Yes, Kansas v**es to keep a******n rights, but....
CarryOn wrote:
Yes, I totally agree it is a manufactured issue promoted by liars. The original intent was for a******n to be legalized for the reasons you list, and it was intended to be rare, which fits with the 1% you quote. Unfortunately, that is not the way it turned out. Also, unfortunately, it is still legal in most states, although some will now be able to put reasonable limitations on it--such as a 15-week limit, which should be acceptable to the baby k**lers. But no, the pro-a******nists cannot accept that. They want NO limitations--or else! They mounted a huge campaign in KS, ads filled with lies, as Turtle keeper mentioned, in order to get their way. Look for that to continue from state to state.
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Just remember who has burned the clinics and k**led the doctors.
Tiptop789 wrote:
It's fair because not everyone gets an ablution for convenience. There are probably many reasons women choose this route and none of them are easy. I would agree you have the right to choose for you, not for someone else. We'll never ever agree on this issue, but that just the way it is.
I just read an article about how many young people decide early in life that they do not want to have children. The author claims a large number of these people indeed did not have children. That’s good BUT did these people use a******n as birth control? Of course the article didn’t cover that fact. Maybe we should offer permanent birth control for these people free of charge. What do you think?
I know that we will never agree on this until you realize that k*****g babies is not an answer. However that will never happen until you discharge The Devil from your heart. Even as deeply imbedded in your heart and soul he is you can still do it.
Turtle keeper wrote:
However that will never happen until you discharge The Devil from your heart.
Pro choicers don’t care about your religious views, they have their own. Just keep them out of the a******n discussions.
I have to agree with you Baby k**lers are of the Devil and most worship him. The ones that go to Gods church are only lying to themselves and there peers.
Tiptop789 wrote:
Just remember who has burned the clinics and k**led the doctors.
Just remember there has been violence on both sides of the issue, and violence and/or threats of violence are never the answer. Whether it is in the form of burning a******n clinics or property damage and arson at pro-life clinics ... or a U.S. Senator standing on the steps of the Supreme Court building issuing threats and calling out specific Justices to target, or a pro-a******nist zealot driving all the way from CA to Maryland fully prepared and equipped to kidnap and k**l Justice Kavanaugh after the Justices were doxxed by other pro-a******nist zealots. There are--and always will be--extremists on both sides of controversial issues who will choose to commit, or attempt to commit, violence when they can't win the argument otherwise.
Pro-lifers worked for decades, legally, through the courts and through legislation, to get what they considered a wrong-minded decision overturned and send the decision back to the states and into the hands of the people of each state where it belongs. NOT for wealthy donors in large coastal cities and pro-a******n advocates in DC and elsewhere OUTSIDE those states to move from state to state using their money and power to influence v**ers, with lies and misinformation, to v**e their way until every state in the union goes along with them. This is what happened in KS. Putting it in the hands of the people of the state and then basically taking it out of their hands by flooding the airwaves, the internet, and every other method they can think of to drown out the voices of the citizens in that state is pretty much what happened. And this should be a hard lesson for citizens in other more conservative states to prepare for in coming e******ns.
CarryOn wrote:
Just remember there has been violence on both sides of the issue, and violence and/or threats of violence are never the answer. Whether it is in the form of burning a******n clinics or property damage and arson at pro-life clinics ... or a U.S. Senator standing on the steps of the Supreme Court building issuing threats and calling out specific Justices to target, or a pro-a******nist zealot driving all the way from CA to Maryland fully prepared and equipped to kidnap and k**l Justice Kavanaugh after the Justices were doxxed by other pro-a******nist zealots. There are--and always will be--extremists on both sides of controversial issues who will choose to commit, or attempt to commit, violence when they can't win the argument otherwise.
Pro-lifers worked for decades, legally, through the courts and through legislation, to get what they considered a wrong-minded decision overturned and send the decision back to the states and into the hands of the people of each state where it belongs. NOT for wealthy donors in large coastal cities and pro-a******n advocates in DC and elsewhere OUTSIDE those states to move from state to state using their money and power to influence v**ers, with lies and misinformation, to v**e their way until every state in the union goes along with them. This is what happened in KS. Putting it in the hands of the people of the state and then basically taking it out of their hands by flooding the airwaves, the internet, and every other method they can think of to drown out the voices of the citizens in that state is pretty much what happened. And this should be a hard lesson for citizens in other more conservative states to prepare for in coming e******ns.
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As far as Kansas you are correct. I received many mailers with my name on them from Oakland California. I also received many phone calls. They were flooding the airwaves and USPS with lies and fear mongering. If a person didn’t READ the preposed change and only listened to the baby k**lers lies they believed they were v****g to Band all A******n. A total lie. But I admit it worked. Kansas will now become the baby k*****g capital of the country.
Turtle keeper wrote:
As far as Kansas you are correct. I received many mailers with my name on them from Oakland California. I also received many phone calls. They were flooding the airwaves and USPS with lies and fear mongering. If a person didn’t READ the preposed change and only listened to the baby k**lers lies they believed they were v****g to Band all A******n. A total lie. But I admit it worked. Kansas will now become the baby k*****g capital of the country.
I live on the north edge of Kansas City in MO, not far from Leavenworth, KS. But because we "share" airspace with you across state lines, we got a lot of those misleading ads on TV. It was obvious there was A LOT of money behind this aggressive campaign. The pro-a******nist groups were prepared, well funded, well organized, and ready to pounce immediately. Very sad how that works. The claims that the "v**ers of KS have spoken" are misleading at best. I do not believe the majority of Kansans want this. I wish you luck in fighting it. I suspect we will have similar issues in MO at some point.
