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Beto says the AR-15 was designed for use on the battle field.
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Aug 11, 2022 11:32:17   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
As far as I know, that is a lie. The AR-15 is pretty much just a deer rifle designed to look like a military style weapon, and Ii might even be wrong about that. But I'm pretty sure is was never designed or intended to be used on the battle field.

Am I wrong??

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Aug 11, 2022 11:37:06   #
Liberty Tree
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
As far as I know, that is a lie. The AR-15 is pretty much just a deer rifle designed to look like a military style weapon, and Ii might even be wrong about that. But I'm pretty sure is was never designed or intended to be used on the battle field.

Am I wrong??


No, it is just another semi-automatic rifle with a different design.

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Aug 11, 2022 11:40:30   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
No, it is just another semi-automatic rifle with a different design.


As I thought. It's just another lie the democraps tell the ignorant who are just too ignorant to know and too stupid and lazy to find out for themselves.

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Aug 11, 2022 11:43:53   #
Liberty Tree
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
As I thought. It's just another lie the democraps tell the ignorant who are just too ignorant to know and too stupid and lazy to find out for themselves.


That is a fact.

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Aug 11, 2022 11:44:03   #
kemmer
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
As far as I know, that is a lie. The AR-15 is pretty much just a deer rifle designed to look like a military style weapon,
Am I wrong??

Yes. An AR15 can rip the entire mid section out of a deer. Some of the kids shot by an AR 15 in Uvalde TX could only be identified by theur clothing.

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Aug 11, 2022 11:49:55   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
kemmer wrote:
Yes. An AR15 can rip the entire mid section out of a deer. Some of the kids shot by an AR 15 in Uvalde TX could only be identified by theur clothing.


This is true but it is not the point of this thread, is it?? Maybe Beto should say that instead of claiming the AR-15 was designed for the battle field, which is a total lie.

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Aug 11, 2022 11:55:42   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
As far as I know, that is a lie. The AR-15 is pretty much just a deer rifle designed to look like a military style weapon, and Ii might even be wrong about that. But I'm pretty sure is was never designed or intended to be used on the battle field.

Am I wrong??


Sorry but YOU ARE WRONG

The AR 15 is the prototype for the first M16 which was first used by the US Air Force.

1963: The M-16 is Born

With the AR-15 in the hands of the Air Force, a standard model of the rifle is born. They dub it the M-16, the most famous service weapon of the United States Military.

General Curtis LeMay saw a demonstration of the AR-15 in 1960. Impressed by the prowess of this new firearm, when General LeMay became the Air Force Chief of Staff in the Summer of 1961, he placed 80,000 AR-15's on order for the U.S. Air Force.

In 1961, ten AR-15's were sent to South Vietnam, as the United States continued to penetrate into the jungles of Indochina.

Despite a great deal of success, US Army wasn't enthusiastic about adopting the new rifle.

Although test after test was ordered, even demanding the attention of President John F. Kennedy itself, two things were clear. First, the United States was outmatched and outgunned by the AK-47 in South Vietnam. Second, the U.S. Army was too rigid and opposed to change to replace the clearly inferior M-14.

The link below includes the entire history of the AR-15

https://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/art/the-complete-history-of-the-ar-15-rifle#:~:text=Around%20the%20same%20time%2C%20the,8%2C500%20for%20Air%20Force%20use.&text=With%20the%20AR%2D15%20in,of%20the%20United%20States%20Military.

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Aug 11, 2022 11:56:57   #
Peaver Bogart Loc: Montana
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
As far as I know, that is a lie. The AR-15 is pretty much just a deer rifle designed to look like a military style weapon, and Ii might even be wrong about that. But I'm pretty sure is was never designed or intended to be used on the battle field.

Am I wrong??


The M-16 was designed for the military and was first made by Armalite. It could be used as either semi or fully automatic. They claimed you didn't have to clean it or do any maintenance on it, but in actual battle conditions, it would jam up and a lot of other problems. They then tweaked it a little and sent out instructions for cleaning and maintenance. It became a very popular and reliable weapon. Then Armalite designed a rifle based on the M-16 for civilian use, the AR-15, which was only semi automatic.

