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Wonttakeitanymore

Yes it was why do you think we left England?

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Separation of church and state is not in the Constitution.

manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

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Bill Gindlesperger
Wed, November 30, 2022 at 5:05 AM·5 min read
In this article:

Thomas Jefferson
Thomas Jefferson
President of the United States from 1801 to 1809
The best way to understand where we are today, and where we might be headed tomorrow, is to look at where we came from yesterday. That is particularly helpful for all parties in the ever-growing argument as to whether America is, was, or will be a Christian nation.

Of course, as we all have experienced, religion, and especially Christianity, has been used as an excuse for putting others in their place, as a call to arms, and as a justification for getting what we want from those less strong and not part of a particular brand of Christianity. Catholics, Protestants and Evangelicals all have ideas on how the world should center on their own beliefs and interpretations.

Christianity in America has served numerous political causes since July 4, 1776. These have included both legalizing persecution by some and aiding runaway s***es by others. We fought N**is, C*******ts and their ilk, because it was the Christian thing to do.

Going back to America’s formative years during colonization, every type of religious group came to America so that each could practice its own religious beliefs without the threats of kings, popes and other strong-arm European and Asian leaders. Then, of course, rivalries among these same groups sprung up across the new land.

When the Constitution was written, it was based on Christian principles, but not the practice of Christianity or any other religion. In fact, the First Amendment to the Constitution states that everyone in the United States has the right to practice his or her own religion, or no religion at all.

Our country's founders were of varying religious backgrounds and felt that the better way to protect religious freedom was to keep the government out of religion. That’s the reason for the First Amendment to the Constitution and its guarantee of separation between church and state.

This separation has served us well. Other countries have had to deal with armed conflicts between various religious factions, but we have avoided much of that in the U.S.

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The First Amendment has two major clauses.

The first is the Establishment Clause that prohibits the government from encouraging, promoting or establishing religion in any way. That's why Christianity is not the official religion of the United States, and why our government may not give financial support to any religious organization, including school voucher programs that favor schools that promote religion.
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The second is the Free Exercise Clause that gives us the right to worship or not as each of us chooses. The government can't penalize us because of our religious beliefs.

Our American freedom of religion has been challenged repeatedly throughout our history. In 1801, a group of Baptists felt compelled to lobby president-elect Thomas Jefferson complaining about having to pay fees to support the Congregationalist majority. These Baptists felt compelled to lobby for religious freedom in spite of the Constitution’s guarantees. They argued to make all religious expression in America a fundamental human right and not a matter of capricious government approval at will.

"This resulted in Jefferson writing that the First Amendment's original intent established a "wall of separation between church and state." This phrase has for 200 years become a major constitutional bulwark"

If you hang your hat on the writings of Jefferson that are not in any way included in our Constitution to buttress your contention that we have in the Constitution provision for separation of church from state, you are simply wrong. This is a convention not a law, and as such, is suspiciously beneficial to those who are against Christianity.

Lily

Wonttakeitanymore

Thank you for the clarification !

okie don

I understand that England was highly Episcopalian in their main beliefs and
they did not want this or any other belief crammed down their throats by the Government.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

Anglican .
Founders were Deists. As only a belief there is a god.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

Is there anything in there about the Christo - F*****m we’re facing today with the American Taliban ?
Evangelical W***e S*********ts ?
The Anti Jew terrorists ?

This country was not founded as a Christian Country .
Period.
While you’re free to practice wh**ever your little heart desires, don’t keep smearing it around on everything , a lot of people just don’t like that.

manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

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This is sheer garbage, h**e speech directed at Christians. Your words are to be rejected by all thinking individuals.

Cuda2020

Ok, just to make sure, you do know that the Bill of rights is part of our Constitution, right???
The first clause in the Bill of Rights states that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.” Establishment clause of First Amendment.

Clearly people here are uneducated to why we did leave England, and let me say, they were happy we left.

My question is why do Christians try to force their religion onto to others by trying to make an official religion, don't you guys ever get tired of walking backwards, just wondering?

Cuda2020

If you're going to quote someone, please include the quotation marks on where their quote begins and ends. This being in reference to Thomas Jefferson. Bill Gindlesperger has done him an injustice by not doing so in his piece. As a free country what we are truly founded by our founding fathers is our freedom of choice.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

Are you oblivious to the recent Christo F*****m taking place. ?
It is more like Christian H**e speech directed at everyone not Christo F*****t .

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Bad Bob Loc: Virginia