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Aug 5, 2022 14:54:54   #
Capt-jack Loc: Home
 
Many say that Trump should not run in 2024. They are wrong. I allowed my distaste for Trump's personality to override his virtues, which are considerable. Some people want Trump without his vices. I was among them -- until yesterday when I watched and listened to Tom Klingenstein's speech titled Trump's virtues. It was masterful and shamed me that I did not make the distinction between Trump's character and his virtues, the former being deeply flawed, the latter being almost perfect. They need to man up in my defense of the former President's virtues. The speech was among the most pointed I have heard and deserves some exposure. Klingenstein says:
Other Republicans say some version of I like Trump policies but I don't like the rest of him. This gets it almost backward. Although Trump advanced many important policies, it is the 'rest of him' that contains the virtue that inspires the movement Trump was born for the current crisis, a life and death struggle against a totalitarian enemy I call woke communism... that controls all the cultural and economic powers in America.

Trump revealed, not caused, the divide in this country. In war, you must make a stand Trump is a manly man... traditional manhood, even when flawed, is absolutely essential Trump plays to win... There are no clean hands in a fistfight Trump is unreservedly, unquestionably pro-America Trump is a refreshing break from the guilt and self-loathing that marks our age.

It is anti-Americanism that makes so many of us very angry: The Left has trashed America's Founding and her history to the point where some believe it virtuous to hate America. Rather than advocating forgiveness for sins, the Left is advocating hair shirts, self-flagellation, and perpetual guilt. It is un-American and certainly un-Christian.

Trump thinks we can vanquish all comers if we just put our minds to it, and he's right. Courage never demands perfection. Trump over and over said exactly what political correctness prohibits one from saying... Trump said Haiti is a shithole and that representative Maxine Waters has a low IQ. These were not racist lies. They were uncouth, politically incorrect observations that most of us would agree with but would not dare say.

In 2016, we loved Trump for his outspokenness. But many seem to have changed their minds without cause; Trump is the same today as he was before he was elected. The very things we disdain today are the things that made him the man of our time.

From morning to night, we were told that Trump is a racist. But endless repetition does not make it true. It isn't. Trump's contempt for political correctness showed patriotic Americans that its ever-tightening grip could be loosened... It is difficult to overestimate the significance of Trump's fight against political correctness, a fight in which most Republicans are reluctant to engage. Trump treated the woke media with the same contempt he treated political correctness, provoking their outrage and revealing their utter corruption... it must be defeated.

I take back my unwillingness to engage Trump on his own terms. It is the Left, not we, who are politically correct. They are the ones restricting speech, canceling, and censoring, not we on the Right.

Unlike most politicians, when Trump sees a problem, he goes out and fixes it. He fixed our porous borders. He moved our Israeli embassy to Jerusalem after decades of inaction. He eliminated hate-America critical race theory in his administrative agency. He developed a vaccine in record time. He achieved energy independence and much, much more.

His accomplishments far outweigh his personality quirks. No other president did so much in so little time.

Trump smoked rats out of hiding places. Because of Trump, we know our intelligence agencies are corrupt. We know also that the mainstream media is not just biased, that it is the propaganda arm of the Democratic party.

If not for the vehement and irrational hatred of Trump, we never would have discovered that our own security and intelligence structures are compromised. I blame the NeverTrumpers for corrupting these Agencies. This unprecedented breach of the very security of this nation is unprecedented and deeply dangerous, leaving us open to the espionage of courtesans who prey on politicians who think with their private parts.

A large part of Trump's appeal was that he was a bona fide outsider. He distrusted the experts who believe they knew better than the average American how to run the country. This distrust was appealing to Trump's base who believed, and with good reason, that is the experts who created the despotic mess in which we find ourselves.

