CarolBinkley Loc: Somewhere in Time

Unintended? LaPlace told Napoleon he had no need of a concept of "God". And the consequences?

The French Revolution was not a good thing, CME. The end did NOT justify the means. There are other ways. Ways in which adult human beings do not need to act like spoiled children. And Madame DeFarge would not be sitting there knitting, as the tumblers go rattling by. And LaVoisier, brilliant chemist, would not have been guillotined, and Napoleon would not have had a chance to come on by and then go on to try to conquer the world. And the Germans, after the elimination of the Holy Roman Empire would not have, under Bismarck, revived an Empire, which led to the Kaiser opting for a German path through the Balkans and a railway through to Baghdad, and Clemenceau would not have bethought himself as God, though an atheist, and took it upon himself to wreak vengeance on the German people, and Hitler would never have had a chance to rise up and attempt to conquer the world.

And on the philosophical side, Kant and Hegel, would not have busted a gut trying, like Leibniz before them, to make something good out of something bad, leading Marx, an i***t, to believe that all conflict was due to economic ine******y and Engels, out of guilt, to bolster and substantiate his theories, and impose a perverted sense of man's nature on gullible peoples, so that Lenin, out of h**e for the retribution brought upon his older brother for an attempted i**********n, gained control of the Russian state, eventually murdering a caring leader and his family and Mao and Ho and Un would not have attempted to control THEIR peoples which could only have been done through excessive persecution and the murder of millions...

Have I left anything out? Oh yeah, and so the Twentieth Century happened. And it wasn't a good one.

(CME is a poster on RT)

manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

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Only a few centuries of philosophical, political and theological exposition that set many things in place for your skinny little screed. An historian you are not.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Are you challenging Carol to a "history off?"

CarolBinkley Loc: Somewhere in Time

Are you so dense? It was "Why the Twentieth Century in a Nutshell". I***t.

CarolBinkley Loc: Somewhere in Time

Thanks. That i***t can't even Cliff Notes from Braudel.

manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

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You simply played the cause and effect game, across that century, fine, but causes and effects trace backwards for eons, which says that far back history might alter your entire screed. So, how can you justify your initial conditions while ignoring what went before and went in parallel? This was a "just so" story, that could have had an infinite set of entirely different threads. Sort of useless nonsense.

CarolBinkley Loc: Somewhere in Time

Good. Wh**ever. Then you will no longer reply to me. I don't need it, or you.

manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

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Just the logic of her screed. The web of ideas is far broader than she depicted.

manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

You do need help, to make your posts more believable. I reply as I choose, not as you dictate.

Smedley_buzkill

Praesens natus est in praeterito. The Twentieth Century did not just "happen." It was shaped by events of the past, sometimes several hundred years. The philosophies of Kant, Hegel, Liebniz et, al, and also Marx, did not just appear ex nihilo.

manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

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Quite so! And the point of departure for a century of ideas is in reality a broad line of many contributions and a very tangled web of interactions.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

He's no match for you.

Smedley_buzkill

Don't tempt me.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Go for it!

CarolBinkley Loc: Somewhere in Time

nwtk, I don't have time for the foolish ones, in particular M5, whom I find to be one of the creepy ones. He makes my skin crawl. Although both have some idea that engaging me would do..."something" for them; I'm not yet sure what that something is. Neither are interested in a discussion of history, or historical writing. It may have something to do with accessing power or control...or "something". Prestige? To tell the t***h, I'd rather talk to either Susan B. Lange or Steve700. Remember him?

As time wears on, I have less and less patience with the foolish libs/Lefties on this site; you know, those who can not tell the difference between ignorance, stupidity, and folly.