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Parent thanks Utah for book banning law that makes it 'so much easier' to challenge the 'sex-ridden' Bible
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Mar 27, 2023 14:10:04   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/parent-thanks-utah-book-banning-153417229.html

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Mar 27, 2023 14:49:42   #
billlingle
 
This is hilarious. I suppose that it is tempting to "protect" ones children by pretending that "real" American families are the ones modeled after Leave it to Beaver and Father Knows Best and that babies come from storks but to attempt to ban or to editorialize the Bible seems to have become the final punchline. Is it because it documents Jewish history throughout the Old Testament in all of its humanity including the fact that reproduction frequently includes lust and jealousy and that sex doesn't only occur through a hole the sheet? Is it beyond the scope of human understanding that the New Testament deals with prostitutes, incest and orgies and after all these years hasn't managed to turn the entire human race into a drooling mass of half naked bands roaming the woods in search of women, men and small furry animals with which to have their "way"?

The fact that this is happening in Utah is another reason to smile. I have not read the Book of Mormon and must admit that it is not on my bucket list. I don't know if mormons procreate through virgin birth but I suspect not. I understand that the Bible holds a position of #2 behind the Book of Mormon. That might provide a bit of freedom when it comes to criticizing the Bible but, again, my knowledge regarding Mormonism is rather slim. I have worked with large groups that consisted primarily of Mormons and have found them to be solid in their beliefs and actions but still not of the sort who would attack a book like the Bible as being lascivious based on my observations.

I am waiting for "highly moral right" to ban Mary had a Little Lamb based on questionable paternity.

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Mar 27, 2023 15:02:50   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Bad Bob wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/parent-thanks-utah-book-banning-153417229.html


'sex-ridden' Bible?

Only an ignorant pagan hypocrite would see it that way.

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Mar 27, 2023 17:34:00   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
'sex-ridden' Bible?

Only an ignorant pagan hypocrite would see it that way.

Lots of boobs and other explicit stuff.

https://www.alternet.org/2015/04/8-freakiest-sex-things-bible

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Mar 27, 2023 18:00:14   #
albertk
 
RascalRiley wrote:



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Mar 27, 2023 18:00:57   #
FallenOak Loc: St George Utah
 
Bad Bob wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/parent-thanks-utah-book-banning-153417229.html


Everywhere you look in Utah now there are cars with California plates. These move-ins are bringing their crackpot political ideas with them.
I agree with Gov Cox. He said, welcome to Utah, have fun and recreate, when finished, go home.

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Mar 27, 2023 18:09:48   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Like I said, "Only an ignorant pagan hypocrite would see it that way."

Alternet.

Alter: verb, to change, make different, revise, recast, modify, rewrite, t***sform, mutate, redo.

Net: noun, a device for catching suckers.

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Mar 27, 2023 18:20:39   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Like I said, "Only an ignorant pagan hypocrite would see it that way."

Alternet.

Alter: verb, to change, make different, revise, recast, modify, rewrite, t***sform, mutate, redo.

Net: noun, a device for catching suckers.

Don’t shoot the messenger. Look up the Bible passages.

AlterNet did not make it up. Denial of facts you don’t like does not make them made up.

There are dozens and dozens of web sites sighting sources of sex in the Bible.

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Mar 27, 2023 18:52:27   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Don’t shoot the messenger. Look up the Bible passages.

AlterNet did not make it up. Denial of facts you don’t like is does not make them made up.

There are dozens and dozens of web sites sighting sources of sex in the Bible.
What do you mean "look up Bible passages"?

I reckon I'd follow your advise if I had studied the Bible as long and as thoroughly as you have.

Yes, by God, there is sex in the Bible, the Bible is filled with humans and humans have sex.
However, What does the Bible say about sex?

The Bible reveals that sex (sexual intercourse) is God’s good gift to human beings. Like all of God’s good gifts, sex has been used for both good and evil throughout all of history.

God’s command to Adam and Eve, delivered with His blessing, to "be fruitful and increase in number" (Genesis 1:28) implies the necessity of their having sex. Later, we read that "Adam made love to his wife Eve" (Genesis 4:1), with the result that a son was born. Besides expanding the human race, God designed sex for the physical, emotional, and spiritual union between one man and one woman for life (Genesis 2:18, 23–24; Matthew 19:4–6; 1 Corinthians 7:32–34). God’s design for sex between a married man and woman is good and honorable (Hebrews 13:4). There is nothing shameful, dirty, or dishonorable about sex; in fact, in their state of innocence, "the man and his wife were both naked, and they were not ashamed" (Genesis 2:25).