We always knew but never had anyone champion that we, not the Swamp, knew better how to manage our money, our time, our personal lives, our resources, and our families. In their authoritarian mindsets, the Left wanted to take over all these very personal, uniquely American functions and replace them with governmental overreach. They nearly got their wish, had it not been for COVID's home zoom classes where we found out that very young children are being sexualized, perverted, deliberately alienated from their parents, and taught to hate America and white people.

They know that Republicans will lose all further elections until they get to the bottom of the last one.

This most sensitive area of politics is a disaster. I believe the election was stolen and millions of others do. We now have evidence from many quarters that this is so. It cannot be permitted a repeat or there will be severe repercussions that will dwarf the current ones.

Some will say that Trump is a bad man and that disqualifies him. I do not think Trump is a bad man, but for those who do, I remind them that a bad man in some circumstances can be a good president. If you are dying of thirst and there is only one person offering you water, you accept the water gratefully without much concern for the character of your rescuer.

We wanted Trump not only to fix things; we wanted him to be perfect while doing it. That is unrealistic in the average family, the average relationship, the average business, and the average political or cultural milieu. Yet some of us wanted Trump to be perfect enough to invite them to tea. He is not that man. But he is the man for our tumultuous times.

This enumeration of Trump's virtues does not fully capture his uncommon courage and firmness of purpose. Trump is the most towering political figure in living memory Trump inspired a movement. If properly deployed this movement might challenge the woke-comms, and God willing, save the country.

These very things are what the Left hate, yet it is not their favor we need to care about. They will not embrace anyone on the Republican ticket and certainly not one they cannot bully. We need to stop worrying about the acceptance of our candidates by the Left or they will have won.

Republicans, however, should not forget that it is his support and the spirit they embrace that has become the life force of the Republican party. Among the talked-about alternatives to Trump, I have not yet seen anyone who possesses or even understands Trump's virtues. Nor have I seen anyone with his backbone and fortitude. One does not appreciate the strength of relentless gale-force winds until one is in the eye of the storm.
which is exactly where Trump and we are at this moment. We have to prepare for the gale-force winds we will encounter. To not do this is to ignore the lessons of the recent past and it will be forever to our sorrow to ignore them.

His virtue must be the standard by which we judge other candidates.
Amen and amen. We don't have to like his personality but his virtues far outweigh it. I humbly stand corrected and offer my mea culpa.





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Aug 5, 2022 15:08:26   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Capt-jack wrote:
Many say that Trump should not run in 2024. They are wrong. I allowed my distaste for Trump's personality to override his virtues, which are considerable. Some people want Trump without his vices. I was among them -- until yesterday when I watched and listened to Tom Klingenstein's speech titled Trump's virtues. It was masterful and shamed me that I did not make the distinction between Trump's character and his virtues, the former being deeply flawed, the latter being almost perfect. They need to man up in my defense of the former President's virtues. The speech was among the most pointed I have heard and deserves some exposure. Klingenstein says:
Other Republicans say some version of I like Trump policies but I don't like the rest of him. This gets it almost backward. Although Trump advanced many important policies, it is the 'rest of him' that contains the virtue that inspires the movement Trump was born for the current crisis, a life and death struggle against a totalitarian enemy I call woke communism... that controls all the cultural and economic powers in America.

Trump revealed, not caused, the divide in this country. In war, you must make a stand Trump is a manly man... traditional manhood, even when flawed, is absolutely essential Trump plays to win... There are no clean hands in a fistfight Trump is unreservedly, unquestionably pro-America Trump is a refreshing break from the guilt and self-loathing that marks our age.

It is anti-Americanism that makes so many of us very angry: The Left has trashed America's Founding and her history to the point where some believe it virtuous to hate America. Rather than advocating forgiveness for sins, the Left is advocating hair shirts, self-flagellation, and perpetual guilt. It is un-American and certainly un-Christian.

Trump thinks we can vanquish all comers if we just put our minds to it, and he's right. Courage never demands perfection. Trump over and over said exactly what political correctness prohibits one from saying... Trump said Haiti is a shithole and that representative Maxine Waters has a low IQ. These were not racist lies. They were uncouth, politically incorrect observations that most of us would agree with but would not dare say.

