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Was it Russia or the US who blew up the Nord Stream 2 Natural Gas Pipeline, or someone else ?
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Sep 28, 2022 20:25:42   #
son of witless
 
I admit, I am clueless. The two most likely suspects Russia and the US have good reasons to be innocent. Russia would have royally screwed itself from ever delivering gas to Europe easily, if it blew up the pipeline. If the US did it, there are two problems. First the Europeans would be pretty upset. Second a lot of Methane was just released directly into the atmosphere, which to a Global Warmer like Joe Biden would be a major sacrilege.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/09/did_the_us_or_its_agents_blow_up_the_nordstream_pipelines.html

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Sep 28, 2022 20:27:47   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
son of witless wrote:
I admit, I am clueless. The two most likely suspects Russia and the US have good reasons to be innocent. Russia would have royally screwed itself from ever delivering gas to Europe easily, if it blew up the pipeline. If the US did it, there are two problems. First the Europeans would be pretty upset. Second a lot of Methane was just released directly into the atmosphere, which to a Global Warmer like Joe Biden would be a major sacrilege.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/09/did_the_us_or_its_agents_blow_up_the_nordstream_pipelines.html
I admit, I am clueless. The two most likely suspec... (show quote)


Ask yourself, who wants to escalate the conflict....

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Sep 28, 2022 20:59:21   #
son of witless
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Ask yourself, who wants to escalate the conflict....


I think I get your point. However, putting aside the question of whether this was smart or extremely stupid, it was a quite bold move. Bold and dangerous. Looking at the main suspects, the question becomes, who has the history of making bold and dangerous moves, and who has the history being timid and unimaginative ?

Right now, based on no information, just a gut feeling, I think this could be a rogue unauthorized action. If that speculation has any validity, then it becomes who among rogue operators has this capability ? There can only be a very limited list of capable suspects. Somebody must know something.

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Sep 28, 2022 21:09:12   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
son of witless wrote:
I think I get your point. However, putting aside the question of whether this was smart or extremely stupid, it was a quite bold move. Bold and dangerous. Looking at the main suspects, the question becomes, who has the history of making bold and dangerous moves, and who has the history being timid and unimaginative ?

Right now, based on no information, just a gut feeling, I think this could be a rogue unauthorized action. If that speculation has any validity, then it becomes who among rogue operators has this capability ? There can only be a very limited list of capable suspects. Somebody must know something.
I think I get your point. However, putting aside t... (show quote)


I'd doubt that any actual USA Americans participated in this demolition. That does not negate the possibility that it was performed by "friends" while "sponsored" and directed by the USA.

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Sep 28, 2022 21:13:01   #
son of witless
 
WinkyTink wrote:
I'd doubt that any actual USA Americans participated in this demolition. That does not negate the possibility that it was performed by "friends" while "sponsored" and directed by the USA.


It is just that it is out of character for Joe to have authorized this. Considering the magnitude of the event, why haven't those responsible been outed ?

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Sep 28, 2022 21:19:48   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
son of witless wrote:
It is just that it is out of character for Joe to have authorized this. Considering the magnitude of the event, why haven't those responsible been outed ?


It is hard to believe, unless you accept that Joe is merely the puppet/useful idiot for those (Obama et al) actually running the show.

Biden is getting worse, evidenced by last week's getting lost on stage. That makes him easier to manipulate. "Hey Joe, just approve this and it will be ice cream time!" Or "Hey Joe, where you going with that cone in your hand?"

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Sep 28, 2022 21:25:55   #
son of witless
 
WinkyTink wrote:
It is hard to believe, unless you accept that Joe is merely the puppet/useful idiot for those (Obama et al) actually running the show.

Biden is getting worse, evidenced by last week's getting lost on stage. That makes him easier to manipulate. "Hey Joe, just approve this and it will be ice cream time!" Or "Hey Joe, where you going with that cone in your hand?"


I keep going back to the Global Warming angle. A hell of a lot of earth killing Methane was released. Some of Joe's handlers are foam at the mouth Global Warmers. They would be at the throats of the other puppet masters who authorized this.

