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Nov 25, 2022 16:13:58   #
son of witless
 
whitnebrat wrote:
Why is it wrong to teach about s***ery in our schools? It has existed since 1619 in America (proven fact). It wasn't called that back then, but "indentured servitude" was a definite thing in New England until the Civil War. In the South, of course, s***ery was a way of life until the Emancipation Proclamation of Lincoln in 1863. After the "War of Northern Aggression", s***ery existed for another century in an economic sense until the Civil Rights Act of 1964. What's wrong with teaching this to our kids as factual history?

Economic s***ery exists to this day for minorities. Why can't we admit that and teach it to a younger generation?

S******c R****m (commonly called Critical Race Theory or CRT) is a fact of life. It exists, and even the most diehard conservative knows this, even if they won't admit it. I wonder what they will say when admission quotas are lifted at Harvard and other colleges and their student body will become over 50% Asian-American. What will be the story then? Why are there so few minorities on the Boards of Directors of major corporations (this includes women, by the way.)

The basis for all this is, of course, white male evangelical supremacy in all its glory … whether explicit or implied. The country was founded with that concept in mind, and it has perpetuated in various forms to this day. When that supremacy is challenged by the rise of minority rights or populations, it comes to the fore and becomes dogma for all kinds of suppression to those segments of society that oppose it. Witness v****g suppression in Republican-held states and challenges to minority v****g in national e******ns. This is a classic case of s******c r****m, i.e. maintaining that supremacy at all costs. To say that it is to insure the accuracy of the v**e and prevent fraud is an insult to the intelligence of any patriotic American. The e******n of 2020 was one of the fairest and most accurate e******ns in our history with virtually no fraud being detected despite numerous recounts and audits. The gutting of the V****g Rights Act of 1965 by the Supreme Court open the way for this particular try at suppression to happen.

These attempts at supremacy have failed every time they has emerged in this country. They will fail again, only to repeat a few decades from now. This cycle has only been temporarily broken when minorities and women were given the right to v**e, and v**er suppression is the latest attempt to maintain that superiority that is so endemic in our society.

The only way to keep from repeating the mistakes of the past is to learn from history. Sweeping large parts of our history under the rug because the older generation feels uncomfortable for their part in perpetuating those mistakes is not a reason for burdening the next generation with ignorance of them, thus dooming them to repeating those mistakes.
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whitnebrat,

" Why is it wrong to teach about s***ery in our schools? "

It is not.

" After the "War of Northern Aggression", s***ery existed for another century in an economic sense until the Civil Rights Act of 1964. " That is opinion and not fact.

" What's wrong with teaching this to our kids as factual history? "

Because it is not factual history. It is Woke, anti American C*******m.

" S******c R****m (commonly called Critical Race Theory or CRT) is a fact of life. "

Prove it.

" I wonder what they will say when admission quotas are lifted at Harvard and other colleges and their student body will become over 50% Asian-American. "

Who is they ???? So what if Harvard and other colleges become 50 % plus Asian-American ? Are you an Anti Asian American bigot ? Are you a r****t ?

" The basis for all this is, of course, white male evangelical supremacy in all its glory … whether explicit or implied. The country was founded with that concept in mind, and it has perpetuated in various forms to this day. "

A bigoted viewpoint, in my opinion.

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Nov 25, 2022 18:03:27   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
son of witless wrote:
whitnebrat,

" Why is it wrong to teach about s***ery in our schools? "

It is not.

" After the "War of Northern Aggression", s***ery existed for another century in an economic sense until the Civil Rights Act of 1964. " That is opinion and not fact.

" What's wrong with teaching this to our kids as factual history? "

Because it is not factual history. It is Woke, anti American C*******m.

" S******c R****m (commonly called Critical Race Theory or CRT) is a fact of life. "

Prove it.

" I wonder what they will say when admission quotas are lifted at Harvard and other colleges and their student body will become over 50% Asian-American. "

Who is they ???? So what if Harvard and other colleges become 50 % plus Asian-American ? Are you an Anti Asian American bigot ? Are you a r****t ?

