LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

As I looked at some video, they kept showing FBI agents with guns. What were they for? A shoot out with the President? A shoot out with the Secret Service? They might have had a legal warrant for this and that, but what would have happened if the Secret Service demanded they disarm before entering the President's residence. The President's son was there. Could his Secret Service agent demand that they disarm before entering. They have a right and duty to protect him. How do you protect him with armed hostile FBI agents running amok through the President's residence, breaking into safes and such?

Also, were the FBI agents monitored and watched as they ran amok and required to show where each item or box confiscated was actually on the warrant and signed for and sealed?
Was breaking into the safe on the warrant?

Just some questions I haven't seen. Or answered. What if the President was there. Could the Secret Service have stopped them from entering, to protect the President? Or his son? Or Wife? Could they have disarmed them?


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Liberty Tree

Why did they not let his lawyer be present?

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

It is my understanding the FeloniousBumblingIdiots planned the raid for when the President was to be absent. The prime reason being protocol requires the person on whom the warrant is issued be handcuffed. They wanted to avoid that situation.

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

An excellent question.

LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

If that is true, would the Secret Service be able to stop it claiming he is under our protection. Again, would this create a conflict between agencies. The secret Service has absolute control over his safety and protection.

LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

As we learn more. we find out that they ordered everyone out. The Secret Service?

The Secret Service should have ordered them out. The Secret Service secures the building and they can't just let a mob of people in, even if they are FBI and have a warrant.

The Secret Service should have read the warrant and then allowed one FBI agent into the building to take the boxes of stuff that was listed in the warrant. That agent would have to have a Secret Clearance since they believed that some of the boxes might have held classified documents. That agent would have to take custody himself and only allow the custody to leave him and turned over to another agent with a Secret Clearance. A chain of custody should be established with at least two agents at all times in control of the boxes. They should not be opened until President Trump's lawyer was there to approve the process. Then, between President Trump's lawyer, and the Archives department, all approved documents would go to the archives department. All disputed items would be sealed and await a court hearing on them.

Otherwise, the Chiquita brigade should go to hell.

And what is it with these agents going trough Melania's wardrobe, by themselves. Are they perverts?

I'm not contesting the Archives department's right to some or all of these records or the classification of them as Secret or wh**ever. Not even a warrant. It is the actions of the agents enforcing the order and running amok and offering no chain of custody, and demanding the right to be alone where they could alter evidence, or taking the evidence in a manner where they could insert or remove wh**ever they want, unsupervised, or the ability while alone to bug President Trump's residence, or having weapons in President Trump's residence thereby threatening his son, and challenge his protective services the Secret Service.

This is a total F*CK UP.

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woodguru

You do understand that the secret service agents are federal officers, right?

Not trump's personal police or security force, they would be honoring and complying with federal warrants exactly like they did. Had trump been there it could have been interesting, because there would be little doubt that trump would certainly try to order them to keep FBI agents out...

At which point any who even tried to comply would be in some deep doo doo.

Would have been interesting, but this way was better and kept the drama to a minimum. Would have been great reality TV though to have trump there yelling and screaming as they were forced to put him in cuffs.

woodguru

You apparently have no clue how this was done, they would have had at least two agents to a room, they would be listing items set aside to be taken...

My guess is that the secret service constantly sweeps for bugs

LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

The Secret Service is part of the Treasury Department and not part of the Justice Department. They are his personal security force, mandated by law, and not under his direction, but to protect him and his immediate family and the premises within which they live. They have the right to oversee those premises and are in fact charged to protect those places and those with individual protection, like his son who was there. Logically that would include disarming the FBI under those circumstances, as they are providing security so FBI guns are unnecessary. And a threat.

***because there would be little doubt that trump would certainly try to order them to keep FBI agents out...
>>>How stupid of you. There is no doubt that your statement about little doubt is full of doubt. President Trump would probably be demanding that they allow his lawyers to oversee this invasion of his home, and demand that the number be kept to a minimum so as to oversee their operation, and make sure they stay within the bounds of the warrant, and demand that they be accompanied by a Secret Service agent everywhere they went. All of my comments are logical and make common sense. Something you seem to lack all to often.

***Would have been interesting, but this way was better and kept the drama to a minimum. Would have been great reality TV though to have trump there yelling and screaming as they were forced to put him in cuffs.
>>>Childish delusions.

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LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

***You apparently have no clue how this was done,
>>>And neither do you.