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Mar 17, 2023 20:25:28   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
keepuphope, I believe that freedom of speech is extremely important, but not absolute. You may not lie about a person with the goal of hurting his, or her reputation. Thats slander. You may not threaten to use force against an individual, or disrupt the educational process in a classroom, and no yelling "fire " in a crowded theater unless the fire is real.
Having said that freedom of speech is essential, I do believe that people must be held accountable for what they say. I will defend your right to say things I don't like, but I may lose respect for your political opinion, as would many others.
keepuphope, I believe that freedom of speech is ex... (show quote)


And we have lost respect for your political opinion, as would many others.

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Mar 17, 2023 21:43:30   #
BIRDMAN
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
keepuphope, I believe that freedom of speech is extremely important, but not absolute. You may not lie about a person with the goal of hurting his, or her reputation. Thats slander. You may not threaten to use force against an individual, or disrupt the educational process in a classroom, and no yelling "fire " in a crowded theater unless the fire is real.
Having said that freedom of speech is essential, I do believe that people must be held accountable for what they say. I will defend your right to say things I don't like, but I may lose respect for your political opinion, as would many others.
keepuphope, I believe that freedom of speech is ex... (show quote)



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Mar 18, 2023 10:28:08   #
pegw
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
I just watched an interview with Steve Lukather, one of the best guitarists in the world. He gave a FREE seminar at UC Berkeley, and was disinvited to ever come back because he told a joke that one, count 'em, ONE butthurt lesbian found "offensive." The vast majority of attendees, including the Dean of the School of Music, found it hilarious. It took one offended d**e to screw the program for everyone. Even Liberal musicians (make no mistake, Lukather is Liberal) can't catch a break from the wokesters.
I just watched an interview with Steve Lukather, o... (show quote)

You are an example of what I see as very declasse. You used a h********c slur. Steve Lukather told an off color dirty joke. If he was so clueless and didn't know it was unacceptable to a college audiance, he shouldn't have given a lecture at a college.

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Mar 18, 2023 11:23:26   #
BIRDMAN
 
pegw wrote:
You are an example of what I see as very declasse. You used a h********c slur. Steve Lukather told an off color dirty joke. If he was so clueless and didn't know it was unacceptable to a college audiance, he shouldn't have given a lecture at a college.



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Mar 18, 2023 14:27:13   #
LostAggie66 Loc: Corpus Christi, TX (Shire of Seawinds)
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
keepuphope, I believe that freedom of speech is extremely important, but not absolute. You may not lie about a person with the goal of hurting his, or her reputation. Thats slander. You may not threaten to use force against an individual, or disrupt the educational process in a classroom, and no yelling "fire " in a crowded theater unless the fire is real.
Having said that freedom of speech is essential, I do believe that people must be held accountable for what they say. I will defend your right to say things I don't like, but I may lose respect for your political opinion, as would many others.
keepuphope, I believe that freedom of speech is ex... (show quote)


Very well said saltwind. We are on the same page on this matter

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Mar 18, 2023 17:01:09   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Their loss...

What was the joke?


Something about a guy who was, shall we say excessively endowed? Lukather has recorded on more than 1500 albums. He did work on Michael Jackson's Thriller, played with Boz Scaggs, is one of the original founding members of Toto. Remember the guitar solo on Lionel Richie's "Running With The Night?" That was Lukather. He has won five Grammys, but he can't come back to UC Berkely because he offended some butthurt d**e during a FREE seminar he normally charges quite a bit of money for.

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Mar 18, 2023 17:07:49   #
keepuphope Loc: Idaho
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
Something about a guy who was, shall we say excessively endowed? Lukather has recorded on more than 1500 albums. He did work on Michael Jackson's Thriller, played with Boz Scaggs, is one of the original founding members of Toto. Remember the guitar solo on Lionel Richie's "Running With The Night?" That was Lukather. He has won five Grammys, but he can't come back to UC Berkely because he offended some butthurt d**e during a FREE seminar he normally charges quite a bit of money for.


They ruin everything they are involved in the big boobs.What miserable human beings so focused on how they feel because their sooo important.

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Mar 19, 2023 11:17:44   #
pegw
 
Did anyone notice how Free Speach has become a thing since Faux News was outed for saying the e******n was s****n when they knew it wasn't true?

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Mar 19, 2023 11:28:48   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
pegw wrote:
Did anyone notice how Free Speach has become a thing since Faux News was outed for saying the e******n was s****n when they knew it wasn't true?


There’s free speech and there’s stupid speech. You’re both.

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Mar 19, 2023 14:03:03   #
LostAggie66 Loc: Corpus Christi, TX (Shire of Seawinds)
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
Something about a guy who was, shall we say excessively endowed? Lukather has recorded on more than 1500 albums. He did work on Michael Jackson's Thriller, played with Boz Scaggs, is one of the original founding members of Toto. Remember the guitar solo on Lionel Richie's "Running With The Night?" That was Lukather. He has won five Grammys, but he can't come back to UC Berkely because he offended some butthurt d**e during a FREE seminar he normally charges quite a bit of money for.


I agree he got screwed for telling one off color joke and hopefully UCB will eventually lift the ban. I have seen Lukather several times live both with Toto and Ringo'sALL Starr Band. He is indeed one of my favorite guitarists that are still around from the 70s/80s.

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Mar 24, 2023 09:28:11   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
pegw wrote:
No matter what you think, discussions should be done in a civil way. Constant mud slinging
only shows how much the slingers belong to the lower classes. I am reminded 9f the moniker poor white trash.


Coming from someone who works to disprove/disqualify anything the right says, your voice has little merit!

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Mar 24, 2023 09:52:48   #
Rose42
 
pegw wrote:
No matter what you think, discussions should be done in a civil way. Constant mud slinging
only shows how much the slingers belong to the lower classes. I am reminded 9f the moniker poor white trash.


Oh my. You probably don’t see the irony of your post.

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Mar 24, 2023 09:56:12   #
Rose42
 
pegw wrote:
Did anyone notice how Free Speach has become a thing since Faux News was outed for saying the e******n was s****n when they knew it wasn't true?


Its Fox - don’t be childish. And its always been ‘a thing’.

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Mar 24, 2023 11:29:48   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Rose42 wrote:
Its Fox - don’t be childish. And its always been ‘a thing’.


Can you show me that in writing. All I've seen is an email between to people at Fox who "questioned and/or were not convinced. Now, maybe there is direct evidence, I haven't seen it. So please provide proof, not some l*****t talking point because, quiet frankly, after the Steele dossier I need more the Dems lips flapping in the wind! Waiting, it shouldn't take you long since you know that to be true, surely you have evidence.

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Mar 24, 2023 13:34:29   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
pegw wrote:
No matter what you think, discussions should be done in a civil way. Constant mud slinging
only shows how much the slingers belong to the lower classes. I am reminded 9f the moniker poor white trash.


One would think that a “high class” broad like yourself would know how to spell! LOL! You have no clue how often you misspell/misuse words, do you? 🤭

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