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Nov 15, 2014 18:23:54   #
muslim-maxwell Loc: honolulu, hawaii, usa
 
I was thinking, why cant the new congress just bypass impeachment all together. We may not have enough of a majority to impeach, but we do have enough to conduct hearings that the Democrats cant side rail. Investigate his birth certificate. Hawaii will have to produce THE ORIGINAL. But we all know there is no original or it would have surfaced long ago. Hawaii officials would be subpoenaed and have to testify that there is no original, he was never born in Hawaii. From that point on, Obama is guilty of felony fraud. I am sure all hell would break loose but if he was never eligible to be President, he should have no presidential powers. A lot would depend on who law enforcement agencies would side with I guess. You know there would be a whole lot of persons of color rioting for sure. But the price of freedom isn't cheap.

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Nov 15, 2014 18:32:28   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
muslim-maxwell wrote:
I was thinking, why cant the new congress just bypass impeachment all together. We may not have enough of a majority to impeach, but we do have enough to conduct hearings that the Democrats cant side rail. Investigate his birth certificate. Hawaii will have to produce THE ORIGINAL. But we all know there is no original or it would have surfaced long ago. Hawaii officials would be subpoenaed and have to testify that there is no original, he was never born in Hawaii. From that point on, Obama is guilty of felony fraud. I am sure all hell would break loose but if he was never eligible to be President, he should have no presidential powers. A lot would depend on who law enforcement agencies would side with I guess. You know there would be a whole lot of persons of color rioting for sure. But the price of freedom isn't cheap.
I was thinking, why cant the new congress just byp... (show quote)


That's a good idea! The Congress, both the old and new, have decided that their primary function is to hold endless hearings about stuff. They don't intend to ever DO anything with the "information" gleaned from these hearings, but it sure does make for good headlines, get's campaign stuff on the record and allow them to "try out" rhetoric on camera.

Even if Obama resigned, right this minute, nothing at all would change in DC. There'd still be a Democrat in the White House, a Congress full of idiots and the beginning of a whole new series of useless, irritating and intrusive campaign commercials. Every elected official will be consumed with raising money and positioning for the upcoming 2016 elections. So, another hearing topic would be appreciated.

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Nov 15, 2014 19:04:22   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
muslim-maxwell wrote:
I was thinking, why cant the new congress just bypass impeachment all together. We may not have enough of a majority to impeach, but we do have enough to conduct hearings that the Democrats cant side rail. Investigate his birth certificate. Hawaii will have to produce THE ORIGINAL. But we all know there is no original or it would have surfaced long ago. Hawaii officials would be subpoenaed and have to testify that there is no original, he was never born in Hawaii. From that point on, Obama is guilty of felony fraud. I am sure all hell would break loose but if he was never eligible to be President, he should have no presidential powers. A lot would depend on who law enforcement agencies would side with I guess. You know there would be a whole lot of persons of color rioting for sure. But the price of freedom isn't cheap.
I was thinking, why cant the new congress just byp... (show quote)


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Nov 15, 2014 20:32:57   #
Brian Devon
 
muslim-maxwell wrote:
I was thinking, why cant the new congress just bypass impeachment all together. We may not have enough of a majority to impeach, but we do have enough to conduct hearings that the Democrats cant side rail. Investigate his birth certificate. Hawaii will have to produce THE ORIGINAL. But we all know there is no original or it would have surfaced long ago. Hawaii officials would be subpoenaed and have to testify that there is no original, he was never born in Hawaii. From that point on, Obama is guilty of felony fraud. I am sure all hell would break loose but if he was never eligible to be President, he should have no presidential powers. A lot would depend on who law enforcement agencies would side with I guess. You know there would be a whole lot of persons of color rioting for sure. But the price of freedom isn't cheap.
I was thinking, why cant the new congress just byp... (show quote)








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Boy.....and I thought the weed in this part of the country was strong. What does your family think of your extreme pot smoking? Are they worried about you???

Just because it is becoming legal all over, doesn't mean you should be toking this heavily.

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Nov 15, 2014 21:37:13   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
Yah. That's right. We should just let the biggest fraud in history succeed unimpeded. Good idea !


lpnmajor wrote:
That's a good idea! The Congress, both the old and new, have decided that their primary function is to hold endless hearings about stuff. They don't intend to ever DO anything with the "information" gleaned from these hearings, but it sure does make for good headlines, get's campaign stuff on the record and allow them to "try out" rhetoric on camera.

