Thank you for your clarity in posting your Roman Catholic beliefs, Roamin'. That is rarely seen, since John Paul's Vatican II cosmetical "whitewashing" of the snarling fangs/true gospel of Rome... among those who have been seduced by the doctrines of demons.
You quoted Mark from 6th chapter:
53 "So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I tell you, unless you eat the flesh and drink the blood of the Son of Man, you have no life in you.
54 Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.
55 For My flesh is real food, and My blood is real drink."
but, Roamin.' you ignored the beginning of the chapter where Jesus fed the 5,000 people with 5 loafs of barley bread and 2 small fish. The crowd had chased Jesus down the following day hoping for another free meal, rather than interest in Jesus' spiritual message to them, and Jesus knew their intentions. The parallelism in which Hebrew scripture is often written; the symbolic, then the literal meaning" is used:
61 "Aware that His disciples were grumbling about this teaching, Jesus asked them, “Does this offend you?
62 Then what will happen if you see the Son of Man ascend to where He was before?
63
The Spirit gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life. 64 However, there are some of you who do not believe.”
An even clearer, "plainer spoken," if you will, than the mystical one you spoke is this expose of the gospel of the Holy Mother Institute of Roman Catholicism as revealed by Fr. John Anthony O'Brien, who was born in 1893, ordained a priest in 1916, taught at Notre Dame, and died in 1980,
In his 1938 best selling book, "The Faith of Millions," which went through 27 editions in 10 languages, Fr. O'Brien wrote on page 255-256,
"The priest speaks and lo! Christ, the eternal and omnipotent God, bows His head in humble obedience to the priest's command...""When the priest announces the tremendous words of consecration, "hoc est corpus meum" - "this is my body," in Latin – the words uttered by the celebrant during the consecration while he elevates the host, he reaches up into the heavens, brings Christ down from His throne, and places Him upon our altar to be offered up again as the Victim for the sins of man."
"It is a power greater than that of saints and angels, greater than that of Seraphim and Cherubim.
"Indeed it is greater even than the power of the Virgin Mary. While the Blessed Virgin was the human agency by which Christ became incarnate single time, the priest brings Christ down from heaven, and renders Him present on our altar as the eternal Victim for the sins of mankind - not once but a thousand times!
The priest speaks and lo! Christ, the eternal and omnipotent God bows His head in humble obedience to the priest's command."Of what sublime dignity is the office of the Christian priest who is thus privileged to act as the ambassador and the vicegerent of Christ on earth! He continues the essential ministry of Christ: he teaches the faithful with the authority of Christ, he offers up again the same sacrifice of adoration and atonement which Christ offered on Calvary.
"No wonder that the name which spiritual writers are especially fond of applying to the priest is that of alter Christus, for the priest is and and should be another Christ."
The Catholic priest who has received the power of the Apostles via his Holy Orders IS an "Alter Christus" The literal meaning: "another Christ" - [actually "in place of Christ as in "antiChrist".] Thus at the altar when he confects the sacrament of the Holy Eucharist he is in Persona Christi. The human man, the priest, no longer exists, rather it is Christ himself standing at the altar as both high priest and also as the victim offered. It is in this sense then, that it is TO CHRIST to whom "the omnipotent God bows His head in humble obedience...." NOT the priest the man, but to Christ himself."
That is the end of the quotation, which lacks all common sense, and any sense of Biblical literacy or meaning.
That quotation takes us back historically to the 8th century Before Christ, or before the common era, when all pagan religions had services in which they literally ate the flesh and blood of their deity/idols.
“The Sacrifice of the Mass clearly violates God’s Word and is a powerful deception that holds Catholics in bondage.” Indeed, all things taught by men must be judged according to God’s word - the Bible (Acts 17:10-11), and the actual teaching of the earliest centuries show rejection of this doctrine but the historical development begins as late as the fourth century. It is counter-intuitive to cite Church Fathers and Tradition as evidence for the doctrine of T***substantiation; for if we use such reasoning the earliest teachings in the Bible and the earliest Church Fathers opposed this doctrine.
It began seeping into the Christian Church after Roman Emperor Constantine perverted Christianity with political favourtism, wealth, and power to the detriment of their pursuit of Holy worship in spirit, in simplicity and in t***h. Spectacular pagan rituals, and rites with pomp and pageantry were substituted for the missing presence of the Holy Spirit.