In 2016, we loved Trump for his outspokenness. But many seem to have changed their minds without cause; Trump is the same today as he was before he was elected. The very things we disdain today are the things that made him the man of our time.

From morning to night, we were told that Trump is a racist. But endless repetition does not make it true. It isn't. Trump's contempt for political correctness showed patriotic Americans that its ever-tightening grip could be loosened... It is difficult to overestimate the significance of Trump's fight against political correctness, a fight in which most Republicans are reluctant to engage. Trump treated the woke media with the same contempt he treated political correctness, provoking their outrage and revealing their utter corruption... it must be defeated.

I take back my unwillingness to engage Trump on his own terms. It is the Left, not we, who are politically correct. They are the ones restricting speech, canceling, and censoring, not we on the Right.

Unlike most politicians, when Trump sees a problem, he goes out and fixes it. He fixed our porous borders. He moved our Israeli embassy to Jerusalem after decades of inaction. He eliminated hate-America critical race theory in his administrative agency. He developed a vaccine in record time. He achieved energy independence and much, much more.

His accomplishments far outweigh his personality quirks. No other president did so much in so little time.

Trump smoked rats out of hiding places. Because of Trump, we know our intelligence agencies are corrupt. We know also that the mainstream media is not just biased, that it is the propaganda arm of the Democratic party.

If not for the vehement and irrational hatred of Trump, we never would have discovered that our own security and intelligence structures are compromised. I blame the NeverTrumpers for corrupting these Agencies. This unprecedented breach of the very security of this nation is unprecedented and deeply dangerous, leaving us open to the espionage of courtesans who prey on politicians who think with their private parts.

A large part of Trump's appeal was that he was a bona fide outsider. He distrusted the experts who believe they knew better than the average American how to run the country. This distrust was appealing to Trump's base who believed, and with good reason, that is the experts who created the despotic mess in which we find ourselves.

We always knew but never had anyone champion that we, not the Swamp, knew better how to manage our money, our time, our personal lives, our resources, and our families. In their authoritarian mindsets, the Left wanted to take over all these very personal, uniquely American functions and replace them with governmental overreach. They nearly got their wish, had it not been for COVID's home zoom classes where we found out that very young children are being sexualized, perverted, deliberately alienated from their parents, and taught to hate America and white people.

They know that Republicans will lose all further elections until they get to the bottom of the last one.

This most sensitive area of politics is a disaster. I believe the election was stolen and millions of others do. We now have evidence from many quarters that this is so. It cannot be permitted a repeat or there will be severe repercussions that will dwarf the current ones.

Some will say that Trump is a bad man and that disqualifies him. I do not think Trump is a bad man, but for those who do, I remind them that a bad man in some circumstances can be a good president. If you are dying of thirst and there is only one person offering you water, you accept the water gratefully without much concern for the character of your rescuer.

We wanted Trump not only to fix things; we wanted him to be perfect while doing it. That is unrealistic in the average family, the average relationship, the average business, and the average political or cultural milieu. Yet some of us wanted Trump to be perfect enough to invite them to tea. He is not that man. But he is the man for our tumultuous times.

This enumeration of Trump's virtues does not fully capture his uncommon courage and firmness of purpose. Trump is the most towering political figure in living memory Trump inspired a movement. If properly deployed this movement might challenge the woke-comms, and God willing, save the country.

These very things are what the Left hate, yet it is not their favor we need to care about. They will not embrace anyone on the Republican ticket and certainly not one they cannot bully. We need to stop worrying about the acceptance of our candidates by the Left or they will have won.

Republicans, however, should not forget that it is his support and the spirit they embrace that has become the life force of the Republican party. Among the talked-about alternatives to Trump, I have not yet seen anyone who possesses or even understands Trump's virtues. Nor have I seen anyone with his backbone and fortitude. One does not appreciate the strength of relentless gale-force winds until one is in the eye of the storm.
which is exactly where Trump and we are at this moment. We have to prepare for the gale-force winds we will encounter. To not do this is to ignore the lessons of the recent past and it will be forever to our sorrow to ignore them.

