If somebody leaves gun unattended and somebody gets shot (accidentally or otherwise) , this person should be charged. Dr Phil show is about 9 year old who shot his 8 year old brother...

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Dr Phil show is about 9 year old who shot his 8 year old brother in the chest with his father's gun which was left at bedside table unattended... The boy survived, but what should happen to the parents??.. They're on 1 year probation... No jail..I believe they should if spend at least 3 months in jail.. What do you think?

Kevyn

proud republican wrote:

Dr Phil show is about 9 year old who shot his 8 year old brother in the chest with his father's gun which was left at bedside table unattended... The boy survived, but what should happen to the parents??.. They're on 1 year probation... No jail..I believe they should if spend at least 3 months in jail.. What do you think?

Millions of Americans leave guns lying around the house because they are afraid of the boogie man and cower at the thought of not having a piece available to blast their imagined attacker. These guns far more often than being used for defense are misused, stolen, accidentally discharged or fall into the hands of children. Statistics clearly show that people in households with firearms are more at risk of being k**led or injured by gunshots than households without firearms. This is indisputable. So if the same kid grabbed moms car keys and accidentally ran over his brother or cut off his hand with Dads table saw should mom or dad go to jail? I guess the answer is a matter of the degree of neglect and negligence. One thing for sure, neither should ever be allowed to keep firearms again.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Kevyn wrote:

Millions of Americans leave guns lying around the ... (show quote)

Imagined attacker??.. Really?? What if it's NOT imagined attacker??.. 🙄🙄🙄

steve66613

Kevyn wrote:

Millions of Americans leave guns lying around the ... (show quote)

We’ve talked about this before: “households with firearms are more at risk”…..

As I recall, the statistics were generated in urban areas in California. What “households” are most likely to have guns? Well, people who engage in gang related activities, of course! Is gun violence likely to result while dealing drugs, human trafficking, kidnapping, extortion, “turf” wars, etc.? Of course and the statistics are touted as reflecting average, law abiding households.

I’m calling BS (again) on your misleading post.

PeterS

proud republican wrote:

Dr Phil show is about 9 year old who shot his 8 year old brother in the chest with his father's gun which was left at bedside table unattended... The boy survived, but what should happen to the parents??.. They're on 1 year probation... No jail..I believe they should if spend at least 3 months in jail.. What do you think?

Put the parents into jail for life, the children separated, and put into the foster care system. People should be punished irrespective of the consequences!

PeterS

steve66613 wrote:

We’ve talked about this before: “households with ... (show quote)

Do you mean conservatives don't have guns...only the druggies in California? Man, how have we been misled all this time...

American Vet

Kevyn wrote:

Millions of Americans leave guns lying around the house because they are afraid of the boogie man and cower at the thought of not having a piece available to blast their imagined attacker. These guns far more often than being used for defense are misused, stolen, accidentally discharged or fall into the hands of children.

Wrong according to the US government.

But being wrong doesn’t slow down your scumbag reasons rants.

American Vet

PeterS wrote:

Do you mean conservatives don't have guns...only the druggies in California? Man, how have we been misled all this time...

Typical intellectual dishonesty - but it comes pretty easily to you.

PeterS

proud republican wrote:

Imagined attacker??.. Really?? What if it's NOT imagined attacker??.. 🙄🙄🙄

If it's not imagined wouldn't you want your gun where you could get to it ASAP? If that's the case why do you want to put the parents in jail? After all, children shooting each other would be just the consequence of living in our violent society!

American Vet

PeterS wrote:

If it's not imagined wouldn't you want your gun where you could get to it ASAP? If that's the case why do you want to put the parents in jail? After all, children shooting each other would be just the consequence of living in our violent society!

Well obviously one can keep the gun in a safe.

That way the criminal can rape and murder your children at his leisure.

PeterS

American Vet wrote:

Wrong according to the US government.

But being wrong doesn’t slow down your scumbag reasons rants.

"According to the US government" isn't a proof...you have to show how the government proved wh**ever you are trying to argue. You didn't do that, instead, you just used "according to the US government" as a fallacy and nothing more...

American Vet

PeterS wrote:

"According to the US government" isn't a proof...you have to show how the government proved wh**ever you are trying to argue. You didn't do that, instead, you just used "according to the US government" as a fallacy and nothing more...

Gladly

The stats sourced from a CDC-commissioned study finding that instances of defensive gun use occur between 60,000 and 2.5 million times per year.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cdc-removed-stats-defensive-gun-use-pressure-gun-control-activists-report

In particular, a 2013 study ordered by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and conducted by The National Academies’ Institute of Medicine and National Research Council reported that, “Defensive use of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence”: Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulhsieh/2018/04/30/that-time-the-cdc-asked-about-defensive-gun-uses/?sh=deeb346299aa

Feel free to wade thru the entire study
https://nap.nationalacademies.org/read/18319/chapter/3

This little nugget was also in the information
have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies

National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine. 2013. Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence. Washington, DC: The National Academies Press. https://doi.org/10.17226/18319.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

PeterS wrote:

Put the parents into jail for life, the children separated, and put into the foster care system. People should be punished irrespective of the consequences!

K**l the parents, Pete, k**l the kids too, I mean fkit, anybody leaves a gun lying around outa be shot.
Anybody who picks up a gun and shoots somebody outa be shot too.
If the gun is a semi-auto sentence them all to 30 days in the electric chair.

Nobody but cops and robbers should have guns, right?

steve66613

PeterS wrote:

Do you mean conservatives don't have guns...only the druggies in California? Man, how have we been misled all this time...

Never said “conservatives don’t have guns”. Just called BS on The Li’l Mulletfuhrer’s reference, to a BS set of statistics.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

proud republican wrote:

Imagined attacker??.. Really?? What if it's NOT imagined attacker??.. 🙄🙄🙄

Don’t listen to the lying troll. His supposed facts were lies.