Even if Obama resigned, right this minute, nothing at all would change in DC. There'd still be a Democrat in the White House, a Congress full of idiots and the beginning of a whole new series of useless, irritating and intrusive campaign commercials. Every elected official will be consumed with raising money and positioning for the upcoming 2016 elections. So, another hearing topic would be appreciated.
That's a good idea! The Congress, both the old and... (show quote)

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Nov 15, 2014 21:52:54   #
Kevyn
 
muslim-maxwell wrote:
I was thinking, why cant the new congress just bypass impeachment all together. We may not have enough of a majority to impeach, but we do have enough to conduct hearings that the Democrats cant side rail. Investigate his birth certificate. Hawaii will have to produce THE ORIGINAL. But we all know there is no original or it would have surfaced long ago. Hawaii officials would be subpoenaed and have to testify that there is no original, he was never born in Hawaii. From that point on, Obama is guilty of felony fraud. I am sure all hell would break loose but if he was never eligible to be President, he should have no presidential powers. A lot would depend on who law enforcement agencies would side with I guess. You know there would be a whole lot of persons of color rioting for sure. But the price of freedom isn't cheap.
I was thinking, why cant the new congress just byp... (show quote)
I am a supporter of the President and think the very best thing to happen is for the congress to push for impeachment. Have at it please, nothing could be better.

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Nov 15, 2014 21:59:26   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Kevyn wrote:
I am a supporter of the President and think the very best thing to happen is for the congress to push for impeachment. Have at it please, nothing could be better.


It would appear almost all the faggots are Ovomit supporters.

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Nov 15, 2014 22:05:41   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
It would appear almost all the faggots are Ovomit supporters.


The best part of this stuff is that few of those kind seem to understand what impeachment is and how it gets done. They seem to be sure that impeachment has to involve the Senate and it doesn't as long as they allow our Constitution to remain in effect.

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Nov 15, 2014 22:14:47   #
Grugore
 
muslim-maxwell wrote:
I was thinking, why cant the new congress just bypass impeachment all together. We may not have enough of a majority to impeach, but we do have enough to conduct hearings that the Democrats cant side rail. Investigate his birth certificate. Hawaii will have to produce THE ORIGINAL. But we all know there is no original or it would have surfaced long ago. Hawaii officials would be subpoenaed and have to testify that there is no original, he was never born in Hawaii. From that point on, Obama is guilty of felony fraud. I am sure all hell would break loose but if he was never eligible to be President, he should have no presidential powers. A lot would depend on who law enforcement agencies would side with I guess. You know there would be a whole lot of persons of color rioting for sure. But the price of freedom isn't cheap.
I was thinking, why cant the new congress just byp... (show quote)


Liberals would just point out that he wasn't the first President who was not a natural born citizen.

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Nov 15, 2014 22:30:57   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Grugore wrote:
Liberals would just point out that he wasn't the first President who was not a natural born citizen.


Who would they suggest? I suppose the first ones who were born here but not till they managed to write that Constitution Obama is trying so hard to kill.

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Nov 15, 2014 22:39:19   #
Grugore
 
oldroy wrote:
Who would they suggest? I suppose the first ones who were born here but not till they managed to write that Constitution Obama is trying so hard to kill.


(1) Though the Declaration of Independence was dated July 4, 1776, it took 13 years to win and confirm this independence on the battle fields. A recognizable new nation called the United States of America, with its own constitution and government was established only in 1783 through the treatry of Paris signed by King George the Third and the representatives of the United States of America.

Prior to this date, anyone born in North America, presently known as USA, was actually born in a British Colony, controlled by England and was a citizen of England and pledged allegiance to the British Crown. Thus nine of the forty-three Presidents, who had served as president, were foreign born. These nine foreign born US presidents are listed hereunder:

1. George Washington (1789-1797) was born in 1732, in the British Colony of Virginia, and was a British subject, until the formation of the Government of the United States of America in 1789, when he became its first president.
2. John Adams (1797-1801) was born in the Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1735.
3. Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809) was born in 1743 in the colony of Virginia.
4. James Madison (1809-1817) was born in 1751 in the colony of Virginia.
5. James Monroe (1817-1825) was born in the colony of Virginia, in 1758.
6. John Quincy Adams (1825-1829) was born in 1767 in the colony of Massachusetts.
7. Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) was born in 1767 in the colony of the Carolinas.
8. Martin Van Buren (1837-1841) was born in 1782 in the colony of New York.
9. William Henry Harrison (1841) was born in 1773 in the colony of of Virginia. He died in office from pneumonia.

