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Defend Taiwan or not?
Aug 3, 2022 10:25:37   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/08/patrick-j-buchanan/is-taiwans-independence-worth-war/
This is one of the arguments.
What do you think?

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Aug 3, 2022 10:32:22   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
I personally think it’s time to quit being the playground sergeant of arms. We should offer a lifestyle for the world and not force feed it to them.
After all, God is not a respecter of men.

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Aug 3, 2022 11:19:56   #
Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/08/patrick-j-buchanan/is-taiwans-independence-worth-war/
This is one of the arguments.
What do you think?


The USA is not capable of defending Taiwan from China.
Especially under present leadership

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Aug 3, 2022 11:35:50   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Sonny Magoo wrote:
The USA is not capable of defending Taiwan from China.
Especially under present leadership


Yep it’d be like your right hand fighting your left hand.
Same team!!

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Aug 3, 2022 11:38:20   #
CarryOn
 
Sonny Magoo wrote:
The USA is not capable of defending Taiwan from China.
Especially under present leadership


Sad but true. Probably why basement dweller slojoe "still" has covid ...

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Aug 3, 2022 12:52:54   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/08/patrick-j-buchanan/is-taiwans-independence-worth-war/
This is one of the arguments.
What do you think?



I think this goes deeper.
China has removed all (All) red tape in development and the building of military hardware, Ships, Air and strategic defense weapons.
They can replace an aircraft carrier in less than a tenth of the time it takes America, because how our funds nearly grind to a halt "Red tape"
China's Military force is not equal to America's but rather far exceeds. China has been developing and building America's, Russias technology (received through spies and traitors) for decades. There military equipment should not be confused with their cheap dime store trinkets we buy at Walmart.
30 years ago China was able to field an army of one million soldiers (1,000,000) , today the number exceeds 2 million and can have millions more suited up for war, fully equipped in a matter of a few months.
China can resupply fuel, munitions, food, medical immediately, America must send the same from bases in many cases thousands of miles distance.
America since 2008 to present had dismissed our most seasoned, smartest and gifted Generals, Admirals and the like do to politically driven imbeciles (Administrators) , as well as many other seasoned military over politically driven vaccines.

I do not believe we have a fighting chance in the event China released a full force attack.

The otherside,
If America does nothing, then Japan, Philippines would be next by either war or surrender. Russia is likely to take advantage if America does enter a conflict, knowing America would be spread to thin and begin invading more countries . Keeping in mind, Russia has gone into the Ukraine conflict thus far using their C-Team and very little of their advanced technological weapons. Had Russia gone in full force, this event would have ended with far greater loss of life, bit also ended if not in days then a few weeks at best.

Anyone else hear the Horses hooves approaching?
Gog-Magog?
Ezekiel 37,38?
I believe had the "Doomsday Clock " been set for "The End Of The Church Age", it would be set at one second to midnight.

I believe America is in that proverbial, dammed if you do, dammed if you don't.

Consider also with or without America's involvement, we lose our valuable chip resource. Automobile manufacturers will halt, Tractors will halt, cell phones, This, Military equipment, hot water tanks, Washing machines, Dryers and everything electronic due to over 90% of our Chios come from Taiwan.
Then what about the over 4 trillion in trade that passes through the China sea....halted, what about America's dependence on China's goods and services, medication, Steel, foods and hundreds of other essential supplies.
The point, America would go into full collapse beginning in just days.

We are past the argument of "But if Trump were in office" or "Because Biden is president " kinda pointless arguments.

Back to my many months of warnings a pre-election event will be orchestrated to keep leftist in power over the three branches of Government. The question becomes, is this it? Seems to me this Administration has closed off any possibility of meaningful talks with China but in fact taken steps to ensure they cannot.

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Aug 3, 2022 13:27:31   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
I think this goes deeper.
China has removed all (All) red tape in development and the building of military hardware, Ships, Air and strategic defense weapons.
They can replace an aircraft carrier in less than a tenth of the time it takes America, because how our funds nearly grind to a halt "Red tape"
China's Military force is not equal to America's but rather far exceeds. China has been developing and building America's, Russias technology (received through spies and traitors) for decades. There military equipment should not be confused with their cheap dime store trinkets we buy at Walmart.
30 years ago China was able to field an army of one million soldiers (1,000,000) , today the number exceeds 2 million and can have millions more suited up for war, fully equipped in a matter of a few months.
China can resupply fuel, munitions, food, medical immediately, America must send the same from bases in many cases thousands of miles distance.
America since 2008 to present had dismissed our most seasoned, smartest and gifted Generals, Admirals and the like do to politically driven imbeciles (Administrators) , as well as many other seasoned military over politically driven vaccines.

I do not believe we have a fighting chance in the event China released a full force attack.

The otherside,
If America does nothing, then Japan, Philippines would be next by either war or surrender. Russia is likely to take advantage if America does enter a conflict, knowing America would be spread to thin and begin invading more countries . Keeping in mind, Russia has gone into the Ukraine conflict thus far using their C-Team and very little of their advanced technological weapons. Had Russia gone in full force, this event would have ended with far greater loss of life, bit also ended if not in days then a few weeks at best.

Anyone else hear the Horses hooves approaching?
Gog-Magog?
Ezekiel 37,38?
I believe had the "Doomsday Clock " been set for "The End Of The Church Age", it would be set at one second to midnight.

I believe America is in that proverbial, dammed if you do, dammed if you don't.

Consider also with or without America's involvement, we lose our valuable chip resource. Automobile manufacturers will halt, Tractors will halt, cell phones, This, Military equipment, hot water tanks, Washing machines, Dryers and everything electronic due to over 90% of our Chios come from Taiwan.
Then what about the over 4 trillion in trade that passes through the China sea....halted, what about America's dependence on China's goods and services, medication, Steel, foods and hundreds of other essential supplies.
The point, America would go into full collapse beginning in just days.

We are past the argument of "But if Trump were in office" or "Because Biden is president " kinda pointless arguments.

Back to my many months of warnings a pre-election event will be orchestrated to keep leftist in power over the three branches of Government. The question becomes, is this it? Seems to me this Administration has closed off any possibility of meaningful talks with China but in fact taken steps to ensure they cannot.
I think this goes deeper. br China has removed al... (show quote)

There’s no reason why we should not expect the end of the age soon. Very soon!

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Aug 4, 2022 13:54:17   #
F.D.R.
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/08/patrick-j-buchanan/is-taiwans-independence-worth-war/
This is one of the arguments.
What do you think?


It pains me to say this but Buchanan's assessment is correct and it's our fault. We've created this monster with our greed and short sightedness. We've sent China our technology and manufacturing knowhow and they used it against us. There would be no 'winning' a war with China since we'd also be destroyed in the process. However, it wouldn't take a war to destroy today's USA. All someone would have to do is to cause an extended disruption with our electric grid and American's would become suicidal within a week. Who could live without a cell phone, cable TV or a refrigerator? We've brought this on ourselves. It's time to get back to basics and bring back manufacturing and taking care of ourselves and let the rest of the world take care of their own. Let's face it we have no real friends on this planet. Western Europe will be controlled by Muslims in about 50 years if things keep going they way they are so why are we protecting them from Russia?

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