrats are also responsible for letting it get out of hand.

Tribalism is what is fuelling the succession movement.