The tenth US president, John Tyler (1841-1845) was the First US born president. He was born in March 29, 1790, in the State of Virginia in USA.

Of the several search engines we tried only Bing gave the correct answer by stating some of the US presidents were born under the British crown controlled colonies in North America and listed the US presidents in order with their birth days. Google search referred us to Wickipedia, which wrongly identified the 8th .US president Van Buren as the First US born president. President Van Buren was born in December 5th. 1782 in the British colony of New York. The treaty of Paris establishing USA as a New Country was not signed until nine months later in September 3, 1783.
Thus, so far we have had nine foreign born US Presidents who have served this country with great honor and distinction. The US News Media, as usual, has hidden this historic fact and have blatantly distorted the constitutional requirement needed for an American, Natural born or Naturalized to hold the office of the President of the United States.

(1) http://www.usanewsandinformationservice.com/uspresidentsfb.html

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Nov 15, 2014 23:07:05   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Grugore wrote:
(1) Though the Declaration of Independence was dated July 4, 1776, it took 13 years to win and confirm this independence on the battle fields. A recognizable new nation called the United States of America, with its own constitution and government was established only in 1783 through the treatry of Paris signed by King George the Third and the representatives of the United States of America.

Prior to this date, anyone born in North America, presently known as USA, was actually born in a British Colony, controlled by England and was a citizen of England and pledged allegiance to the British Crown. Thus nine of the forty-three Presidents, who had served as president, were foreign born. These nine foreign born US presidents are listed hereunder:

1. George Washington (1789-1797) was born in 1732, in the British Colony of Virginia, and was a British subject, until the formation of the Government of the United States of America in 1789, when he became its first president.
2. John Adams (1797-1801) was born in the Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1735.
3. Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809) was born in 1743 in the colony of Virginia.
4. James Madison (1809-1817) was born in 1751 in the colony of Virginia.
5. James Monroe (1817-1825) was born in the colony of Virginia, in 1758.
6. John Quincy Adams (1825-1829) was born in 1767 in the colony of Massachusetts.
7. Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) was born in 1767 in the colony of the Carolinas.
8. Martin Van Buren (1837-1841) was born in 1782 in the colony of New York.
9. William Henry Harrison (1841) was born in 1773 in the colony of of Virginia. He died in office from pneumonia.

The tenth US president, John Tyler (1841-1845) was the First US born president. He was born in March 29, 1790, in the State of Virginia in USA.

Of the several search engines we tried only Bing gave the correct answer by stating some of the US presidents were born under the British crown controlled colonies in North America and listed the US presidents in order with their birth days. Google search referred us to Wickipedia, which wrongly identified the 8th .US president Van Buren as the First US born president. President Van Buren was born in December 5th. 1782 in the British colony of New York. The treaty of Paris establishing USA as a New Country was not signed until nine months later in September 3, 1783.
Thus, so far we have had nine foreign born US Presidents who have served this country with great honor and distinction. The US News Media, as usual, has hidden this historic fact and have blatantly distorted the constitutional requirement needed for an American, Natural born or Naturalized to hold the office of the President of the United States.

(1) http://www.usanewsandinformationservice.com/uspresidentsfb.html
(1) Though the Declaration of Independence was dat... (show quote)


My copy of the Constitution says that anyone who was a citizen at the time of the adoption of the Constitution would be eligible for the Presidency. That would be Article II, Section 1, Clause 5.

Right there in the Constitution is provision for the earlier Presidents. Read up on that part.

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Nov 16, 2014 07:42:34   #
muslim-maxwell Loc: honolulu, hawaii, usa
 
Brian Devon wrote:
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Boy.....and I thought the weed in this part of the country was strong. What does your family think of your extreme pot smoking? Are they worried about you???

Just because it is becoming legal all over, doesn't mean you should be toking this heavily.


So you believe the photo shopped farce on the white house website is actually a real scan or photo of our Fraud In chiefs BC I assume.

If you do then, tell me why?