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Sep 28, 2022 21:32:22   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
son of witless wrote:
I keep going back to the Global Warming angle. A hell of a lot of earth killing Methane was released. Some of Joe's handlers are foam at the mouth Global Warmers. They would be at the throats of the other puppet masters who authorized this.


I get your point but......
C'mon man. The grass-roots are believers, devoted, foam-at-the-mouth Global Warmers. The political leadership and their corporate co-conspirators are in it for money and control, period.

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Sep 28, 2022 21:35:29   #
son of witless
 
WinkyTink wrote:
I get your point but......
C'mon man. The grass-roots are believers, devoted, foam-at-the-mouth Global Warmers. The political leadership and their corporate co-conspirators are in it for money and control, period.


This is like one of those who done it mysteries, I see on the various CSI TV series. Red Herrings abound.

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Sep 29, 2022 07:59:33   #
American Vet
 
son of witless wrote:
I keep going back to the Global Warming angle. A hell of a lot of earth killing Methane was released. Some of Joe's handlers are foam at the mouth Global Warmers. They would be at the throats of the other puppet masters who authorized this.


I might argue with you on this. Consider this: Those types are all about "for the greater good" - sacrificing now to cause much damage and further their goals is something, I believe, they would do.

Just food for thought.

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Sep 29, 2022 11:16:06   #
son of witless
 
American Vet wrote:
I might argue with you on this. Consider this: Those types are all about "for the greater good" - sacrificing now to cause much damage and further their goals is something, I believe, they would do.

Just food for thought.


It still gets back to the fact that this is a very public act. This is not some secret nuclear base in Iran that was destroyed. Our intelligence agencies cannot just stay silent forever on who pulled this off.

It also illustrates how vulnerable undersea pipelines are. Lets us say the Russians did not do this. They certainly have the capability to retaliate, or just perhaps if WE did this, it was retaliation for Russian hackers shutting down the American Colonial pipeline in May of 2021. Of course this is a much bigger deal.

Just throwing crap at the wall. No idea who did what or why.

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Sep 29, 2022 11:18:17   #
American Vet
 
son of witless wrote:
It still gets back to the fact that this is a very public act. This is not some secret nuclear base in Iran that was destroyed. Our intelligence agencies cannot just stay silent forever on who pulled this off.

It also illustrates how vulnerable undersea pipelines are. Lets us say the Russians did not do this. They certainly have the capability to retaliate, or just perhaps if WE did this, it was retaliation for Russian hackers shutting down the American Colonial pipeline in May of 2021. Of course this is a much bigger deal.

Just throwing crap at the wall. No idea who did what or why.
It still gets back to the fact that this is a very... (show quote)



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Oct 1, 2022 00:11:25   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
son of witless wrote:
It is just that it is out of character for Joe to have authorized this. Considering the magnitude of the event, why haven't those responsible been outed ?


I doubt he authorized it.. Or was even included in the decision...

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Oct 1, 2022 00:16:21   #
Bevvy
 
son of witless wrote:
I keep going back to the Global Warming angle. A hell of a lot of earth killing Methane was released. Some of Joe's handlers are foam at the mouth Global Warmers. They would be at the throats of the other puppet masters who authorized this.


I dont think they actually believe this global warming thing they preach . Follow the money

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Oct 1, 2022 08:41:40   #
son of witless
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I doubt he authorized it.. Or was even included in the decision...


As much as I constantly bash President Joe Biden as a demented old fool, there is no way something with the ramifications of this, does not get approved or disapproved at the Presidential level. If the CIA pulled this off, eventually somebody figures it out.

Then Joe would have to explain to the Europeans why the US destroyed a pipeline in their backyard that in the future could supply their energy needs. He would also have to explain to his mouth foamy Global Warmers why he caused the release of so much Earth Killing methane, which also killed a lot of marine life.

If it turns out to be a rogue CIA operation, then Joe's competence as Commander in Chief is for the thousandth time called into question.

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