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Nov 16, 2014 09:10:22   #
Caboose Loc: South Carolina
 
Brian Devon wrote:
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Boy.....and I thought the weed in this part of the country was strong. What does your family think of your extreme pot smoking? Are they worried about you???

Just because it is becoming legal all over, doesn't mean you should be toking this heavily.


Any time someone speaks about your messiah, then you show
up to kiss his azz.

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Nov 16, 2014 10:00:29   #
Brian Devon
 
oldroy wrote:
The best part of this stuff is that few of those kind seem to understand what impeachment is and how it gets done. They seem to be sure that impeachment has to involve the Senate and it doesn't as long as they allow our Constitution to remain in effect.





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Roy, if your parents were still alive, I would say this to them,
"Go hire a lawyer to sue the school district. Roy was obviously c***ted out of an education. Your property taxes were obtained under false pretenses. Roy, now has to spend the rest of his days, wearing the mark of the buffoon, who never learned history and civics."

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Nov 16, 2014 10:15:36   #
Blacksheep
 
muslim-maxwell wrote:
I was thinking, why cant the new congress just bypass impeachment all together. We may not have enough of a majority to impeach, but we do have enough to conduct hearings that the Democrats cant side rail. Investigate his birth certificate. Hawaii will have to produce THE ORIGINAL. But we all know there is no original or it would have surfaced long ago. Hawaii officials would be subpoenaed and have to testify that there is no original, he was never born in Hawaii. From that point on, Obama is guilty of felony fraud. I am sure all hell would break loose but if he was never eligible to be President, he should have no p**********l powers. A lot would depend on who law enforcement agencies would side with I guess. You know there would be a whole lot of persons of color r**ting for sure. But the price of freedom isn't cheap.
I was thinking, why cant the new congress just byp... (show quote)


Looking over all that's been posted on this subject in Wikipedia, I see that the Constitution requires our president to have been born of American "parents", plural, not singular, and born within the jurisdiction of the United States. If he was born in Kenya, that's outside the jurisdiction of the United States, which explains why we've never been allowed to see anything except a doctored document that's been proven to be a forgery. Even with that proof, we don't see anyone in our Congress taking steps to expose Obama.

However, let's not forget "parents", rather than "parent". Only one of his parents was a U.S. citizen. Unfortunately, to impeach him on the grounds of having only one American parent would have to go to the Supreme Court to decide whether our Constitution really meant two, or if just one still confers citizenship on the child.

Beyond all that, there seems no possibility of his ever being impeached anyway. Consider how a man with such a terrible background was allowed to become President with hardly a murmur of dissent from the Republicans, who could have easily exposed him for the C*******t enemy that he is. Most of those people are still in Congress. What's the chance that they'd even entertain a v**e to impeach, let alone actually conduct such a v**e?

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Nov 16, 2014 10:24:02   #
Pulfnick Loc: Knoxville, TN
 
muslim-maxwell wrote:
I was thinking, why cant the new congress just bypass impeachment all together. We may not have enough of a majority to impeach, but we do have enough to conduct hearings that the Democrats cant side rail. Investigate his birth certificate. Hawaii will have to produce THE ORIGINAL. But we all know there is no original or it would have surfaced long ago. Hawaii officials would be subpoenaed and have to testify that there is no original, he was never born in Hawaii. From that point on, Obama is guilty of felony fraud. I am sure all hell would break loose but if he was never eligible to be President, he should have no p**********l powers. A lot would depend on who law enforcement agencies would side with I guess. You know there would be a whole lot of persons of color r**ting for sure. But the price of freedom isn't cheap.
I was thinking, why cant the new congress just byp... (show quote)


I personally suspect Obama was NOT born in the US. Nothing about his birth certificate makes any sense whatsoever. But his mother was a US citizen. That made Obama a US citizen at birth, regardless of where he was born. The Constitution does NOT define "natural born", so I don't see that where Obama was born is relevant. He was born a US citizen. Period.

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Nov 16, 2014 10:34:04   #
Blacksheep
 
Pulfnick wrote:
I personally suspect Obama was NOT born in the US. Nothing about his birth certificate makes any sense whatsoever. But his mother was a US citizen. That made Obama a US citizen at birth, regardless of where he was born. The Constitution does NOT define "natural born", so I don't see that where Obama was born is relevant. He was born a US citizen. Period.


No it doesn't. Even if both his parents were U.S. citizens instead of just one, - which may in itself be enough to negate his claim to citizenship - our Constitution requires that he be born on American soil OR "under United States jurisdiction". Kenya is not under U.S. jurisdiction.
Period.

