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What do you consider is the number one reason the United States is so divided?
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Aug 6, 2022 20:58:02   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
goch1 wrote:
A lot of lengthy long explanations of our d******e country now! A simple answer could just be different ideas about what is morally right and what is morally wrong


If everyone followed the Ten Commandments, there would be no need for governments. But the secular left doesn't believe in God, The Bible, or The Constitution of the United States, and has trouble seeing what is morally right.

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Aug 6, 2022 20:59:33   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
db wrote:
I'm never really sure what brings you to these statements but it is not from learning both sides and coming to a reasonable conclusion. You tend to make pronouncements with only 1/3 of the information.


Who are you referring to?

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Aug 6, 2022 21:05:07   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
pegw wrote:
I think the division of Americans statred when Clinton got rid of media companies having to show both sides of an issue. Now everyone is in their own worlds, with the Fox news people on one side and the Mainstream media on the other.


The media has always been one-sided. 200 years ago every town had its own hometown paper that was liberal or conservative, but seldom both. There was a very brief period in the 20th century in which journalists tried to present fairness and balance from both sides but that lasted for a very short time, mostly on the airwaves. The print media, for the most part, has always been one side or the other.

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Aug 7, 2022 05:03:10   #
fullspinzoo
 
padremike wrote:
I'm a bit more basic inasmuch as I understand the divisions to be spiritual & probably unfixable especially if the Left wins & Conservatives are quashed. Allow me explain. The America I was born into in 1940 found the morals, values & faith in our homes were basically the same
ones found in our neighbor's home, taught in our schools, churches, our town, state & nation. They were traditional nation wide. The GOP & Democrats argued & fought over political issues yet were able to come to equitable compromises because neither side was called on to compromise those traditional American morals, values or faith. Enter Marxism into the Democratic Party and their new raison d'état, the C*******t Manifesto, demanded for them to intentionally destroy traditional morals, values, faith & love of country. They have been wildly successful in those goals. These neo-Marxist Progressives have turned evil into virtue and convinced their ardent followers they are a benevolent organization concerned with the state of mankind and to fulfill all his needs. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs." Marxist do have a reputation to treat all people equal, rotten is their idea of e******y! They have raised multiple American generation to deny God, h**e America & pursue every form of illicit & unnatural sexual pleasures. They've destroyed the sanctity of life, traditional marriage & the nuclear family; they promote lawlessness and they scoff & ridicule anyone objecting to their "new morality."

America can wade thru politics; we cannot abolish traditional American morals, values, faith, love of country (nationaslism) & survive.
I'm a bit more basic inasmuch as I understand the ... (show quote)


My Mom was a born again Christian, and was always proclaiming the "end times were right around the corner" . Of course, she lived to be 100 and obviously we never saw her proclamation. Yeah, things have changed since the days of Ozzie and Harriet, and not exactly for the better. Much of our division comes from the fact that obama set in mothion this Socialist/Marxist/C*******t culture with his pronouncement of a "fundamental t***sformation" of this country and many on the left took the ball and is running with it....including Slo Joe. It upsets somewhat that the Church doesn't clamp down on his "cafeteria Catholic" type of practice. These elitist even like Pelosi love to play by their own rules. It's strange have some friends who are "leftys". If I bring up spirituality in any shape or form, I get a dirty look. Anyway, really good to see "YOU ARE BACK" don't let the admin vacays get your dander up. I've had about 120 days over a 10 year period. I've learned to take them with q grain of salt. Oh and BTW, OPP is not the best solution for close WALK with the Lord. Hope you're smirking a little. Lasly, I'm a Mike, my roommate is a Mike. Great name.

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Aug 7, 2022 07:25:35   #
Big Kahuna
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
My Mom was a born again Christian, and was always proclaiming the "end times were right around the corner" . Of course, she lived to be 100 and obviously we never saw her proclamation. Yeah, things have changed since the days of Ozzie and Harriet, and not exactly for the better. Much of our division comes from the fact that obama set in mothion this Socialist/Marxist/C*******t culture with his pronouncement of a "fundamental t***sformation" of this country and many on the left took the ball and is running with it....including Slo Joe. It upsets somewhat that the Church doesn't clamp down on his "cafeteria Catholic" type of practice. These elitist even like Pelosi love to play by their own rules. It's strange have some friends who are "leftys". If I bring up spirituality in any shape or form, I get a dirty look. Anyway, really good to see "YOU ARE BACK" don't let the admin vacays get your dander up. I've had about 120 days over a 10 year period. I've learned to take them with q grain of salt. Oh and BTW, OPP is not the best solution for close WALK with the Lord. Hope you're smirking a little. Lasly, I'm a Mike, my roommate is a Mike. Great name.
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Yes, the l*****ts have, "f"d up our country royally. They have perverted everything from education, the arts, the military, music, religion,cinema and now even our young kids. Anyone calling themselves a Demorat is in my opinion a subversive and i**********nist who lacks moral values and wisdom.