CarryOn wrote:
I live on the north edge of Kansas City in MO, not far from Leavenworth, KS. But because we "share" airspace with you across state lines, we got a lot of those misleading ads on TV. It was obvious there was A LOT of money behind this aggressive campaign. The pro-a******nist groups were prepared, well funded, well organized, and ready to pounce immediately. Very sad how that works. The claims that the "v**ers of KS have spoken" are misleading at best. I do not believe the majority of Kansans want this. I wish you luck in fighting it. I suspect we will have similar issues in MO at some point.
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You will if you don’t get the St Louis Democrat/Socialist and the KC Area Democrat/Socialist out of local government. I don’t watch St Louis much but the Mayor of KC just reeks of a want-to-be a dictator. He wants to be in control of the KCMO Police Department so bad, if that happens he will assume that they are his private army.
Turtle keeper wrote:
I just read an article about how many young people decide early in life that they do not want to have children. The author claims a large number of these people indeed did not have children. That’s good BUT did these people use a******n as birth control? Of course the article didn’t cover that fact. Maybe we should offer permanent birth control for these people free of charge. What do you think?
I know that we will never agree on this until you realize that k*****g babies is not an answer. However that will never happen until you discharge The Devil from your heart. Even as deeply imbedded in your heart and soul he is you can still do it.
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I agree. Offer sterilization if they don't want children. I saw one interchange between a pro-a******nist who was protesting the overturning of Roe and a reporter where the protester made the comment that if she got pregnant she could die. Well, there's an easy remedy for that one. It was such a stupid comment, I couldn't believe it.
But you are absolutely correct in that there will never be agreement on this matter because they refuse to see it for what it is. And, now that it has become such a hot button issue, it is being used as a political tool of sorts, to set up another "us against them" situation and divide us even further instead of sitting down and having a reasonable discussion on how to go about some sort of compromise. It is more of a political game where it is all about winning on the issue and not about the issue itself and what it really means.
Turtle keeper wrote:
You will if you don’t get the St Louis Democrat/Socialist and the KC Area Democrat/Socialist out of local government. I don’t watch St Louis much but the Mayor of KC just reeks of a want-to-be a dictator. He wants to be in control of the KCMO Police Department so bad, if that happens he will assume that they are his private army.
You are correct. In almost every e******n, the map of v****g results of the entire state is red, except for the big blue area around St. Louis, the big blue area around KC, and the small blue area around Columbia. But those areas represent a big percentage of the population, so participation of rural MO is very important. In that respect, it's a lot like the eastern counties in KS that have taken over from the much larger rural areas. You are absolutely right in that Mayor Lucas needs to go. And, yes, we do need to get these dems/socialists out of the local government, but with the cities being mostly blue, it is almost impossible to do. They've been blue for so long and, even though we have a lot more crime now and lucas hasn't done much to improve the city, chances are they will still v**e for him just because he is a democrat.
I don't know when any kind of a******n issue will be put on the b****t, but when it happens I will be doing what I can to work against it.
Turtle keeper wrote:
As far as Kansas you are correct. I received many mailers with my name on them from Oakland California. I also received many phone calls. They were flooding the airwaves and USPS with lies and fear mongering. If a person didn’t READ the preposed change and only listened to the baby k**lers lies they believed they were v****g to Band all A******n. A total lie. But I admit it worked. Kansas will now become the baby k*****g capital of the country.
Since a******n is legal in many states and will remain so, why do you say Kansas is the"baby k*****g capital of the country"?
Tiptop789 wrote:
Since a******n is legal in many states and will remain so, why do you say Kansas is the"baby k*****g capital of the country"?
The states around us except CO has restricted
A******n and I believe KS has no restrictions. I will look it up soon to make sure I’m right
CarryOn wrote:
Yes, I totally agree it is a manufactured issue promoted by liars. The original intent was for a******n to be legalized for the reasons you list, and it was intended to be rare, which fits with the 1% you quote. Unfortunately, that is not the way it turned out. Also, unfortunately, it is still legal in most states, although some will now be able to put reasonable limitations on it--such as a 15-week limit, which should be acceptable to the baby k**lers. But no, the pro-a******nists cannot accept that. They want NO limitations--or else! They mounted a huge campaign in KS, ads filled with lies, as Turtle keeper mentioned, in order to get their way. Look for that to continue from state to state.
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Do you remember when the New York Democrat/C*******ts in 2019 were able to pass the "Reproductive Act"? It legalized a******n all the way up to birth, for any reason...the Democrat/C*******ts gave the legislation a STANDING OVATION. It is obvious (for at least the New York Democrat/C*******ts, and most likely, (if what they say means anything?) ALL the rest of the Democrat/C*******t Party is on the same page.) They GLORIFY a******n/are thrilled/celebrate the ability to end the life of a fully developed/ready to be born baby boy/girl. The power of life/death...the ultimate power. Power corrupt/ultimate power corrupts ultimately
Turtle keeper wrote:
The states around us except CO has restricted
A******n and I believe KS has no restrictions. I will look it up soon to make sure I’m right
I was incorrect Kansas is restricted to 22 weeks and post viability. There is no restrictions as for the reason for the a******n.
Government money ie tax payers money is not allowed to be used. Minors have a litany of restrictions (as it should be) for a******n. Parents approval is one of them. Again the “privacy clause” of the KS constitution is the justification for a******n. The KS Supreme Court is a liberal court.
Missouri is a little more restricted I will look there laws up and add them later
WOW. Missouri’s “Trigger Law” pretty much prohibited any a******n. The woman is not held legally responsible however the person that facilitated the a******n is. If you’re interested look it up. So I’m thinking the woman on the western side of Missouri will be coming to Kansas and the East side will go to Illinois. Missouri is trying to restrict travel out of state for the purpose of a******n. I don’t believe that will happen.
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