son of witless

Remember when the Left Wing Loony Tunes in America pushed high speed rail and mass t***sit ? One of the many Liberal left wing magic bullets like solar panels, windmills, and electric cars that would save the world, stop g****l w*****g, cure halitosis, and just make everything peachy ? High speed rail in California is a disaster, but the loony tunes will have you believe America just did not invest enough in bullet trains, etc.

Well kiddies, there is one country that did invest big in high speed rail service, China. How did that work out for them ?

https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/china-s-once-profitable-railways-records-900bn-debt-over-push-for-growth-122070800124_1.html#:~:text=What%20was%20once%20China%27s%20profitable%20high-speed%20railways%20is,of%20debt%20nearing%20a%20whopping%20USD%20900%20billion.

okie don

Can you say EV's?

okie don

Can you say EV's?
With the cost of energy going up how much will it cost to charge one up and hope you don't burn your house down?
🤔🤔🤔

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Where's Ben Franklin when you need him?

pegw

Most large cities in the US are dependent on their subway systems in order to move. In Boston, more than half of the people in the state use it to commute. These aren't left wing loonies, just people who want to get to work. But who cares of China's rail system is a wreak?

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Duh? Conversation went right over your pointy little head. No shock there.

son of witless

Because it shows that massive government funded high speed rail, which everyone on your side believes in, does not work. Many massive left wing dreams do not work. Can't we learn from other nations mistakes ? Likely not, because, we have a moron for a President.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Hey. If your goal is to k**l raptors such as the American Eagle windmills work damn good.

son of witless

I hear some of the solar panel and mirror farms actually light birds on fire. They look like burning planes in war movies.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

I’ve seen that also.

son of witless

I bet the guys who polish the mirrors laugh their asses off.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Your link doesn't work..
But the system is awesome...
Very affordable and convenient...
I can get to Beijing in twelve hours (there's a wait in Harbin or it would be eight hours) for about $50...
What I love about it is they run it at cost... So prices drop las soon as they make back what was spent on it...

Wildlandfirefighter

I’m sorry but that statement shows your true ignorance. Do a little work and you will find that where high speed rail is in use today around the world it is a fantastic way to travel.

Here are some facts for you to chew on:

The first high-speed rail system began operations in Japan in 1964, and is known as the Shinkansen, or “bullet train.” Today, Japan has a network of nine high speed rail lines serving 22 of its major cities, stretching across its three main islands, with three more lines in development. It is the busiest high-speed rail service in the world, carrying more than 420,000 passengers on a typical weekday. Its trains travel up to 320 km/h (200 mph), and the railway boasts that, in over 50 years of operation, there have been no passenger fatalities or injuries due to accidents.

The next country to make high-speed rail available to the public was France in 1981, with service at 200 km/h (124 mph) between Paris and Lyon. Today, the French high-speed rail network comprises over 2,800 km of Lignes à grande vitesse (LGV), which allows speeds of up to 320 km/h or 200 mph, on which its TGVs (Trains à grande vitesse) run. This inter-city high-speed rail service is operated by SNCF, France’s national rail operator. Germany began operation of its Inter-City Express (ICE) high-speed trains through several German cities in 1991. The Eurostar service, connecting Paris to London via the Channel Tunnel, began operation in 1994. Due to France’s early adoption of high-speed rail and its central position between the Iberian Peninsula, the British Isles and Central Europe, most other high-speed rail lines in Europe have been built to the French standards for speeds, voltage and signaling, with the exception of Germany, which built to existing German railway standards.

Over the ensuing years, several European countries have built extensive high-speed rail networks that include several cross-border international links. Tracks are continuously being built and upgraded to international standards, expanding the network. International links between Italy and France, with connections to Switzerland, Austria and Slovenia, are underway. These links all incorporate extensive new tunneling under the Alps. European Union funding was approved in 2015 for the Turin–Lyon high-speed railway (at a cost of €25 billion), which will connect the French and Italian networks, and provide a link with Slovenia.

There are places in this country that could benefit greatly by high speed rail, and states including California and Texas are currently working on future projects in this area.

https://www.eesi.org/papers/view/fact-sheet-high-speed-rail-development-worldwide

https://worldwiderails.com/which-countries-have-high-speed-rail/

son of witless

I was going to post a video giving an overview of the Chinese economy and see what you thought of it. It was quite scathing. I decided it was far too long to post. Two main points of concern were the real estate market in China and the high speed rail system. They talked about the empty apartment buildings that are unfinished, and many built in out of the way places where there weren't jobs, but I want to focus on the rail system.


The train system may be technically impressive, but the debt incurred to build it is unsustainable. According to the video, the regional and national governments saw the expansion of the rail system as a great infrastructure program and incurred immense debt to build it. In places it was not needed and the average Chinese citizen can not afford to pay the fairs so the trains run largely empty. The fairs collected are not enough to service the debt let alone allow the railroads to earn a profit.

Or perhaps the video was wrong. I figure you live there and would know.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

https://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=17764#:~:text=Dedicated%20Infrastructure%20Is%20Wasted&text=But%20high%2Dspeed%20rail%20lines%20can%20only%20move%20people%2C%20making,as%20frequent%20heavy%20freight%20trains.