In summary, the doctrine of T***substantiation consists of the necessity of believing: 1) the bread and wine truly, but invisibly become the very substance of the body and blood, soul and spirit of Christ; 2) the bread and wine are the objects of devout worship after having been t***substantiated; 3) this sacrament is the most important of Rome's seven sacraments, and it is promoted as the major evangelistic outreach of the Catholic church; 4) the symbolic bread and wine in memory of Jesus' once for all as it has been called “the sacrament of sacraments,”4) because, “The Worship and Adoration (Latria) must be given to Christ present in the Eucharist…. It follows from the wholeness and permanence of the Real Presence that the absolute worship of adoration (Cultus Latriae) is due to Christ present in the Eucharist.”5) Since this bread and wine truly become Christ’s body and blood, “The Holy Mass is a true and proper Sacrifice.” [except it isn't!]
1 Peter 3:18
For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit,"
The False Christ of Roman Catholicism
By Mike Gendron
"We know from God’s inspired Word that false teachers will come and preach another Jesus that the apostles never preached (2nd Cor. 11:3-4). So it should not surprise us that there are many counterfeit Christs in false religions masquerading as the true Christ. By far, the most deceptive false Christ is the Eucharist of the Roman Catholic Church.
The Blasphemous H**x That Deceives Catholics
In The Faith of Millions, a book certified by the Catholic Church to be “free of doctrinal errors”, Catholic priest John O’Brien explains how the Eucharist becomes Jesus during the Mass: “When the priest pronounces the words of consecration, he reaches up into the heavens, brings Christ down from His throne, and places Him upon our altar to be offered up again as the Victim for the sins of man. It is a power greater than that of saints and angels. The priest speaks and lo! Christ, the eternal and omnipotent God, bows His head in humble obedience to the priest’s command.”
The Outrageous Lie and its Implications
As preposterous and unthinkable as this may sound, the Catholic priest is said to have the power to call almighty God down from heaven and continue on an altar what the Lord Jesus finished on the cross (John 19:30). It is unfathomable that Catholics would believe a sinful priest can command our holy God to do anything and that God would actually obey him. Yet, over 200,000 times each day, throughout the world, priests believe they can re-present Jesus as a sacrificial victim for sins.
Our Lord Jesus Christ was voluntarily immersed in the wrath of God and endured excruciating pain once-for-all-time, for-all-sin (Hebrews 10:10,12). It is unconscionable that Roman Catholics would want to continue His suffering on their altars, or believe they have any power over God. It is also dishonoring to refer to Jesus as a “victim.” He laid His life down on His own initiative as an act of sacrificial love for His sheep (John 10:18). He was a “victor” who defeated death, not a “victim!”
Finally, that Jesus is seated at the right hand of God means that He conquered death. Hebrews 1:3 says “after making purification for sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high.” Jesus cleansed our sins on the cross through His death. He said, "It is finished." After that, the author of Hebrews immediately continues to Jesus’ ascension to heaven, where He sits at the right hand of God. So that Jesus is seated at the right hand of God, shows that death could not hold Him. He conquered death!
Roamin' Catholic wrote:
Let all of mankind tremble, the whole world shake, the heavens exalt, when Christ, the Son of the Living God, is present on the altar in the hands of the priest!
O admirable heights of sublime holiness! O sublime humility! O humble sublimity! When the Lord of the universe, God and the Son of God, so humbles Himself that for our salvation He hides Himself under the little form of bread!
Look brothers and sisters, upon the humility of God, and pour out your hearts before Him! Humble yourselves as well, so that you will be exalted by Him! Therefore hold back nothing of yourselves for yourselves, so that He who gives Himself totally to you may receive you totally!
-St. Francis of Asisi.
Dear Zemirah,
Examining the Consecrated Host for DNA does not conform to Christ's Intentions. He said, My Flesh is Real Food and My Blood is Real Drink! Unless you Eat My Flesh and Drink My Blood you have no Life in you!
So logic indicates that we should literally Eat His Flesh and Drink His Blood! Not doubt His Word and pick His Gift apart to ascertain its value! Or was He speaking metaphorically? If that was the case why did everyone, except His Disciples, leave Him? "This is a hard saying " was their reaction.
No, the preponderance of evidence, including instances of empirical evidence where biopsies indicated the
miraculous t***substantiation resulting in the Host consisting of living human heart tissue, refute DNA tests just as strongly as we refute our very own senses of sight, touch and taste. We pour ourselves out, we are totally devoid of not only senses but of sense, so that we may totally receive Him who gives Himself totally to us!
Peace be with you my friend.
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