His virtue must be the standard by which we judge other candidates.
Amen and amen. We don't have to like his personality but his virtues far outweigh it. I humbly stand corrected and offer my mea culpa.
Many say that Trump should not run in 2024. They a... (show quote)



Jack, I hope you do not actually agree with this ridiculous article.. It is the absolute most ridiculous I have read trying to justify trump and his attempt..

We need to find some point which will calm down both sides of the now wide open divide in America. And trump is only an infestation to make it worse..

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Aug 5, 2022 15:18:16   #
Capt-jack Loc: Home
 
permafrost wrote:
Jack, I hope you do not actually agree with this ridiculous article.. It is the absolute most ridiculous I have read trying to justify trump and his attempt..

We need to find some point which will calm down both sides of the now wide open divide in America. And trump is only an infestation to make it worse..


I find your view of the facts normal. Most libs will say the same thing, as they all lack the understanding of the world as do you. That is why they will always bang heads with the truth and the facts.



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Aug 5, 2022 15:20:46   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
permafrost wrote:
Jack, I hope you do not actually agree with this ridiculous article.. It is the absolute most ridiculous I have read trying to justify trump and his attempt..

We need to find some point which will calm down both sides of the now wide open divide in America. And trump is only an infestation to make it worse..


You think the Senile Shitweasel currently in the White House is an improvement. We have little to talk about. When Trump was president I could afford to drive my truck and buy a damn pot roast every now and again.

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Aug 5, 2022 15:24:34   #
Simple Sam Loc: USA
 
Capt-jack wrote:
Many say that Trump should not run in 2024. They are wrong. I allowed my distaste for Trump's personality to override his virtues, which are considerable. Some people want Trump without his vices. I was among them -- until yesterday when I watched and listened to Tom Klingenstein's speech titled Trump's virtues. It was masterful and shamed me that I did not make the distinction between Trump's character and his virtues, the former being deeply flawed, the latter being almost perfect. They need to man up in my defense of the former President's virtues. The speech was among the most pointed I have heard and deserves some exposure. Klingenstein says:
Other Republicans say some version of I like Trump policies but I don't like the rest of him. This gets it almost backward. Although Trump advanced many important policies, it is the 'rest of him' that contains the virtue that inspires the movement Trump was born for the current crisis, a life and death struggle against a totalitarian enemy I call woke communism... that controls all the cultural and economic powers in America.

Trump revealed, not caused, the divide in this country. In war, you must make a stand Trump is a manly man... traditional manhood, even when flawed, is absolutely essential Trump plays to win... There are no clean hands in a fistfight Trump is unreservedly, unquestionably pro-America Trump is a refreshing break from the guilt and self-loathing that marks our age.

It is anti-Americanism that makes so many of us very angry: The Left has trashed America's Founding and her history to the point where some believe it virtuous to hate America. Rather than advocating forgiveness for sins, the Left is advocating hair shirts, self-flagellation, and perpetual guilt. It is un-American and certainly un-Christian.

Trump thinks we can vanquish all comers if we just put our minds to it, and he's right. Courage never demands perfection. Trump over and over said exactly what political correctness prohibits one from saying... Trump said Haiti is a shithole and that representative Maxine Waters has a low IQ. These were not racist lies. They were uncouth, politically incorrect observations that most of us would agree with but would not dare say.

In 2016, we loved Trump for his outspokenness. But many seem to have changed their minds without cause; Trump is the same today as he was before he was elected. The very things we disdain today are the things that made him the man of our time.

From morning to night, we were told that Trump is a racist. But endless repetition does not make it true. It isn't. Trump's contempt for political correctness showed patriotic Americans that its ever-tightening grip could be loosened... It is difficult to overestimate the significance of Trump's fight against political correctness, a fight in which most Republicans are reluctant to engage. Trump treated the woke media with the same contempt he treated political correctness, provoking their outrage and revealing their utter corruption... it must be defeated.

