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Nov 8, 2022 15:20:35   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
keepuphope wrote:
There are 3 concerns that effect every one of us..food,shelter, and safety. Those are basic needs we all need above all else. Social justice does not rate above those things. The trouble with politic now a days in my opinion is social issues have taken precedence over the main issues of our basic needs. Our government should be focused on the first 3 and back off the latter a little.

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Nov 8, 2022 15:38:22   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Because you are not honest about who you are. Start by admitting you are a leftist Democrat.


They seem to forget the govt is not their daddy

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Nov 10, 2022 21:47:28   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Curiously55 wrote:
Food, shelter and safety are social issues! If one does not have the basics plus medical access, the government can not exist. We need a more direct approach to govern. Like no riders on bills that have nothing to do with the issue being addressed by the senate or congress. A better accounting of the true cost of running the government. And a factual accounting of campaign funds and donations. The removal of lobbyists from influencing politicians and having access to government policy. They could address issues to the whole cabinet then leave, without grooming their favor. Just some thoughts.
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Glad to see I'm not the only one who disapproves of riders on bills. Much is made over a politician's refusal to support a popular bill when the reason may well be the riders which have nothing to do with the bill.
Until we have campaign finance reform we are screwed. Take immigration for instance. Republicans constantly harp on their opposition to illegals, but when push comes to shove, pro-illegal donors like the US Chamber of Commerce, which donates heavily to Republicans, have the actual say. Until there are serious reforms, the big donors will dictate policy.

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Nov 10, 2022 22:13:03   #
American Vet
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
Glad to see I'm not the only one who disapproves of riders on bills. Much is made over a politician's refusal to support a popular bill when the reason may well be the riders which have nothing to do with the bill.
Until we have campaign finance reform we are screwed. Take immigration for instance. Republicans constantly harp on their opposition to illegals, but when push comes to shove, pro-illegal donors like the US Chamber of Commerce, which donates heavily to Republicans, have the actual say. Until there are serious reforms, the big donors will dictate policy.
Glad to see I'm not the only one who disapproves o... (show quote)


Someone posted a while back some good guidelines.

- No riders. If the bill is to build a bridge over the Grand Canyon that is the only thing in the bill.

- No more than 10 pages.

- 2 ‘versions’ of the bill. One with the ‘legal lingo’, then a copy in layman’s language.

- each bill is published/posted 10 working days before the vote.

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