" The basis for all this is, of course, white male evangelical supremacy in all its glory … whether explicit or implied. The country was founded with that concept in mind, and it has perpetuated in various forms to this day. "

A bigoted viewpoint, in my opinion.
whitnebrat, br br " Why is it wrong to teach... (show quote)


Agreed. The European model is primary in America and in most of the world because it is and has been the most successful model in history. Successful in progress and in providing wealth to the poor and in eliminating harmful activities such as s***ery. And in developing and implementing such great concepts as democracy and republics. It is most certainly not perfect, but it has much less bad than most others.
To blame things that are still unfair and discriminatory as being "systematic r****m built historically into America" is no different than blaming the doctor who saved your life because it is taking too long to get over a case of the flu.
Where in the world is s***ery still acceptable, if not outright legal? Mainly in Africa and the Middle East. Where in the world is Marxism and C*******m and Socialism held up as progressive by 'benevolent' authoritarian regimes? Asia and Southeast Asia. What are the ONLY countries that are actively condemning r****m and spending vast fortunes trying to educate and reform discrimination and r****m, and making it illegal and socially unacceptable? Europe and European settled countries, such as America, Canada, and Australia, with a few like Japan who has embraced American ideals. Every single country that has rejected capitalism and embraced socialism has degenerated into some variation of an authoritarian c*******t or tyrannical nation. Every one.

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Nov 25, 2022 19:49:47   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
American Vet wrote:
And where have Republicans "banned" books? Hint: No where


Nowhere except libraries. Where have you been?

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Nov 25, 2022 19:50:56   #
American Vet
 
soontobeindicted mattoid wrote:
Nowhere except libraries. Where have you been?


Nope - not true. Simply an ELWNJ falsehood.

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Nov 25, 2022 20:09:42   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
soontobeindicted mattoid wrote:
Nowhere except libraries. Where have you been?


You can not name a book that is not available on Amazon or a similar site. They are also readily available in public libraries throughout the country. No books have been banned. Granted, some age inappropriate books have been removed from SCHOOL libraries where children were able to access them without supervision. But the parents can check out any such book they want, or buy them, and provide them to their children should they deem that appropriate.
The ONLY way any book can be called "banned" is by changing the definition to include books that are not allowed into the hands of children through the school system. That is not banned. That is acting the part of an adult, and protecting children.
If you do not like it, please feel free to order a couple of dozen of such books and go to play grounds and distribute them to children as you see fit. Hopefully a law enforcement officer will see you, look at the book, and take appropriate action.

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Nov 25, 2022 20:13:17   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Whitnebrat,

FYI, Christians are strongly biased against sin, but not against sinners.

I don't think you will ever meet anyone you consider to be just-like-you, and neither has anyone else, so it is a moot point.

With your "final' post, for wh**ever reason, you've gone completely off the rails. Your response reads as though it was written decades ago, in an era of ignorance that I cannot even imagine, and that probably never existed.

Don't you know that every person who identifies as a conservative is a unique individual that cannot logically be stereotyped in the shallow manner you have just attempted?

You are either very young, very naive, well indoctrinated, completely biased, typing "conclusions" that were written by someone who does possess one or all of the above characteristics... or you're being deliberately provocative.

To choose between two prospective employees does not require knowledge of either their race or g****r.

Investigate their educational background, verify their relevant work experiences, contact their character references, and if pertinent to the position, get a credit report from a Credit Bureau. Their race is immaterial, and their g****r should be immaterial to their suitability for the position, unless you're hiring someone to carry two hundred pound bags of cement for eight hours daily.

IMO, someone in a managerial or supervisory position should not be drinking with their subordinates after hours, it blurs the lines of authority. As for playing golf or tennis, play with or against a cousin, a neighbor, a high school or college friend, a church or civic club acquaintance, but not an employee.

This is ridiculously old fashioned in an age where people spill their entire life story (with accompanying photos) on Facebook, but one's personal life should be kept private, separate and apart from their work environment.

S******c r****m exists in the United States only if the liberal mainstream media and the Marxist oriented Democrat party have, after projecting it onto society for the last two decades, succeeded in brainwashing the nation's youth into accepting it as revealed t***h.