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Nov 16, 2014 11:03:28   #
Pulfnick Loc: Knoxville, TN
 
B****sheep wrote:
No it doesn't. Even if both his parents were U.S. citizens instead of just one, - which may in itself be enough to negate his claim to citizenship - our Constitution requires that he be born on American soil OR "under United States jurisdiction". Kenya is not under U.S. jurisdiction.
Period.


OK, please tell me where the Constitution says that. I'd like to read it, as I've never noticed it before.

Article II, Section 1 says: "No person except a natural born Citizen..."

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Nov 16, 2014 11:40:53   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
oldroy wrote:
The best part of this stuff is that few of those kind seem to understand what impeachment is and how it gets done. They seem to be sure that impeachment has to involve the Senate and it doesn't as long as they allow our Constitution to remain in effect.


oldroy-are you sure about that ? I have always been under the impression that the impeachment charges were filed by the House of Representatives and the trial was held by the Senate and, for a president, presided over by the Chief Justics of SCOTUS. You need a 2/3 majority to convict in the Senate and that is why impeachment at this time, unless there is an unquestionable mandate from the American people, is futile. It would be costly and time consuming and not worth the effort. Good Luck America !!!

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Nov 16, 2014 11:48:12   #
Blacksheep
 
Pulfnick wrote:
OK, please tell me where the Constitution says that. I'd like to read it, as I've never noticed it before.

Article II, Section 1 says: "No person except a natural born Citizen..."


I did a google search for this, lazy person. But you have to at least read it. I can't do that for you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause

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Nov 16, 2014 14:02:08   #
Pulfnick Loc: Knoxville, TN
 
B****sheep wrote:
I did a google search for this, lazy person. But you have to at least read it. I can't do that for you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause


May I suggest you check the Constitution. Wikipedia is NOT the Constitution, nor does the site you reference quote your ideas in the Constitution.

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Nov 16, 2014 14:49:58   #
Blacksheep
 
Pulfnick wrote:
May I suggest you check the Constitution. Wikipedia is NOT the Constitution, nor does the site you reference quote your ideas in the Constitution.


GO READ IT. It cites that part of the Constitution that applies here. If you aren't capable of even that, then shut the hell up. My god. People who can't even Google up the part about Natural Born Citizen. Pathetic.

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Nov 16, 2014 14:54:39   #
Grugore
 
Caboose wrote:
Any time someone speaks about your messiah, then you show
up to kiss his azz.


How does he manage to type while his lips are glued to Obummers bum?

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Nov 16, 2014 14:59:10   #
Grugore
 
Ricko wrote:
oldroy-are you sure about that ? I have always been under the impression that the impeachment charges were filed by the House of Representatives and the trial was held by the Senate and, for a president, presided over by the Chief Justics of SCOTUS. You need a 2/3 majority to convict in the Senate and that is why impeachment at this time, unless there is an unquestionable mandate from the American people, is futile. It would be costly and time consuming and not worth the effort. Good Luck America !!!
oldroy-are you sure about that ? I have always be... (show quote)


A Patriot, with a sniper rifle, could save us a lot of time and money. Just saying. It wouldn't be the first time history was changed by a single person.

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Nov 16, 2014 15:01:46   #
Brian Devon
 
Grugore wrote:
A Patriot, with a sniper rifle, could save us a lot of time and money. Just saying. It wouldn't be the first time history was changed by a single person.




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Have you shared your "patriotic" views with the United States Secret Service and the Department of Justice? They might consider you a "person of interest"......just saying...

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Nov 16, 2014 15:16:02   #
Grugore
 
Brian Devon wrote:
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Have you shared your "patriotic" views with the United States Secret Service and the Department of Justice? They might consider you a "person of interest"......just saying...


I'm already a person of interest, so it wouldn't bother me at all.

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Nov 17, 2014 00:15:09   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Brian Devon wrote:
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Roy, if your parents were still alive, I would say this to them,
"Go hire a lawyer to sue the school district. Roy was obviously c***ted out of an education. Your property taxes were obtained under false pretenses. Roy, now has to spend the rest of his days, wearing the mark of the buffoon, who never learned history and civics."


Please explain the impeachment process as the Constitution speaks of it. I know what the process is but it doesn't seem to me that you do. The Senate's part in the process is to act as the judge and jury in determining whether the impeached person has to leave office. Yep. The House accuses and the Senate tries and hat is it. A very large number of people around this nation who took their government classes from me know this to be the way it is done. Can you point out what I should be suing for.

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