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Aug 7, 2022 07:33:48   #
fullspinzoo
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
Yes, the l*****ts have, "f"d up our country royally. They have perverted everything from education, the arts, the military, music, religion,cinema and now even our young kids. Anyone calling themselves a Demorat is in my opinion a subversive and i**********nist who lacks moral values and wisdom.


Perfectly said!

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Aug 7, 2022 07:45:29   #
Big Kahuna
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
Perfectly said!



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Aug 7, 2022 08:06:16   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
RascalRiley wrote:
It is the Republicans that want to change the Constitution.

19 GOP-controlled states, including four in 2022 alone (Nebraska, South Carolina, West Virginia, and Wisconsin), have passed applications and calls for a constitutional convention

https://www.businessinsider.com/constitutional-convention-conservatives-republicans-constitution-supreme-court-2022-7?op=1

“We the People” are three simple words you do not understand, let alone the entirety of our Constitution and the intent of our Founders. Clean up your own backyard.

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Aug 7, 2022 08:11:50   #
fullspinzoo
 
JR-57 wrote:
“We the People” are three simple words you do not understand, let alone the entirety of our Constitution and the intent of our Founders. Clean up your own backyard.

Ditto. Trump's motto "we the people", this is your country". And he sincerely meant it. What other President has ever shown so much respect for the American e*****rate to call it "America's country"?? He was a GREAT President and most of America understands that. "Promises made, promises kept" and nobody can refute that.

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Aug 7, 2022 08:12:38   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
pegw wrote:
I think the division of Americans statred when Clinton got rid of media companies having to show both sides of an issue. Now everyone is in their own worlds, with the Fox news people on one side and the Mainstream media on the other.

You’re sadly mistaken by the limited extent of your historical knowledge. Media bias existed from the start. Bone up on early press publications throughout our country’s history. What we see today is nothing new. Just far more of it and continuously due to current technology.

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Aug 7, 2022 11:59:24   #
pegw
 
[quote=dtucker300]If everyone followed the Ten Commandments, there would be no need for governments. But the secular left doesn't believe in God, The Bible, or The Constitution of the United States, and has trouble seeing what is morally right.[/quo
You should note that Biden is the most religious president since Carter, who is also on the left. I feel that Democrats are just as religious as Republicans, just not as big hipocricats. The holly than thou Republicans who refuse to believe in decent social programs, like Medicare drive me nuts.

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Aug 7, 2022 12:01:30   #
pegw
 
JR-57 wrote:
You’re sadly mistaken by the limited extent of your historical knowledge. Media bias existed from the start. Bone up on early press publications throughout our country’s history. What we see today is nothing new. Just far more of it and continuously due to current technology.


Sorry, I was there when the networks had to give both sides
Please don't gaslight me.

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Aug 7, 2022 12:17:06   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
pegw wrote:
Sorry, I was there when the networks had to give both sides
Please don't gaslight me.

I’m not gaslighting you. Checkout the political articles from the 1700s and 1800s. It’s been biased since day one.

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Aug 7, 2022 12:18:33   #
fullspinzoo
 
[quote=pegw][quote=dtucker300]If everyone followed the Ten Commandments, there would be no need for governments. But the secular left doesn't believe in God, The Bible, or The Constitution of the United States, and has trouble seeing what is morally right.[/quo
You should note that Biden is the most religious president since Carter, who is also on the left. I feel that Democrats are just as religious as Republicans, just not as big hipocricftats. The holly than thou Republicans who refuse to believe in decent social programs, like Medicare drive me nuts.[/quote]
"Biden is the most religious Prez". You are insane. Biden is a cafeteria Catholic who follows only the tenets of the Church he enjoys, not like a******n, gay rights, the t*********r movement, moral issues that he and his base condemn. You're looking foolish again with your asinine claims. If he's an example of how devout Catholics should act, what a sad commentary. Pelosi is another joke. Might as well be a membsr of the Muslim faith.

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Aug 7, 2022 12:25:01   #
Big Kahuna
 
pegw wrote:
Sorry, I was there when the networks had to give both sides
Please don't gaslight me.


Where were you? Be specific.

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