God created us as sexual beings, so it stands to reason that Scripture has plenty to say about sex. The Bible contains more warnings and prohibitions against its misuse than it does prescriptions for its healthy and proper enjoyment. The following is a brief review of both:

The Bible's prohibitions against the misuse of sex:

The most complete list of prohibited sexual relations is found in the Mosaic Law. Leviticus 18 contains prohibitions against sex with close relatives, with those of the same sex, and with animals (Leviticus 18:6–23). Scripture calls these sexual relations "detestable things" or "a*********ns" (verses 26 and 29), by which individuals and nations were "defiled" (verses 27–28, 30). Adultery (sex with a married person other than one's spouse) was punishable by death for both participants (Leviticus 20:10–12), while pre-marital sex was "punished" by forced marriage (Exodus 22:16). Rape also carried a death sentence.

The New Testament reiterates most of these prohibitions. John the Baptist condemned King Herod for marrying his brother's wife (Mark 6:18); same-sex activity is called "shameful lusts" and condemned for both men women (Romans 1:26–27); and those who practice sexual perversion are warned they have no place in God’s kingdom (1 Corinthians 6:9). Jesus condemned not only physical adultery, but also adultery in one's mind or heart, which would include pornography (Matthew 5:27–32). Prostitution is condemned in both Old and New Testaments (Deuteronomy 23:18; 1 Corinthians 6:16–17); at the same time, the Bible provides examples of forgiveness extended to prostitutes, from Rahab (Joshua 6:25) to the woman caught in adultery (John 8:1–11). Rahab was accepted into Israel and honored for her faith (Hebrews 11:31), and Jesus forgave the woman in John 8, telling her, "Go now and leave your life of sin" (John 8:11).

God has always made allowances for human weakness regarding sex. He h**es divorce—it is always wrong except for victims of adultery and abandonment—and those who marry after divorce are considered adulterers in God’s eyes (Matthew 19:9; 1 Corinthians 7:10–15). Yet God made a provision for divorce in His law, knowing the weakness and wickedness of the human heart (Matthew 19:7–8). Christ's disciples, understanding God’s real view of divorce, said in that case "it is better not to marry" (verse 10). Jesus explained to them that refraining from marriage (and therefore from sex) is a gift given to very few people (verses 11–12). Paul was celibate, while Peter had a wife (1 Corinthians 9:5). Neither sinned, and both served the Lord in the condition in which they were called (1 Corinthians 7:24).

Another allowance God made concerning sex in the Old Testament was polygamy (multiple spouses in the same marriage, usually one husband with two or more wives). Although several Bible characters had polygamous marriages, polygamy itself is never explicitly approved in Scripture, and the multiple-wives arrangement frequently led to problems (Genesis 30; 1 Kings 11:1–6). Clearly, God’s original design was for marriage to be between one man and one woman (Matthew 19:4–6). Polygamy is directly forbidden for church leaders (1 Timothy 3:2, 12; 5:9; Titus 1:5–6).

The Bible's prescriptions for the proper use and enjoyment of sex:

The Bible's most explicit depiction of sexual love within marriage is the wonderful poem The Song of Solomon, especially chapters 4 and 5. In these chapters, the newlywed couple explore each other's bodies, uttering words of delight, wonder, and commitment. After establishing the metaphor of love-making as a garden filled with excellent fruits, the lovers are told, "Eat, friends, and drink; drink your fill of love" (Song of Solomon 5:1). God obviously approves of their sexual union.

The act of sex within marriage is also approved in Proverbs 5:19, where the husband is told, "May [your wife's] breasts satisfy you always, may you ever be intoxicated with her love." The Law of Moses provided a one-year exemption from military duty for a newlywed man to let him "stay at home and bring happiness to the wife" (Deuteronomy 24:5).

First Corinthians contains instructions concerning sex from the Christian perspective. Paul says that celibacy is best, but people should marry rather than "burn with passion" (1 Corinthians 7:8–9). Sex within marriage is good and right and is a preventative of sexual immorality: "Each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband" (1 Corinthians 7:2). In the Christian view, wives and husbands have equal "authority" over each other's bodies; sex is a "marital duty" that both husband and wife should strive to fulfill (1 Corinthians 7:3–4). Any abstention from sex within a marriage should be temporary: "Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may dev**e yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control" (1 Corinthians 7:5).