In my opinion, the AR-15 .223 caliber is a little light for deer hunting, although I've k**led many deer with just a .22 long rifle in my younger days. In fact, I think in some states the .223 AR-15 is illegal for hunting deer. However, it is a good weapon for varmints (coyotes, groundhogs, feral hogs, etc)

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Aug 11, 2022 12:00:31   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
As far as I know, that is a lie. The AR-15 is pretty much just a deer rifle designed to look like a military style weapon, and Ii might even be wrong about that. But I'm pretty sure is was never designed or intended to be used on the battle field.

Am I wrong??


No you are right. I have family full of military. They go to the battlefield with automatic weapons and/or automatic capabilities. Ar-15 does not have automatic capabilities.PS it was tested for military capabilities but did not meet the standards.

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Aug 11, 2022 12:00:32   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
Sorry but YOU ARE WRONG

The AR 15 is the prototype for the first M16 which was first used by the US Air Force.

1963: The M-16 is Born

With the AR-15 in the hands of the Air Force, a standard model of the rifle is born. They dub it the M-16, the most famous service weapon of the United States Military.

General Curtis LeMay saw a demonstration of the AR-15 in 1960. Impressed by the prowess of this new firearm, when General LeMay became the Air Force Chief of Staff in the Summer of 1961, he placed 80,000 AR-15's on order for the U.S. Air Force.

In 1961, ten AR-15's were sent to South Vietnam, as the United States continued to penetrate into the jungles of Indochina.

Despite a great deal of success, US Army wasn't enthusiastic about adopting the new rifle.

Although test after test was ordered, even demanding the attention of President John F. Kennedy itself, two things were clear. First, the United States was outmatched and outgunned by the AK-47 in South Vietnam. Second, the U.S. Army was too rigid and opposed to change to replace the clearly inferior M-14.

The link below includes the entire history of the AR-15

https://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/art/the-complete-history-of-the-ar-15-rifle#:~:text=Around%20the%20same%20time%2C%20the,8%2C500%20for%20Air%20Force%20use.&text=With%20the%20AR%2D15%20in,of%20the%20United%20States%20Military.
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I DID say as far as I know. I might stand corrected.

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Aug 11, 2022 12:01:28   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
microphor wrote:
No you are right. I have family full of military. They go to the battlefield with automatic weapons and/or automatic capabilities. Ar-15 does not have automatic capabilities.


Perhaps I do not stand corrected. Good info!!

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Aug 11, 2022 12:06:09   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
As far as I know, that is a lie. The AR-15 is pretty much just a deer rifle designed to look like a military style weapon, and Ii might even be wrong about that. But I'm pretty sure is was never designed or intended to be used on the battle field.

Am I wrong??

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Aug 11, 2022 12:08:40   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Yes. You are wrong.
Deer Hunting Rifles are defined by one strategically, thoughtfully placed shot for ….
One Shot , One K**l.
Not ratatatatatatatatat !!!
Did I get him ?????

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Aug 11, 2022 12:09:03   #
coelacanth Loc: Michigan swamp
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
As far as I know, that is a lie. The AR-15 is pretty much just a deer rifle designed to look like a military style weapon, and Ii might even be wrong about that. But I'm pretty sure is was never designed or intended to be used on the battle field.

Am I wrong??


No armies anywhere use AR-15s. When the rifle went on the market for civilians to purchase in the 1950's, the army wanted a selective fire version for the infantry soldiers, hence the M-16.

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Aug 11, 2022 12:09:47   #
Kevyn
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
As far as I know, that is a lie. The AR-15 is pretty much just a deer rifle designed to look like a military style weapon, and Ii might even be wrong about that. But I'm pretty sure is was never designed or intended to be used on the battle field.

Am I wrong??

An AR-15 is the descendant of an assault rifle designed by Armalite that evolved into the M-16 used by US forces in Vietnam and the M-4 currently used by the US military. The 5.56 round it utilizes is considered a bit light for deer hunting. It was indeed designed specifically for use on the battlefield. The only difference between the AR-15 and M-4 is the M-4 has a burst fire se******n not available on the AR-15 otherwise they are the same weapon.

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