I take back my unwillingness to engage Trump on his own terms. It is the Left, not we, who are politically correct. They are the ones restricting speech, canceling, and censoring, not we on the Right.

Unlike most politicians, when Trump sees a problem, he goes out and fixes it. He fixed our porous borders. He moved our Israeli embassy to Jerusalem after decades of inaction. He eliminated hate-America critical race theory in his administrative agency. He developed a vaccine in record time. He achieved energy independence and much, much more.

His accomplishments far outweigh his personality quirks. No other president did so much in so little time.

Trump smoked rats out of hiding places. Because of Trump, we know our intelligence agencies are corrupt. We know also that the mainstream media is not just biased, that it is the propaganda arm of the Democratic party.

If not for the vehement and irrational hatred of Trump, we never would have discovered that our own security and intelligence structures are compromised. I blame the NeverTrumpers for corrupting these Agencies. This unprecedented breach of the very security of this nation is unprecedented and deeply dangerous, leaving us open to the espionage of courtesans who prey on politicians who think with their private parts.

A large part of Trump's appeal was that he was a bona fide outsider. He distrusted the experts who believe they knew better than the average American how to run the country. This distrust was appealing to Trump's base who believed, and with good reason, that is the experts who created the despotic mess in which we find ourselves.

We always knew but never had anyone champion that we, not the Swamp, knew better how to manage our money, our time, our personal lives, our resources, and our families. In their authoritarian mindsets, the Left wanted to take over all these very personal, uniquely American functions and replace them with governmental overreach. They nearly got their wish, had it not been for COVID's home zoom classes where we found out that very young children are being sexualized, perverted, deliberately alienated from their parents, and taught to hate America and white people.

They know that Republicans will lose all further elections until they get to the bottom of the last one.

This most sensitive area of politics is a disaster. I believe the election was stolen and millions of others do. We now have evidence from many quarters that this is so. It cannot be permitted a repeat or there will be severe repercussions that will dwarf the current ones.

Some will say that Trump is a bad man and that disqualifies him. I do not think Trump is a bad man, but for those who do, I remind them that a bad man in some circumstances can be a good president. If you are dying of thirst and there is only one person offering you water, you accept the water gratefully without much concern for the character of your rescuer.

We wanted Trump not only to fix things; we wanted him to be perfect while doing it. That is unrealistic in the average family, the average relationship, the average business, and the average political or cultural milieu. Yet some of us wanted Trump to be perfect enough to invite them to tea. He is not that man. But he is the man for our tumultuous times.

This enumeration of Trump's virtues does not fully capture his uncommon courage and firmness of purpose. Trump is the most towering political figure in living memory Trump inspired a movement. If properly deployed this movement might challenge the woke-comms, and God willing, save the country.

These very things are what the Left hate, yet it is not their favor we need to care about. They will not embrace anyone on the Republican ticket and certainly not one they cannot bully. We need to stop worrying about the acceptance of our candidates by the Left or they will have won.

Republicans, however, should not forget that it is his support and the spirit they embrace that has become the life force of the Republican party. Among the talked-about alternatives to Trump, I have not yet seen anyone who possesses or even understands Trump's virtues. Nor have I seen anyone with his backbone and fortitude. One does not appreciate the strength of relentless gale-force winds until one is in the eye of the storm.
which is exactly where Trump and we are at this moment. We have to prepare for the gale-force winds we will encounter. To not do this is to ignore the lessons of the recent past and it will be forever to our sorrow to ignore them.