The "marriage bed"—a clear reference to sexual relations—must be "kept pure" (Hebrews 13:4). Christians are to "flee from sexual immorality," and for good reason: "All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body" (1 Corinthians 6:18).

We are called to be "salt and light" in our dark and tasteless world (Matthew 5:13–16). The lost need to see what true love within a marriage looks like. Sexual purity is to be a hallmark of the Body of Christ (Acts 15:29; Colossians 3:5). "But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people" (Ephesians 5:3).

All aspects of marriage, including sex, glorify God and reveal His attributes—that He is love, that He is faithful, protective, sacrificial, committed, etc. (1 John 4:16; 1 Corinthians 13). That is one reason sex is not to be abused. Marriage is also the picture God uses to describe His eventual union with the redeemed as the future pure and glorious bride of Christ (2 Corinthians 11:2; Ephesians 5:32; Revelation 21:2, 9).


Now, speak only of what you know, or STFU.

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Mar 27, 2023 19:10:37   #
billlingle
 
FallenOak wrote:
Everywhere you look in Utah now there are cars with California plates. These move-ins are bringing their crackpot political ideas with them.
I agree with Gov Cox. He said, welcome to Utah, have fun and recreate, when finished, go home.



The cars with California plates don't carry people who v**e in Utah. They carry tourists. Utah has 5 national parks. The lunacy is coming from the lunatics. They have been under the radar from the beginning of time. The fact that today's world is now governed by lunatics has given them the balls to express themselves. That's what you're seeing. This is not seen in California as the lunatics have been free to express themselves and do it on a daily basis. This eliminates most of the surprises.

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Mar 27, 2023 19:12:12   #
billlingle
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Don’t shoot the messenger. Look up the Bible passages.

AlterNet did not make it up. Denial of facts you don’t like does not make them made up.

There are dozens and dozens of web sites sighting sources of sex in the Bible.




No need to go to web sites. The original text is everywhere.

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Mar 27, 2023 21:31:11   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
billlingle wrote:
No need to go to web sites. The original text is everywhere.
And what about the original text?

If you have something to say, then say it,
rather than making nonsensical statements.

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Mar 28, 2023 13:19:14   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
billlingle wrote:
This is hilarious. I suppose that it is tempting to "protect" ones children by pretending that "real" American families are the ones modeled after Leave it to Beaver and Father Knows Best and that babies come from storks but to attempt to ban or to editorialize the Bible seems to have become the final punchline. Is it because it documents Jewish history throughout the Old Testament in all of its humanity including the fact that reproduction frequently includes lust and jealousy and that sex doesn't only occur through a hole the sheet? Is it beyond the scope of human understanding that the New Testament deals with prostitutes, incest and orgies and after all these years hasn't managed to turn the entire human race into a drooling mass of half naked bands roaming the woods in search of women, men and small furry animals with which to have their "way"?

The fact that this is happening in Utah is another reason to smile. I have not read the Book of Mormon and must admit that it is not on my bucket list. I don't know if mormons procreate through virgin birth but I suspect not. I understand that the Bible holds a position of #2 behind the Book of Mormon. That might provide a bit of freedom when it comes to criticizing the Bible but, again, my knowledge regarding Mormonism is rather slim. I have worked with large groups that consisted primarily of Mormons and have found them to be solid in their beliefs and actions but still not of the sort who would attack a book like the Bible as being lascivious based on my observations.

I am waiting for "highly moral right" to ban Mary had a Little Lamb based on questionable paternity.
This is hilarious. I suppose that it is tempting ... (show quote)


Mormons are not Christian’s they are a cult! My father was born in park city Utah! He left that cult! They have many strange beliefs such as not believing in the cross! They don’t allow it in their church! That should tell you everything! The Bible warns against adding to or taking away from Gods word! Nuff said

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Mar 28, 2023 13:22:23   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Don’t shoot the messenger. Look up the Bible passages.

AlterNet did not make it up. Denial of facts you don’t like does not make them made up.

There are dozens and dozens of web sites sighting sources of sex in the Bible.

We are all born into sin the Bible tells us the way out! Through Jesus! Of course there’s sec in the Bible it is sin! Paul warns us to not fall into sexual sin! The Bible is about humans seeking God! With human frailties!

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Mar 28, 2023 13:38:28   #
son of witless
 
Bad Bob wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/parent-thanks-utah-book-banning-153417229.html


I thought liberals got the Bible banned decades ago ?

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