1. No hard copy has ever been presented to anyone anywhere for inspection.
2. There is absolutely no one alive who can attest that they have seen touched or anything else the hard copy original. (this would the be the official original filed away in the Hawaii's Department of health in Honolulu)
3. When you get a certified BC from our board of health it is certified genuine with a state seal embossed on the back of the birth certificate that makes a clear impression to the front of the BC. See if you can find one on the Obama photo shop forgery. http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf
And if it was actually scanned or photographed for the web page why didn't they scan or Photograph the back side where the seal and certification is. (Answer is: There is a date and time on the back that can be checked and verified with the Hawaii Board of Health and they don't want that)
4. Here is a scan of my Hawaii BC. The impression of the seal is also clear on the front of the BC but, sorry too much personal info for me to show the front. But as you can see it is clearly visible in my scan but why not in the Obama forgery?
5. If you download the free version of adobe creator, and open up a downloaded version of Obamas BC with it, you will see it has numerous layers, and as you swithch through the layers different parts of the BC disappear. If it were a genuine scan and not a photo shopped forgery, it would still show different layers, but the entire BC would be exclusively on only one layer. In other words, if you switched to a diffrent layer, the entire image would disappear instead of portions of it.
6. I scanned my own BC and analyzed it with Adobe Creator and it did just that, when I switched layers, the entire BC would disappear as a whole and not different parts of it.
7. With all of the claims that the BC is a fraud why hasn't a real certified copy ever surfaced, just to prove birthers wrong. Answer is, because birthers are not wrong.



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Nov 16, 2014 09:01:51   #
Caboose Loc: South Carolina
 
muslim-maxwell wrote:
I was thinking, why cant the new congress just bypass impeachment all together. We may not have enough of a majority to impeach, but we do have enough to conduct hearings that the Democrats cant side rail. Investigate his birth certificate. Hawaii will have to produce THE ORIGINAL. But we all know there is no original or it would have surfaced long ago. Hawaii officials would be subpoenaed and have to testify that there is no original, he was never born in Hawaii. From that point on, Obama is guilty of felony fraud. I am sure all hell would break loose but if he was never eligible to be President, he should have no presidential powers. A lot would depend on who law enforcement agencies would side with I guess. You know there would be a whole lot of persons of color rioting for sure. But the price of freedom isn't cheap.
I was thinking, why cant the new congress just byp... (show quote)


This would be the best way to dethrown obama but theres evidently some resistance to this method. I think its boehner.
This method would undo all obama has done.

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Nov 16, 2014 09:06:47   #
Caboose Loc: South Carolina
 
muslim-maxwell wrote:
So you believe the photo shopped farce on the white house website is actually a real scan or photo of our Fraud In chiefs BC I assume.

If you do then, tell me why?

1. No hard copy has ever been presented to anyone anywhere for inspection.
2. There is absolutely no one alive who can attest that they have seen touched or anything else the hard copy original. (this would the be the official original filed away in the Hawaii's Department of health in Honolulu)
3. When you get a certified BC from our board of health it is certified genuine with a state seal embossed on the back of the birth certificate that makes a clear impression to the front of the BC. See if you can find one on the Obama photo shop forgery. http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf
And if it was actually scanned or photographed for the web page why didn't they scan or Photograph the back side where the seal and certification is. (Answer is: There is a date and time on the back that can be checked and verified with the Hawaii Board of Health and they don't want that)
4. Here is a scan of my Hawaii BC. The impression of the seal is also clear on the front of the BC but, sorry too much personal info for me to show the front. But as you can see it is clearly visible in my scan but why not in the Obama forgery?
5. If you download the free version of adobe creator, and open up a downloaded version of Obamas BC with it, you will see it has numerous layers, and as you swithch through the layers different parts of the BC disappear. If it were a genuine scan and not a photo shopped forgery, it would still show different layers, but the entire BC would be exclusively on only one layer. In other words, if you switched to a diffrent layer, the entire image would disappear instead of portions of it.
6. I scanned my own BC and analyzed it with Adobe Creator and it did just that, when I switched layers, the entire BC would disappear as a whole and not different parts of it.
7. With all of the claims that the BC is a fraud why hasn't a real certified copy ever surfaced, just to prove birthers wrong. Answer is, because birthers are not wrong.
So you believe the photo shopped farce on the whit... (show quote)


Its not just his birth certificate thats fraud. He has no SSN either. He uses a dead mans SSN from connecticut. Then theres the fact he cant pass e-verify. Hes not from around here.
Hes spent millions of tax payer dollars hiding his past records.

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