His virtue must be the standard by which we judge other candidates.
Amen and amen. We don't have to like his personality but his virtues far outweigh it. I humbly stand corrected and offer my mea culpa.
Many say that Trump should not run in 2024. They a... (show quote)


Here is a link to the video https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Tom+Klingenstein%27s+speech+titled+Trump%27s+virtues.&refig=a0ebc70273d64ad19eb6091dc621ab6a&ru=%2fsearch%3fq%3dTom%2bKlingenstein%2527s%2bspeech%2btitled%2bTrump%2527s%2bvirtues.%26form%3dANNTH1%26refig%3da0ebc70273d64ad19eb6091dc621ab6a&view=detail&mmscn=vwrc&mid=77323BDD0E5F61C8770B77323BDD0E5F61C8770B&FORM=WRVORC

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Aug 5, 2022 15:30:28   #
kemmer
 
Capt-jack wrote:
Many say that Trump should not run in 2024.
Most. Biden either. Trump is a criminal and Biden’s too old.

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Aug 5, 2022 16:36:52   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
permafrost wrote:
Jack, I hope you do not actually agree with this ridiculous article.. It is the absolute most ridiculous I have read trying to justify trump and his attempt..

We need to find some point which will calm down both sides of the now wide open divide in America. And trump is only an infestation to make it worse..




How do you compromise with the wholesale evil the Democratic Party represents as the vector of feticide?

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Aug 5, 2022 16:37:04   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
permafrost wrote:
Jack, I hope you do not actually agree with this ridiculous article.. It is the absolute most ridiculous I have read trying to justify trump and his attempt..

We need to find some point which will calm down both sides of the now wide open divide in America. And trump is only an infestation to make it worse..

Fucking hypocrite. Is this your attempt below at “finding some point which will calm down both sides of the now wide open divide…” You’re nothing but a bipolar disgusting asshat.

“Aug 4, 2022 17:01:35 #
permafrost (topic starter rank #21) (online) Joined: Sep 27, 2013 Posts: 34203 Loc: Minnesota
What a filthy right wing unamerican ass------ liar you are.. not one GD bit of truth in whole lying foul mouth.. you pig.. Only you and trump are fit to be executed just for existing.. I heap good wishes on the ones who do it.. S___ Slim filthy minded Bas-------... Punk and brainless dweeb..”

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Aug 5, 2022 16:48:35   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
How do you compromise with the wholesale evil the Democratic Party represents as the vector of feticide?


I expect you mean fentanyl? That has been around more years then you seem to be aware of.. it was first mentioned back in the 90s that I am aware of.. I paid a bit of attention due to concern for my sons and daughter.. drug problems are among the worst things kids get into in my opinion..

Rather then simply make generalized comments about evil and the Dems try some facts, mention a specific, find a link or at least mention a source..

I do not have a great dead of regard for the ethics of any Politician and need to be shown.. One way or another,, is he bad or partway good?

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Aug 5, 2022 16:52:37   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JR-57 wrote:
Fucking hypocrite. Is this your attempt below at “finding some point which will calm down both sides of the now wide open divide…” You’re nothing but a bipolar disgusting asshat.

“Aug 4, 2022 17:01:35 #
permafrost (topic starter rank #21) (online) Joined: Sep 27, 2013 Posts: 34203 Loc: Minnesota
What a filthy right wing unamerican ass------ liar you are.. not one GD bit of truth in whole lying foul mouth.. you pig.. Only you and trump are fit to be executed just for existing.. I heap good wishes on the ones who do it.. S___ Slim filthy minded Bas-------... Punk and brainless dweeb..”
Fucking hypocrite. Is this your attempt below at “... (show quote)


NO, that is simply my opinion toward one poster on OPP.. but yesterday is history.. today is new.. why let it keep bothering you? that is only for a nowhere man.. Remember, yesterday is history and yesterday is gone.. look at today and the bright sunshiny day.. People have said these things and they are not bad advice..

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Aug 5, 2022 17:16:56   #
okie don
 
permafrost wrote:
NO, that is simply my opinion toward one poster on OPP.. but yesterday is history.. today is new.. why let it keep bothering you? that is only for a nowhere man.. Remember, yesterday is history and yesterday is gone.. look at today and the bright sunshiny day.. People have said these things and they are not bad advice..