Everything else you've written delves into psychobabble, and is irrelevant.

whitnebrat wrote:
This thread has been interesting in terms of the responses. At least they have, for the most part, been civil and we've avoided the slurs and name-calling for the most part.
I've been requested to provide sourcing for the most basic and obvious facts. I've had my conclusions challenged in many different ways. We've seen instances of bias in regards to race, even if they are wrapped in pseudo-scientific verbiage.

Let me pose a change in the definition of r****m, s******c r****m, and racial bias. It becomes clearer if we call it 'not-like-me-ism.'
An example of this would be if you were a white, male manager presented with two equally qualified candidates for a critical job opening in your company. One is a white male, the other is a black female. Which one would you choose? I'm sure that in the interests of being politically correct here, you'd say that you'd pick the best qualified one. But would you really, once it came down to making that actual decision? Would you prefer someone that you could sit down and have a drink with after work, or play a round of golf with on Saturday afternoon? Or would qualifications alone be the criteria? Here on the forum, you'd probably pound your chest and claim to be non-biased, but when it came to signing the actual person for the job, which would you choose?
This is a classic example of professing one thing publicly, and doing another (even if unconsciously) in real life. It is endemic, insidious and all of us do it. It is in our nature to want to be with people like us. We're tribal, and we can't help it. That tribalism extends not only to family and politics …it's evident in our fanatical support of our favorite sports teams and to our national politics. It's us and it's in our nature at a basic level.
It exists in both what we're taught over the years by both school and parents and our experiences in life.
Let me give you an example of the latter ...
As a child, you're playing on the sidewalk outside your home, when a man with red hair, a beard, and sandals comes up to you and, for no reason, kicks the hell out of you. You go crying into the house and eventually forget the incident. Fast-forward thirty years and you're the manager of a startup software firm and you've advertised for a systems engineer. You have a candidate that, on paper, is the one person that you've found that can take your company to the next level. The person that comes in for the interview has red hair, a beard, and is wearing sandals. Will you hire him? In this forum, you'll probably claim to be impartial, but will you really do so in that real situation?
This same concept holds true or almost all aspects of our nature. We tend to reject that which is not like us … be it skin color, religious beliefs or almost any other aspect of our being. It takes a really introspective person to truly discard the idea of 'not-like-me-ism.'
The reaction to a child announcing to their parents that they are gay. The white female teenager bringing home her boyfriend to introduce them to mom and dad …the boyfriend is black. These are just some of the endless biases that we possess.
The idea of s******c r****m is derivative of this human tendency. It isn't overt, it doesn't manifest itself in readily identifiable ways.
For the first two-hundred years of our republic, the entire federal judiciary was entirely white and male, and the product of the major Ivy-League law schools (Yale, Harvard, etc.). If you weren't in that league, your chances of being a federal judge were nil.
Until the 1920's, women weren't allowed to v**e. Why was that? Because they weren't smart enough? No, it was because women were (either overtly or subliminally) considered by men to be property … much like indentured servants or s***es. Bias again rears it's ugly head.
You can call it 's******c r****m', 'not-like-me-ism'. sexism, or any other term that you choose …it is a part of our nature, and by extension, our society. We are trying to fight it, but it's a tough fight to win. But we, as a nation, to fulfill the phrase 'all men are created equal', we have to try. While the founders used it in the context of white male property owners only, we have expanded it to all our citizens. There are those among us that would like to take us back to those days of white male supremacy, but they have to look deep into their own psyches and ask, 'is it right or Christian to be biased?'

This will be my final post on this thread.
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Nov 25, 2022 22:02:55   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
SeaLass wrote:
If a white male manager had two equally qualified white male applicants, he would most likely pick the one he would prefer to have a drink with after work, same as noted. His choice of applicants should be considered r****t only if he choses a SIGNIFICANTLY LESS qualified applicant because he is "uncomfortable" with the more qualified candidate for reasons of race, g****r, etc. It's true that a person can be blind to real r****t decisions but it is also possible to see r****m even where none exists.
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Nov 25, 2022 22:13:07   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
soontobeindicted mattoid wrote:
Nowhere except libraries. Where have you been?


Only for children's protections

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