I quietly wait for someone on OPP to tell us all one good thing Joseph Robinette Biden has done for our homeland.
Q. Is giving Ukcraine 80 million bucks helpful?🤔

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Aug 5, 2022 17:38:13   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
okie don wrote:
I quietly wait for someone on OPP to tell us all one good thing Joseph Robinette Biden has done for our homeland.
Q. Is giving Ukcraine 80 million bucks helpful?🤔


You have to look no further then the infrastructure bill. Held back for years and getting nothing started, now we shall see if government works when given the chance..

While giving aid to Ukraine is risky and nerve wracking.. it matches our stand over the last near 70 years. so Yes, we should keep our position or make a radical change and announce that to the world..

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Aug 5, 2022 19:34:18   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
How do you compromise with the wholesale evil the Democratic Party represents as the vector of feticide?


Oh give it a break.
None of those women you refer to are murderers . This is your own twisted imagination. Do you also ride a big
White Horse while on your quest to save the fetuses????
And , what’s in it for you , no really ,
What’s in it for you ?????
Do you believe for some reason you’re standing on higher ground ?
Are more pious ?
What’s in it for you ??
Really . Do you wear a Big White Hat in your imaginary quest ???

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Aug 5, 2022 19:37:20   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
okie don wrote:
I quietly wait for someone on OPP to tell us all one good thing Joseph Robinette Biden has done for our homeland.
Q. Is giving Ukcraine 80 million bucks helpful?🤔


What for ?
You’re unable to hear it anyway.
Giving Ukraine $80 Million has nothing to do with influencing your life , except of course for your idle chatter.

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Aug 5, 2022 19:42:40   #
Elwood Loc: Florida
 
Capt-jack wrote:
Many say that Trump should not run in 2024. They are wrong. I allowed my distaste for Trump's personality to override his virtues, which are considerable. Some people want Trump without his vices. I was among them -- until yesterday when I watched and listened to Tom Klingenstein's speech titled Trump's virtues. It was masterful and shamed me that I did not make the distinction between Trump's character and his virtues, the former being deeply flawed, the latter being almost perfect. They need to man up in my defense of the former President's virtues. The speech was among the most pointed I have heard and deserves some exposure. Klingenstein says:
Other Republicans say some version of I like Trump policies but I don't like the rest of him. This gets it almost backward. Although Trump advanced many important policies, it is the 'rest of him' that contains the virtue that inspires the movement Trump was born for the current crisis, a life and death struggle against a totalitarian enemy I call woke communism... that controls all the cultural and economic powers in America.

Trump revealed, not caused, the divide in this country. In war, you must make a stand Trump is a manly man... traditional manhood, even when flawed, is absolutely essential Trump plays to win... There are no clean hands in a fistfight Trump is unreservedly, unquestionably pro-America Trump is a refreshing break from the guilt and self-loathing that marks our age.

It is anti-Americanism that makes so many of us very angry: The Left has trashed America's Founding and her history to the point where some believe it virtuous to hate America. Rather than advocating forgiveness for sins, the Left is advocating hair shirts, self-flagellation, and perpetual guilt. It is un-American and certainly un-Christian.

Trump thinks we can vanquish all comers if we just put our minds to it, and he's right. Courage never demands perfection. Trump over and over said exactly what political correctness prohibits one from saying... Trump said Haiti is a shithole and that representative Maxine Waters has a low IQ. These were not racist lies. They were uncouth, politically incorrect observations that most of us would agree with but would not dare say.

In 2016, we loved Trump for his outspokenness. But many seem to have changed their minds without cause; Trump is the same today as he was before he was elected. The very things we disdain today are the things that made him the man of our time.

From morning to night, we were told that Trump is a racist. But endless repetition does not make it true. It isn't. Trump's contempt for political correctness showed patriotic Americans that its ever-tightening grip could be loosened... It is difficult to overestimate the significance of Trump's fight against political correctness, a fight in which most Republicans are reluctant to engage. Trump treated the woke media with the same contempt he treated political correctness, provoking their outrage and revealing their utter corruption... it must be defeated.

I take back my unwillingness to engage Trump on his own terms. It is the Left, not we, who are politically correct. They are the ones restricting speech, canceling, and censoring, not we on the Right.

Unlike most politicians, when Trump sees a problem, he goes out and fixes it. He fixed our porous borders. He moved our Israeli embassy to Jerusalem after decades of inaction. He eliminated hate-America critical race theory in his administrative agency. He developed a vaccine in record time. He achieved energy independence and much, much more.

His accomplishments far outweigh his personality quirks. No other president did so much in so little time.

Trump smoked rats out of hiding places. Because of Trump, we know our intelligence agencies are corrupt. We know also that the mainstream media is not just biased, that it is the propaganda arm of the Democratic party.

If not for the vehement and irrational hatred of Trump, we never would have discovered that our own security and intelligence structures are compromised. I blame the NeverTrumpers for corrupting these Agencies. This unprecedented breach of the very security of this nation is unprecedented and deeply dangerous, leaving us open to the espionage of courtesans who prey on politicians who think with their private parts.

A large part of Trump's appeal was that he was a bona fide outsider. He distrusted the experts who believe they knew better than the average American how to run the country. This distrust was appealing to Trump's base who believed, and with good reason, that is the experts who created the despotic mess in which we find ourselves.

We always knew but never had anyone champion that we, not the Swamp, knew better how to manage our money, our time, our personal lives, our resources, and our families. In their authoritarian mindsets, the Left wanted to take over all these very personal, uniquely American functions and replace them with governmental overreach. They nearly got their wish, had it not been for COVID's home zoom classes where we found out that very young children are being sexualized, perverted, deliberately alienated from their parents, and taught to hate America and white people.

They know that Republicans will lose all further elections until they get to the bottom of the last one.

This most sensitive area of politics is a disaster. I believe the election was stolen and millions of others do. We now have evidence from many quarters that this is so. It cannot be permitted a repeat or there will be severe repercussions that will dwarf the current ones.

Some will say that Trump is a bad man and that disqualifies him. I do not think Trump is a bad man, but for those who do, I remind them that a bad man in some circumstances can be a good president. If you are dying of thirst and there is only one person offering you water, you accept the water gratefully without much concern for the character of your rescuer.

We wanted Trump not only to fix things; we wanted him to be perfect while doing it. That is unrealistic in the average family, the average relationship, the average business, and the average political or cultural milieu. Yet some of us wanted Trump to be perfect enough to invite them to tea. He is not that man. But he is the man for our tumultuous times.

This enumeration of Trump's virtues does not fully capture his uncommon courage and firmness of purpose. Trump is the most towering political figure in living memory Trump inspired a movement. If properly deployed this movement might challenge the woke-comms, and God willing, save the country.

These very things are what the Left hate, yet it is not their favor we need to care about. They will not embrace anyone on the Republican ticket and certainly not one they cannot bully. We need to stop worrying about the acceptance of our candidates by the Left or they will have won.

Republicans, however, should not forget that it is his support and the spirit they embrace that has become the life force of the Republican party. Among the talked-about alternatives to Trump, I have not yet seen anyone who possesses or even understands Trump's virtues. Nor have I seen anyone with his backbone and fortitude. One does not appreciate the strength of relentless gale-force winds until one is in the eye of the storm.
which is exactly where Trump and we are at this moment. We have to prepare for the gale-force winds we will encounter. To not do this is to ignore the lessons of the recent past and it will be forever to our sorrow to ignore them.

His virtue must be the standard by which we judge other candidates.
Amen and amen. We don't have to like his personality but his virtues far outweigh it. I humbly stand corrected and offer my mea culpa.
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Amen 'bro!

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